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Criminal Justice and Courts Bill

Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 25 to 28 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to. Part 1 of 2.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
755 cc931-979 
Session
2014-15
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Legislative scrutiny: (1) Criminal justice and Courts Bill and (2) Deregulation Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee fourteenth report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 14 May 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Criminal Justice and Courts Bill 2013-14 to 2014-15. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 18 June 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Criminal Justice and Courts Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) second report.
Wednesday, 2 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. third report.
Wednesday, 9 July 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Criminal Justice and Courts Bill
Monday, 21 July 2014
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 755 cc931-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose Clause 25 standing part of the Bill. The clause would make a custodial sentenc...

Lord Paddick | 755 cc934-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like my noble friend Lord Marks, I also oppose this clause. The provisions for compulso...


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Lord Deben | 755 cc936-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask the Government to think carefully about this clause—and I do so because they have...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 755 cc937-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly oppose the proposal that Clause 25 should not stand part of the Bill and it ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 755 cc938-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, judicial discretion is a very important aspect of the judicial process. However, embedd...

Baroness Mallalieu | 755 cc939-940 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene briefly. I have deep unease about this clause for a number of reasons that ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 755 c940 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I deplore the carrying of knives, as do all of us in this House. I shall make two short...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 755 cc940-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may, I will add a few words in support of the points made by the noble and learned...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 755 c941 (Link to this contribution)

I intervene on the noble and learned Lord with a degree of trepidation. He rightly gives the expe...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 755 c941 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for raising that point. Of course, one supports everything t...

Lord Woolf | 755 c942 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is with some considerable hesitation that I speak now, with two views having been ex...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 755 c942 (Link to this contribution)

That is not correct. The case that I referred to was at first instance in a trial in the High Cou...

Lord Woolf | 755 cc942-3 (Link to this contribution)

I stand corrected on that but again, if I may say so, their experience was not, because of the wa...

Baroness Howells of St Davids | 755 c943 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not meant to take part in this debate; I am neither a lawyer nor a judge. However...

Baroness Berridge | 755 cc943-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I raised this matter at Second Reading and draw to the Committee’s attention the fact t...

Baroness Walmsley | 755 c944 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to speak in this debate and will do so briefly. I have listened care...

Earl of Listowel | 755 cc944-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask the Minister to clarify one issue, and ask for help from my noble friend Lord Bla...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 755 cc945-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course it is wrong for a young person to carry a knife. Of course we want to remove ...

Baroness Buscombe | 755 cc946-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak with some trepidation because I have found this debate really rather de...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 755 c947 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened carefully to all the speeches and I must say I find the arguments on bo...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 755 c947 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, was not going to take part but the previous contribution was not worthy. This i...

Lord Richard | 755 cc947-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be very brief. What I object to in the Government’s proposal is the automaticit...

Baroness Manzoor | 755 c948 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, had not intended to speak, but I feel moved to do so on this occasion. We have ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 755 cc948-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, was not going to add my voice to this debate, but I feel compelled to do so for...

Lord Deben | 755 c949 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble and learned Baroness confirm for the Committee that neither she nor I have any int...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 755 c949 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can assure the Committee that this has been a sober debate on the issues and that it ...

Lord Macdonald of River Glaven | 755 c949 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, amen to that. Like the last several speakers, I had not intended to intervene in the de...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 755 cc949-950 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I make contributions to these debates, I am always conscious of a sense of nervous...

Lord Faulks | 755 cc950-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 25 would put in place a minimum custodial sentence of six months’ imprisonment f...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 755 c951 (Link to this contribution)

I am completely confused as to who the Minister is speaking on behalf of. Is he speaking on behal...

Lord Faulks | 755 c951 (Link to this contribution)

I hope it will not be a regular occurrence. I am endeavouring, in my short remarks, to assist the...

Lord Richard | 755 c951 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister speaking for the Government or is he merely putting this before the Committee, so...

Lord Faulks | 755 c951 (Link to this contribution)

I am putting this before the Committee in circumstances in which, as I think the noble Lord well ...

Lord Deben | 755 c951 (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend agree that this is too important an issue for it to become a kind of joke me...

Lord Faulks | 755 c951 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my noble friend that it should be considered seriously and a judgment exercised by t...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 755 cc951-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. Whoever he is speaking on behalf of, he should regard me as a floa...

Lord Faulks | 755 c952 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord’s intervention, I was going to conclude by saying that this is not a clause...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 755 c952 (Link to this contribution)

I am not a lawyer or a civil servant draftsman. Does that mean that if this clause is agreed to, ...

Lord Faulks | 755 c952 (Link to this contribution)

It is not a question of guidelines; there are a number of particular defects in the clause. For e...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 755 c953 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government have so many reservations about this clause, surely their position should be to...

Lord Faulks | 755 c953 (Link to this contribution)

The Committee is looking carefully at the clause. I have endeavoured to assist with various quest...

Lord Deben | 755 c953 (Link to this contribution)

Would it help the Government if we voted this clause down? They could then produce a clause that ...

Lord Cormack | 755 c953 (Link to this contribution)

Why have a vote at all? We are in Committee and the Bill will then be on Report. At that stage, t...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 755 c953 (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend elucidate for those Liberal Democrats who are unaccustomed to taking part in ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 755 cc953-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened to this debate for the last hour and a half and was almost looking forw...

Earl of Listowel | 755 c954 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for prolonging this still further. Following the noble Lord, Lord Harris of...

Lord Faulks | 755 c954 (Link to this contribution)

There were quite a number of interventions. I will endeavour, very briefly, to say what I can wit...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 755 cc954-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important debate. It has been a serious and sober debate. I agree with...

Lord Beecham | 755 c955 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Beecham

35A: After Clause 26, insert the following new Clause—

“O...

Lord Beecham | 755 cc955-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after the late excitement, we come to the more mundane world of driving while disqualif...

Lord Faulks | 755 cc959-960 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, as the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, has explained, would make the current ...

Lord Beecham | 755 c960 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the Minister’s indication. What he said underlines the legitimacy of the charge...

Lord Faulks | 755 c960 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Faulks

36: After Clause 27, insert the following new Clause—

“Mee...

Lord Faulks | 755 cc960-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this Government, and I know this House, are committed to doing their utmost to protect ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 755 c962 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an extremely sensible amendment. I rise on behalf of Barnardo’s to express its ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 755 c962 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a member of Barnardo’s, I am delighted on this occasion to be able to agree with my ...

Baroness Thornton | 755 c962 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches welcome the amendment. I welcome it personally because I took part ...

Lord Faulks | 755 c962 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for those brief but welcome interventions by a number of noble Lords, not least of ...

Baroness Thornton | 755 c962 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

36A: Clause 28, page 28, leave out lines 1 and 2

Baroness Thornton | 755 cc962-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to introduce a group of amendments that seek to tighten up Clause 28 and m...

Lord Colwyn | 755 c964 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the Committee that if Amendment 36B is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 36C to 36F; i...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 755 c965 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for her amendments to Clause 28, because it ...

Baroness Barker | 755 c965 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for explaining to the Committee the details ...

Lord Faulks | 755 cc965-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the concern shown by the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, and other nob...

Baroness Thornton | 755 c966 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his considered, if somewhat disappointing, response. The point of the Co...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 755 cc966-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

37: After Clause 28, insert the following new...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 755 cc969-971 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the term “revenge pornography” refers to the publication, usually but not always, on th...

Baroness Berridge | 755 cc971-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 40 in this group. It seeks to introduce a new criminal but...

Baroness Grender | 755 cc972-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for having been unable to attend Second Reading. I will speak in particular...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 755 c973 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the principles behind Amendments 37 and 40. The internet, as we all know, is ...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 755 cc973-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is important that this proposed new clause is drawn with real care. While I hear the...

Baroness Morris of Bolton | 755 cc974-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lady Berridge set out strongly the case for Amendment 40 with which I a...

Baroness Brinton | 755 cc975-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to Amendments 37, 38 and 39 and I shall not repeat the very good points...

Baroness Barker | 755 c976 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will address the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Kennedy of The Shaws, that th...

Baroness Thornton | 755 cc976-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very good and interesting debate. We on these Benches support the princ...

Lord Faulks | 755 cc977-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very useful debate indeed. I will deal with Amendments 37, 38, 39 and 4...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 755 c979 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has spoken in this debate, and to the Minister for his st...

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