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Consumer Rights Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 20 October 2014, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 33-41 and 43-47, agreed to. Clause 42, as amended, agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
756 cc163-214GC 
Session
2014-15
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Consumer Rights Bill 2013-14 to 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 17 June 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. third report.
Wednesday, 9 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 756 c163GC (Link to this contribution)

Good afternoon, my Lords. This is the third day of the Consumer Rights Bill. If there is a Divisi...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c163GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

31A: Clause 33, page 21, line 35, at end insert—...


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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc163-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 31A is also in the names of my noble friends Lady Hayter and Lord Knight of W...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 cc166-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too applaud the Government for wanting to legislate on this area, because it is movin...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc167-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the digital provisions are a vital aspect of the Bill, bringing consumer law into the 2...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c169GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister gets back into her stride, I hope that she will forgive me if I ask her a que...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c169GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can come back to that when I finish developing the argument. We had the first point and...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c170GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt; I fear that I may become an irritating presence at this stage. Many desi...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c170GC (Link to this contribution)

That brings me on to the points raised by the noble Lords, Lord Stevenson and Lord Knight. Perhap...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c170GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the department be collecting those data?

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc170-1GC (Link to this contribution)

The department always keeps the operation of new regulations under review, and I can certainly fo...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc171-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response, although I am very disappointed in it. I also thank my nob...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c172GC (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend and I apologise if I am getting tedious. Through him, I say...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c172GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for his intervention.

In conclusion, the argument that it is not po...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c172GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

32: Clause 33, page 21, line 38, at end insert—<...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc173-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 33 sets out which contracts to supply digital content are covered by this chapte...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc174-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I enjoyed the graphic picture described by the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, of how thing...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc175-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response. I take it from that that there is now agreement and clarit...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c176GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

33: Clause 34, page 22, line 21, at end insert—<...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc176-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Your Lordships will be glad to know that this is my third of three amendments, and then I will ha...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc178-180GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the first time, this Bill clarifies what rights consumers have when they buy digita...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c180GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for her comments, although I am slightly alarmed by the example of the...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c180GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

34: Clause 34, page 22, line 22, after “relevant),” inser...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc180-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 34 and speak to Amendments 36, 37 and 38. Clause 34 specifies t...

Baroness King of Bow | 756 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an interesting group of amendments. “Oh no, it’s not”, I hear you say. Oh yes, ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 cc183-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, last Tuesday I facilitated part of an event at BAFTA organised by Innotech. One of the ...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc184-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an interesting debate. Amendment 34 raises an important issue for digital...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc186-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend. She certainly came out fighting for Clauses 34, 35 and 36. I t...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c188GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

34A: Clause 34, page 22, line 40, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c188GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to have the support of the noble Lord, Lord Sugar, for Amendment 34A....

Baroness King of Bow | 756 cc188-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment would provide further exemptions to the providers of digital content, fr...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc189-190GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Bill aims to create confident consumers who are more likely to try new products and...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c190GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be slightly unusual for me, but I thank my noble friend for an extremely well ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c190GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

34B: Clause 35, page 23, line 18, leave out “or by implic...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c191GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 34B I will speak also to Amendment 34C.

Under the current wor...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc191-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the comments of my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones and for his constr...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc192-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend the Minister for her response. It is interesting and rather tri...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c193GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

39: Clause 36, page 24, line 9, at end insert—

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc193-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 39 aims to ensure that a consumer is aware of their statutory rights and what...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c195GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was hoping to catch my noble friend before he sat down, but I am sure he will save up...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c195GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is an interesting point. I think that the intention behind the amendment was to re...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc195-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment relates to communication of the costs that the consumer will face. This ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c196GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for giving way. I am interested in what she said about the principles ...

Baroness Jolly | 756 c196GC (Link to this contribution)

That is my understanding, but I sought to check the point with my team before it goes into Hansar...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c196GC (Link to this contribution)

Just to be troublesome, the Advertising Standards Authority is not a statutory body, although it ...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc196-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Rather than mislead the noble Lord, I shall send him a letter and copy it to all noble Lords who ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for responding to these points and I look forward to rece...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

40: Clause 40, page 25, line 31, at end insert—<...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc197-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are circulating around the issues that come with the new trading activity of intangi...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc198-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when the issue of the trader’s responsibility when they are aware that they have a digi...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c199GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response. I will read carefully what she has said and consider it. I...

Lord Haskel | 756 c199GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Haskel

40A: Clause 40, page 25, line 31, at end insert—

“( ) Subs...

Lord Haskel | 756 cc199-200GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as my noble friend said, Clause 36 deals with digital content and the consumer’s right ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c200GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have considerable sympathy with my noble friends’ amendment. However, I should like t...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c200GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Sugar for putting down this amendment and my nobl...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc201-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am also grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Haskel, for his amendment and for standing i...

Lord Haskel | 756 c202GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry I was not here to hear about my noble friend’s problems with her iPad. I was in a Sele...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c202GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

41: Clause 42, page 26, line 31, at end insert—

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c204GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

42: Clause 46, page 28, line 28, at end insert—

“( ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc204-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the rationale for this amendment is that Clause 46, which deals with consumer compensat...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc205-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened with great interest to my noble friend’s concerns. However, it is worth goin...

Lord Geddes | 756 c206GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is now 6.23 pm. At least, it is according to the Annunciator, not the Clock; we shou...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c206GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had finished explaining the background to what we were seeking to achieve, which is i...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c206GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend once again for a very clear exposition. If there is ambiguity w...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 cc207-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we question whether Clause 46 is as effective as it might be in this area. Although the...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 756 c208GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my question returns to something that I have come back to every now and then today. In ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 cc208-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this clause aims to address a specific concern of consumer groups who have told us that...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

I agree—I take the rebuke. Obviously, perfect spelling is very important to the future of civilis...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her comments. By her use of examples she has explained some of...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may clarify that obviously it is ultimately for the courts since we are talking about p...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

I am now slightly more confused because the text of the Bill states that the consumer has a right...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I have confused the noble Lord by saying that ultimately this is a matter for the courts....

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 756 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

“A hae ma doots” about that—but perhaps I should not use that term in Hansard. I have some doubts...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

43: Clause 47, page 29, line 20, after “would” insert “un...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc210-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 43 I shall speak also to Amendment 44. Very significantly, the effe...

Baroness Jolly | 756 cc211-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard that this amendment seeks to introduce into the digital content chapter a...

Lord Clement-Jones | 756 cc212-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for her response. In contrast to some of her earlier responses,...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 756 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.

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