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Care Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Monday, 14 October 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords report stage second day. Some amendments made. New clause (Lords amendment 76) debated and withdrawn. New clause (Lords amendment 77) debated and disagreed on division (72 to 143).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
748 cc269-346 
Session
2013-14
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Care Bill (HL) 2013-14. As amended in Lords Committee.
Monday, 29 July 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Earl Howe | 748 c269 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

32: Clause 9, page 8, line 27, leave out paragraph (d)

Earl Howe | 748 cc269-271 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to the other amendments in this group, Amendments 33, 36, 37, 39, 40...


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Baroness Pitkeathley | 748 cc271-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the changes that the Government have made concerning assessments are very welcome. I pa...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 cc272-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much welcome the Government’s Amendments 33, 39 and 40. So far as Amendments 39 ...

Baroness Meacher | 748 cc274-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 41 is a probing amendment, so I will speak briefly. Before I say anything els...

Lord Dubs | 748 cc275-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome how far the Minister has moved from Committee to today. I hope that noble Lor...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 748 c276 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I generally support these government amendments, and thank the Minister for introducing...

Baroness Wheeler | 748 cc276-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this large group of amendments reflects issues that we covered extensively in Committee...

Earl Howe | 748 cc278-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the support that noble Lords have given to the government amendments....

Earl Howe | 748 c279 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

33: Clause 9, page 8, line 36, at end insert—

“( ) When carr...

Earl Howe | 748 c280 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

36: Clause 10, page 9, line 21, leave out paragraph (f)

37: ...

Earl Howe | 748 c280 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

39: Clause 12, page 10, line 39, leave out from “which” to “jointl...

Earl Howe | 748 c280 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

42: Clause 12, page 11, line 23, leave out subsection (5) and inse...

Earl Howe | 748 c281 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

45: Clause 13, page 12, line 1, leave out paragraph (b)

Earl Howe | 748 c281 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

49: Clause 14, page 13, line 13, at end insert “; and the regulati...

Earl Howe | 748 cc281-2 (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 49, I wish to speak also to the other government amendments in this group, Am...

Lord Lipsey | 748 cc282-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to Amendment 55 on top-ups and comment, also briefly, on the prop...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 748 cc283-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the noble Earl’s amendments. As we start another day on Report I should decla...

Lord Warner | 748 cc285-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the self-appointed keeper to this House of the Dilnot tablets, I support Amendments ...

Baroness Greengross | 748 cc286-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I add my voice in support of Amendment 55, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord L...

Earl Howe | 748 cc287-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I turn to Amendment 55, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, which concer...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 748 c288 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, is he satisfied that, without the amendment of the noble Lord, Lor...

Earl Howe | 748 c288 (Link to this contribution)

I can reassure my noble and learned friend that, if we look at the arrangements we are proposing ...

Earl Howe | 748 c288 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

50: Clause 14, page 13, line 13, at end insert—

“( ) Regulat...

Earl Howe | 748 cc288-9 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

51: Clause 17, page 15, line 14, leave out “provide that where” an...

Earl Howe | 748 c289 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

57: Clause 19, page 17, line 5, at end insert—

“( ) A local ...

Earl Howe | 748 c289 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I assure the House that the Government are in agreement with the intentions behind the ...

Lord Warner | 748 cc289-291 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, while I welcome Amendment 57, I want to set out the case for the Minister going a good ...

Baroness Greengross | 748 c291 (Link to this contribution)

I support the comments made by the noble Lord, Lord Warner, about this amendment. We know that th...

Lord Patel | 748 cc292-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke about this issue when we debated the gracious Speech, at Second Reading and in ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 748 cc293-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare all my interests in this field, which are listed. These amendments are incred...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 748 c294 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much welcome government Amendment 57. Of course, I have supported the recommenda...

Baroness Wheeler | 748 cc294-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we welcome another opportunity to consider the very important issue of how people are c...

Earl Howe | 748 cc296-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for expressing their views on this important subject so el...

Lord Warner | 748 c298 (Link to this contribution)

I thought I had a right to respond to the noble Earl on Amendment 137.

Lord Colwyn | 748 c298 (Link to this contribution)

It was the noble Earl’s amendment. Can we go back to it? We cannot.

Clause 20: Duty and pow...

Earl Howe | 748 c298 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

59: Clause 24, page 21, line 1, leave out subsection (3) and inser...

Earl Howe | 748 c299 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

62: Clause 25, page 22, line 20, leave out subsection (11) and ins...

Lord Lipsey | 748 c299 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Lipsey

62A: Clause 35, page 29, line 27, at end insert—

“( ) Regu...

Lord Lipsey | 748 c299 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, am I speaking at the right time on the right subject?

Lord Lipsey | 748 cc299-302 (Link to this contribution)

That is a great relief to me. I will come to the narrow-ish point in the amendments shortly but I...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 748 cc302-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important subject. Clause 34 provides for deferred payment agreements and lo...

Lord Warner | 748 cc303-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise again as the keeper of the Dilnot tablets on the subject of deferred payments. I...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 748 c304 (Link to this contribution)

I do not understand why it is necessary to have any kind of limit in relation to this matter so l...

Baroness Barker | 748 c304 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise only to ask a question. I agree with the noble Lords, Lord Warner and Lord Lipse...

Lord Warner | 748 c305 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps it would help the House if the character from Hogwarts actually explained what ...

Earl Howe | 748 c305 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may deal first with the initial point raised by the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, ...

Lord Warner | 748 c305 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may correct the noble Earl. We actually referred to a universal and standard scheme. We...

Earl Howe | 748 cc305-7 (Link to this contribution)

I shall come on to the standard scheme proposal in a moment. We need to ensure that this arrangem...

Lord Lipsey | 748 cc307-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. On the first two of the three legs of his argument...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 748 c308 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

63: Clause 35, page 30, line 12, at end insert—

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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 748 c308 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I share my noble friend’s concern about what we have heard tonight. From what the noble...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 748 c309 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Campbell of Surbiton (CB)

63ZA: Clause 37, page 31, line 39, at end...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 748 cc309-314 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to government Amendment 63A and my Amendment 63B. Before I begin, pl...

Baroness O'Loan | 748 c314 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendments, particularly because of their implication for h...

Baroness Wheeler | 748 cc314-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are mostly technical amendments, which we support. We are especially pleased that...

Earl Howe | 748 cc315-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Care Bill will for the first time introduce a duty on local authorities to ensure t...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 748 cc316-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords and the noble Baronesses, Lady Wheeler and Lady O’Loan, for speakin...

Earl Howe | 748 c318 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

63A: Clause 37, page 31, line 44, at end insert—

“(8A) Pendi...

Earl Howe | 748 c318 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

64: Clause 39, page 34, line 1, after “authority” insert “in Engla...

Earl Howe | 748 cc319-320 (Link to this contribution)

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Earl Howe

68: Schedule 1, page 101, line 42, leave out “in a case within any...

Baroness Greengross | 748 c320 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Greengross

76: After Clause 40, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Greengross | 748 cc320-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 124. Amendment 76 seeks to ensure that a clear process ...

Baroness Meacher | 748 cc322-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 123. In doing so, I add my support to Amendments 76 and 12...

Lord Warner | 748 cc323-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments—not necessarily the specific wording but the principles behi...

Baroness Hollins | 748 c325 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I support all the amendments in this group, particularly Amendment 124 to whic...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 748 c325 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments requiring a system of adjudication able to deal with the who...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 748 cc325-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 76 of the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross. I also sup...

Earl Howe | 748 cc326-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the heart of these amendments is an important issue: the voice of older and disabled...

Lord Warner | 748 c329 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I will ask on a point of clarification. He made a lot of reassurin...

Earl Howe | 748 c329 (Link to this contribution)

I may need to answer that question later. However, my understanding is that, yes, we can do it th...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 748 c329 (Link to this contribution)

Again, before my noble friend finally sits down: he mentioned the principles that would seem appl...

Earl Howe | 748 c329 (Link to this contribution)

I take the point made by my noble and learned friend. We cannot iron out every kind of disparity,...

Lord Warner | 748 c329 (Link to this contribution)

Just to finish off this discussion, I have another point for the Minister to consider, which was ...

Baroness Greengross | 748 cc329-330 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all the noble Lords and noble Baronesses who have supported these amendments. I...

Baroness Greengross | 748 cc330-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Greengross

77: After Clause 41, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Greengross | 748 cc331-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to be popping up and down. This amendment and the others are about elder abu...

Lord Rix | 748 cc333-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I lend my support to Amendment 77, tabled by my noble friend Lady Greengross. I would a...

Baroness Meacher | 748 c334 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 77, 80 and 82, to which I have added my name. I will also comment ...

Baroness Hollins | 748 cc334-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lady Greengross on the duty to r...

Lord Warner | 748 c335 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support Amendment 77 and to ask the noble Earl whether his department...

Baroness Barker | 748 cc335-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, particularly on Amendment 77 about power...

Baroness Wheeler | 748 cc337-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in addressing these amendments I once again emphasise that we very much welcome the pla...

Earl Howe | 748 cc338-341 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the first time the Government will, through this Bill, place adult safeguarding in ...

Lord Rix | 748 c340 (Link to this contribution)

I fully understand the argument that the Government do not want a great list of what constitutes ...

Earl Howe | 748 cc340-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will gladly look into that point. I am sure that it is possible to do that but, as the noble Ba...

Baroness Greengross | 748 c342 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have to say that I am extremely disappointed that the noble Earl cannot in some way m...

Earl Howe | 748 c343 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness makes a final decision, I hope that I have been clear that I have refle...

Baroness Greengross | 748 c343 (Link to this contribution)

I am hesitating only because of time and I know that a lot of people have gone home. I thank the ...

Earl Howe | 748 c345 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

81: Schedule 2, page 105, line 34, at end insert—

“( ) what ...

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