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Local Audit and Accountability Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 26 June 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 33 to 47 agreed to. Schedules 9 to 12 agreed to as amended. Schedule 13 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 36).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
746 cc219-268GC 
Session
2013-14
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Local Audit and Accountability Bill (HL) 2013-14
Thursday, 9 May 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hanham | 746 c219GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

18: Schedule 9, page 72, line 9, after “force” inse...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c219GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 18, which amends paragraph 4(9) of Schedule 9, I shall also speak t...


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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c220GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

18ZZZA*: Schedule 9, page 74, line 1, at end insert—<...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc220-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment refers to Schedule 9, and in particular paragraph 8(2).

The power ...

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 746 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, what worries me with this is the possibility of spreading the data protection rules and...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord accept that the purpose of the amendment is not to spread anything further bu...

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 746 c222GC (Link to this contribution)

Let me give an example. If one is looking into housing fraud, one does not, as a local authority,...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 cc222-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for these purposes, I should remind noble Lords that I am the spokesman in the Lords fo...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c223GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister, and that we got two for the price of one with the Minister for the...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

18ZZA: Schedule 10, page 75, line 32, at end insert...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 18ZZA, which applies to paragraph 8 of Schedule 10, I shall also sp...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Lytton

18ZA: Clause 34, page 21, line 6, after “authorities” ins...

Earl of Lytton | 746 cc225-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment returns to an issue that was flagged up by more than one noble Lord at S...

Lord Tope | 746 cc226-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, for moving his amendment, to which I have...

Lord Beecham | 746 c227GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a vice-president of the LGA but I am not sure that I will retain that position aft...

Lord Beecham | 746 c227GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, whole place. It is playing with words, and of course Labour words such as “total” are not ac...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc228-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like my noble friend who was unable to support these amendments from the noble Earl, Lo...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc229-231GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is not very often that the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, makes my case for me, and I am...

Earl of Lytton | 746 cc231-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Tope, for his support and the noble Lords, Lord McK...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Earl withdraws his amendment, can the Minister tell us any more about the value-...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

We are currently considering the future management of the Audit Commission’s value for money—the ...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Not to prolong the matter, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Hanham | 746 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hanham

19: Schedule 11, page 78, line 22, after “force” insert “on ...

Lord Tope | 746 cc232-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tope

19B: After Clause 37, insert the following new Clause—

“Loca...

Lord Tope | 746 cc233-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 19B I shall also speak to Amendment 19E, which must be the longest ...

Lord Beecham | 746 cc235-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a certain sympathy with the amendment moved by the noble Lord. It is a long time...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c236GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will follow what the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, said, in the same vein, because I thin...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc236-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, happily, noble Lords have not quite agreed on this again, which is always very useful a...

Lord Tope | 746 cc238-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am searching for the words in the coalition agreement which certainly comply with the...

Lord Beecham | 746 c239GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Beecham

19BA*: Clause 38, page 24, line 46, at end insert—

“(3) I...

Lord Beecham | 746 cc239-240GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this rather intimidating-looking amendment is a probing amendment. It arises somewhat c...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc240-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just want to check for the noble Lord the exact position regarding elections because ...

Lord Beecham | 746 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

Is an election to be treated the same as a referendum because a referendum is putting an issue? I...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important point. If the noble Lord withdraws the amendment, perhaps we can d...

Lord Beecham | 746 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes. I am grateful for the assurance and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Tope | 746 cc241-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I gave notice of my intention to oppose Clause 38 standing part of the Bill, and I did ...

Lord Beecham | 746 cc242-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I can give the Minister a few more minutes to assemble her thoughts.

Once...

Earl of Lytton | 746 cc244-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Tope, will be pleased to know that the National Association of Loc...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc245-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise that the Room is not with me but it is none the less extremely important th...

Lord Beecham | 746 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Beecham

19BB*: Clause 39, page 26, line 14, leave out subsection (15)

Lord Beecham | 746 cc247-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of the Committee, I will speak to both this amendment and the following ...

Lord Smith of Leigh | 746 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I speak on this matter I shall declare my interests. I am a vice-president of th...

Lord Tope | 746 c249GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, have some concerns about this clause although I am a little unsure about whethe...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc250-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I understand it, the noble Lord has grouped together Amendments 19BB and 19BC. Amend...

Lord Beecham | 746 c251GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course I am not going to seek to test the opinion of the Committee today, but this i...

Lord Geddes | 746 c252GC (Link to this contribution)

It may assist the Grand Committee if I advise that this is not an amendment as such but an opport...

Earl of Lytton | 746 cc252-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my entire purpose in objecting to the clause came not only at the request of the LGA bu...

Lord Tope | 746 cc253-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I begin by reassuring the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, that he may be in a minority of two. I share h...

Lord Smith of Leigh | 746 cc254-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the noble Earl about the problems of the electoral cycle. It was a bit dis...

Lord Beecham | 746 c255GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be brief. The position is a curious one in relation to what the Government rega...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc255-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. I shall try to deal with one o...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc256-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I was trying to be brief; it is always a mistake.

I want to make it clear that the Secretar...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c258GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Lytton

19C: After Clause 39, insert the following new Clause—

Earl of Lytton | 746 cc258-260GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I tabled this amendment in order to raise the wider issues of parish polls. In order to...

Lord Beecham | 746 c260GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Earl has made a compelling case. We seem to be moving from the high politics ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 cc260-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was unaware of the parish poll dimension. I say from the outset that, although we are...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c261GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was not my intention to press the amendment, particularly as we are in Grand Committ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc261-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

19D*: After Clause 39, insert the following new Claus...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc262-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment calls for a report to Parliament on the impact of the new audit regime an...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 cc263-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government support the intention behind this amendment. Post-implementation review ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c264GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his response. Of course, I will withdraw the amendment.

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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c264GC (Link to this contribution)

I take the point about health bodies. This clearly is an important part of the arrangement. We, o...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c264GC (Link to this contribution)

I welcome that and would like to take up that opportunity. In the mean time, I beg leave to withd...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c265GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

20: Schedule 12, page 82, line 29, leave out “see P...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c265GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

23A: Schedule 12, page 93, line 7, at end insert—

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c266GC (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 23A would add new provisions within Schedule 12. The purpose of this amendment is to in...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c266GC (Link to this contribution)

That is very clear. I am happy with the amendment.

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc266-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

24: Schedule 12, page 96, line 2, at end insert—

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 cc267-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as Cabinet Office spokesman in the Lords with some responsibility for charities, this i...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

I have only one question for the noble Lord which concerns his reference to an independent examin...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 746 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

I think we are referring back to the definition as in the Charities Act 2011. Since we have batte...

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