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Serious Crime Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 28 October 2014, in the House of Lords.
Lords report stage second day. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 50).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
756 cc1069-1170 
Session
2014-15
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Serious Crime Bill (HL) 2014-15. As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 15 July 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2014-1456
Monday, 10 November 2014
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Walmsley | 756 c1069 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Walmsley

43: After Clause 65, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Walmsley | 756 cc1069-1072 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we discussed this matter in Committee in July. Amendment 43 provides for a legal duty o...


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Bishop of Durham | 756 cc1071-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I once again support the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley. Indeed, since ...

Baroness Brinton | 756 cc1074-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I was chair of education in Cambridgeshire some 20 years ago, it was brought home ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 756 cc1076-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to the amendment and support it strongly. Current child protection s...

Baroness Benjamin | 756 c1078 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend Lady Walmsley on highlighting and pursuing this issue. I...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 756 cc1078-1080 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fear that I may be a lone voice in that I take a slightly different view from my coll...

Lord Rosser | 756 cc1080-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I gather from what has already been said by the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, that an ...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1082-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Walmsley for again bringing this important matter to the H...

Baroness Walmsley | 756 cc1083-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister for what he has just said. I know that it...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c1085 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Smith of Basildon

44: After Clause 65, insert the following new Cla...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc1085-1090 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 44, I shall also speak to Amendment 44A. I thank those who have co-...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 756 cc1089-1091 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise only because of my experience in piloting through the Forced Marriage (Civil Pro...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c1091 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to ask the noble Lord’s advice on this, because he referred, as I did, to the forced...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 756 c1091 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very good question, but I cannot really answer it. My reading of government Amendment 4...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 756 cc1091-2 (Link to this contribution)

I shall pick up that point. It is perfectly obvious to me as a former president of the Family Div...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 756 cc1092-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with the noble and learned Baroness. In doing so, I ask the Minister ...

Bishop of Rochester | 756 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate slightly, as a male religious leader, to speak in your Lordships’ debate on ...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 cc1093-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not need to reiterate the feelings of abhorrence at the practice of FGM and the en...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 cc1095-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have spoken in this debate—in particular to the noble ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 756 c1099 (Link to this contribution)

Everything that the Minister has said is music to my ears, and I congratulate her and the Governm...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 c1099 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for bringing up that point. In actual fact, Scotland has very strong prov...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 756 c1099 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, I said not only Scotland but any other country. Scotland sounds as though it is fine. But ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 c1099 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to my noble friend. I am sure that if other countries or jurisdictions want to take o...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc1099-1100 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness. She need not apologise for having been on her feet...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 c1100 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, and I think there is a further conversation to be had, perhaps outsid...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c1100 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for that, because we just want to get it right. On the basis ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c1100 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful. On both those issues, therefore, we would be happy not to press our amen...

Baroness Meacher | 756 cc1100-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Meacher

45A: After Clause 66, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Meacher | 756 cc1101-2 (Link to this contribution)

Following legal advice, I amended Amendment 45, and it has now become Amendment 45A. The aim of t...

Baroness Tonge | 756 c1102 (Link to this contribution)

I have gone into this in great detail since 2003, when the all-party group that I chair held hear...

Baroness Meacher | 756 cc1102-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her intervention. I completely agree: this is not exclusi...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 756 c1103 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intended to put my name to this amendment, which I support. It seems to me that it is...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, towards the end of her speech, the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, referred to what was t...

Lord Dobbs | 756 cc1104-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am filled with some trepidation and hope the House will indulge me. I have not involv...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 c1105 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not mean for a moment to embarrass the noble Lord, but I wonder whether he is spea...

Lord Dobbs | 756 c1105 (Link to this contribution)

The new clause in Amendment 45A is headed:

“Offence of encouraging or assisting with the pr...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 c1105 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had gone straight to the text of it. Those words were in the text of the previous ame...

Lord Dobbs | 756 c1105 (Link to this contribution)

I think the original wording is still there and therefore has some relevance.

On the previo...

Baroness Benjamin | 756 c1106 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the NSPCC asked me to speak to this amendment because it believes that it will be benef...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc1106-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, on bringing this forward. We deb...

Baroness Tonge | 756 c1107 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness so much for making that point. The encouragement frequently comes from...

Lord Bates | 756 c1107 (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify, the Companion states that further interventions should be for clarification purp...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 c1108 (Link to this contribution)

It could be argued that that was a considerable clarification. I am grateful to the noble Barones...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 cc1108-9 (Link to this contribution)

Again, this has been a further excellent debate on the role of the criminal law in helping to put...

Baroness Meacher | 756 c1109 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her constructive response and all noble Lords who have spoken very const...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 cc1109-1110 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Harris of Haringey

46: After Clause 66, insert the following new Clause...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 cc1110-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of this amendment is to create an offence where an adult engages in a sexua...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 756 cc1112-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 46, which relates to the protection of children from sexual communi...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 cc1113-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it always seems churlish to take up points in the text of an amendment when one support...

Baroness Benjamin | 756 cc1114-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have already heard, the NSPCC supports the amendment and, as it always hold child...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc1115-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Harris and the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, have undertaken a servic...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1116-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am tempted by the Baroness’s offer to put my file aside, but I will stick with it a little beca...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c1117 (Link to this contribution)

I shall try not to intervene too often, given that we are on Report, but I would be grateful for ...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1117-1120 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that—and this may not endear me to the noble Lord, but I am only halfway through my spee...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 cc1119-1121 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the support that this amendment has had from the noble Baronesses, La...

Lord Bates | 756 c1121 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

46A: Clause 67, page 50, line 18, at end insert—

“( ) after...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1121-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

46B: Clause 67, page 50, line 21, at end insert—

“(1A) Inse...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1125-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

46E: After Clause 67, insert the following new Clause—

“Off...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1126-1137 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

46G: After Clause 67, insert the following new Clause—

“Fem...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c1137 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Harris of Haringey

47: After Clause 67, insert the following new Clause...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 cc1137-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Lord Chairman for allowing me to collect my thoughts on this amendment while...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 756 c1139 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to speak in support of Amendment 47 of the noble Lord, Lord Harris. Some...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 c1139 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hate to disappoint the noble Lord, Lord Harris, but I fear that I am going to, as I s...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc1140-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak briefly on this issue. During the Recess we had a meeting with Microsof...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1141-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness is absolutely right again, in the sense that technology is the probl...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 756 c1143 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, and my noble friend Lady Smith for the ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 cc1143-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

48: Before Clause 68, insert the following new...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 cc1144-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the violent use of knives and offensive weapons in prison poses a real threat to the sa...

Lord Wigley | 756 c1145 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wigley

49: After Clause 69, insert the following new Clause—

“Dom...

Lord Wigley | 756 cc1145-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled the amendment in order to enable this House to have a debate concerning b...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 756 cc1147-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Wigley. In my remarks, I ...

Lord Rosser | 756 cc1149-1150 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of our amendment, apart from giving an opportunity to debate the law relati...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 cc1150-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am in no doubt that there needs to be more effort, more prosecutions, more resources,...

Lord Wigley | 756 c1151 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to the noble Baroness. Does she accept that the potential crime of coer...

Baroness Hamwee | 756 c1151 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and no doubt that is why the Government have consulted on it. I, too, am looking forward ...

Baroness Stedman-Scott | 756 cc1151-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, like my noble friend Lord Dobbs, have not been involved in the conversations during ...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1152-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I will make a brief response to my noble friend Lady Stedman-Scott. One of the t...

Lord Wigley | 756 c1153 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to those who have participated in this debate—the noble Baronesses, ...

Lord Strasburger | 756 cc1153-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Strasburger

49B: After Clause 69, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Strasburger | 756 cc1156-1160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 49B seeks to repair a serious flaw in the Regulation of Investigatory Powers ...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 756 cc1159-1162 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest in this subject as executive director of the Telegraph Media Grou...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 756 cc1162-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also rise to support the amendment. The noble Lord, Lord Strasburger, spoke about the...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 756 cc1163-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Cohen of Pimlico, and to make the s...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 756 cc1164-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can be fairly brief in this debate because I think the Minister will have heard the v...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 756 cc1165-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for explaining the purpose of this amendment. I do not...

Lord Strasburger | 756 c1167 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been an interesting debate. The House seems to have one view and the Minister se...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1168-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

49D: Schedule 4, page 76, line 25, at end insert—

“Visiting...

Lord Bates | 756 c1169 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

55: Clause 71, page 52, line 9, at end insert—

“( ) An orde...

Lord Bates | 756 cc1169-1170 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

57A: Clause 71, page 53, line 1, leave out subsection (10) and in...

Lord Bates | 756 c1170 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

58: Clause 72, page 53, line 10, at end insert—

“( ) sectio...

Lord Bates | 756 c1170 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

60: Clause 73, page 53, line 34, at end insert—

“( ) paragr...

Lord Bates | 756 c1170 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

65: In the Title, line 7, after “children;” insert “to make it an...

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