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Energy Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 18 July 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage (sixth day). Clauses 5, 21 and 22 agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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747 cc325-386GC 
Session
2013-14
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Proceeding contributions
Lord Teverson | 747 c325GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Teverson

51N: Clause 5, page 5, line 9, at end insert—

“(f) to gi...

Lord Teverson | 747 cc325-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall have to be brief, as we are supposed to finish the Bill today, I think it says,...


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Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 c326GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the second part of the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Teverson...

Lord Roper | 747 cc326-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 55ZA in this group is in my name and that of the right reverend Prelate the B...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 747 cc329-330GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the theme of these two amendments, particularly the latter one. It is widely ...

Viscount Hanworth | 747 cc330-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, express my appreciation of the intentions of the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, and...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 747 c331GC (Link to this contribution)

I follow on from my noble friend’s remark and say that Amendment 51N is pretty vacuous. It is giv...

Lord Dixon-Smith | 747 cc331-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not know whether my noble friend Lord Deben is getting up to speak or walking out....

Lord Grantchester | 747 cc332-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, for his introduction to the debate on the demand ...

Baroness Maddock | 747 cc333-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friends in trying to highlight the importance of demand reduction an...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc334-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friends for enabling me to lay out further a response to the amendment...

Lord Roper | 747 c336GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for what she has said, and in particular for draw...

Lord Teverson | 747 c337GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. I am totally unapologetic abou...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 c337GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Jenkin of Roding

52: Clause 5, page 5, line 9, at end insert—

“(f...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 cc337-340GC (Link to this contribution)

Colleagues may remember that I gave notice on Second Reading, during a passage when I spoke about...

Lord Roper | 747 c340GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to this amendment but I shall be very brief because my noble friend...

Baroness Worthington | 747 cc340-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Jenkin of Roding and Lord Roper, for tabling their amendm...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 747 c341GC (Link to this contribution)

I remember the birth of the 1989 legislation. At that time, due to what were deemed to be the fun...

Lord Roper | 747 c341GC (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord agree that because First Utility is only a supplier, it considers itself at a...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 747 cc341-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with the noble Lord. The point that I am trying to make is that, while Fir...

Lord Deben | 747 cc342-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am driven to get to my feet by the wise words of the noble Lord, Lord O’Neill—he may ...

Lord Berkeley | 747 cc343-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall intervene briefly because I do not want to pre-empt what I am going to say in m...

Viscount Ridley | 747 c344GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to intervene on this amendment and I shall do so extremely briefly, ...

Lord Crickhowell | 747 c344GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to intervene but, while listening to this debate and agreeing with w...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc344-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Jenkin and the noble Baroness, Lady Worthington, for their...

Baroness Worthington | 747 c346GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may ask for clarification before the noble Baroness sits down. I accept her c...

Baroness Verma | 747 c346GC (Link to this contribution)

I have been informed that it does take into consideration the points that the noble Baroness has ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 cc346-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to those who have contributed to this very important debate. As...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 c347GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I might finish my sentence before I give way. I wish more people on the “Today” programme...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 747 c347GC (Link to this contribution)

The point that the noble Lord makes is a good one, but he has chosen the easy one, where there wa...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 cc347-8GC (Link to this contribution)

If I may say so, my regulatory system was RPI minus X. I had an interview with a very senior Amer...

Lord Whitty | 747 c348GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

52B: Clause 5, page 5, line 12, at end insert—

“( ) The Se...

Lord Whitty | 747 cc348-351GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 52B, I shall speak also to the other amendments in this group....

Baroness Maddock | 747 c350GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Whitty. As I have declared before, I am vice-president o...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc350-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, and the noble Baroness, Lady Worthington, for tabl...

Lord Whitty | 747 cc352-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister and also to the noble Baroness, Lady Maddock, for her sup...

Lord Berkeley | 747 c353GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

53: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—

“Di...

Lord Berkeley | 747 cc353-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to some extent, we started discussing the issue of fair competition in the debate on Am...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 747 cc354-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I have some questions for my noble friend. What he is suggesting has been tried before. We used t...

Viscount Hanworth | 747 cc356-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment of my noble friend Lord Berkeley. If his amendment were adopted...

Lord Deben | 747 cc358-360GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very clear in my desire to have maximum competition. I have been fascinated to hea...

Lord Oxburgh | 747 c360GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make two quick points. First, I point out that many Governments would salivate a...

Viscount Hanworth | 747 c360GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may make a few more comments, some of them addressed to things that have just been said...

Baroness Worthington | 747 cc360-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Deben, when I read this I thought that it was a very elegantl...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc362-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for his amendment. Amendment 53 is aime...

Baroness Worthington | 747 cc364-5GC (Link to this contribution)

In response to the Minister’s direct question, we would have a regulator which, when it is asked,...

Lord Berkeley | 747 c365GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. We have had a very wide-ran...

Lord Teverson | 747 c365GC (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the noble Lord will not mind me intervening. I thought that the noble Lord, Lord O’Ne...

Lord Berkeley | 747 c365GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that it was particularly perfect then. We thought that it would get better, but wh...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 747 c366GC (Link to this contribution)

I just want to make the point to my noble friend that, of the six companies that currently exist ...

Lord Berkeley | 747 c366GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend. He is absolutely right. It is good to have Scottish companies. ...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 c366GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Davies of Stamford

53ZZA: Clause 21, page 13, line 36, leave out “may” ...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 cc366-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will deal briefly with the first of my amendments, which would replace “may” with “mu...

Baroness Maddock | 747 c368GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think it is absolutely true that we have not talked about small businesses and...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 c368GC (Link to this contribution)

I was not suggesting that we had not talked about small businesses. Of course people have talked ...

Baroness Maddock | 747 c369GC (Link to this contribution)

I totally agree with the noble Lord, but he gave the impression, I think, that we had not concern...

Earl of Caithness | 747 c369GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Stamford, on producing an amendment that ...

Lord Whitty | 747 cc369-370GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I briefly signal the support of our Front Bench for the amendments. Although I am famil...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc370-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Stamford, for his amendments. Like m...

Lord Roper | 747 c371GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with reference to the regulations being referred to here and elsewhere, will my noble f...

Baroness Verma | 747 c371GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not be able to give my noble friend an answer now but, if he will allow it, I wi...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 cc371-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the contributions to that short debate. On the issue of “may” versus ...

Lord Teverson | 747 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with the noble Lord over this. However, one thing which happened quite recentl...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that we are all very much agreed. I am grateful to everybody who has contributed. I am gr...

Baroness Verma | 747 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord withdraws, which I am hoping he will do, I have just been given a note refe...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 747 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I had not noticed that announcement yesterday, I am afraid, ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Jenkin of Roding

53ZA: Clause 21, page 13, line 41, after “electricity”...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 cc373-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my intention in tabling this amendment was to draw the Committee’s attention to the nee...

Lord Deben | 747 c374GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a very important amendment, not least because there are other aspects of planni...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 c374GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may interrupt my noble friend for a moment. Somebody is operating a mobile phone, and i...

Lord Deben | 747 cc374-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for explaining what it was that I said that was so damaging.

I woul...

Baroness Worthington | 747 c375GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, on the fut...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc375-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Jenkin for his amendment. Amendment 53ZA proposes that pro...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 747 c377GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my noble friend for her careful reply to the amendment. It is clear that sh...

Lord Grantchester | 747 c377GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Grantchester

53A: Clause 21, page 13, line 42, after first “electricity...

Lord Grantchester | 747 cc377-381GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we return to the demand-side provisions in the Bill. We spoke earlier today about how t...

Viscount Hanworth | 747 cc379-382GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is the result of a representation to us by the Combined Heat and Power A...

Lord Roper | 747 c382GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very sympathetic to the first three amendments and, to a more restricted extent, t...

Lord Teverson | 747 cc382-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome any amendment that emphasises the demand side of this issue. I particularly l...

Baroness Verma | 747 cc383-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Grantchester, for his detailed explanation of his amendmen...

Lord Grantchester | 747 cc385-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is excellently timed as the clock strikes six. I thank the noble Baroness for her ...

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