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Local Audit and Accountability Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 17 June 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 6 agreed to. Schedule 1 agreed to. Schedule 2 agreed to as amended.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
746 cc1-40GC 
Session
2013-14
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Local Audit and Accountability Bill (HL) 2013-14
Thursday, 9 May 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-1042
Monday, 24 June 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Fookes | 746 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind the Committee that, if there is a Division in the House, this Committee must a...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 2, at end insert—

“(6...


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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc1-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the start of our proceedings, for the record I should declare that I am a member of ...

Lord Smith of Leigh | 746 cc3-4GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Smith of Leigh:

My Lords, I first declare my interest. I am leader of Wigan Council an...

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 746 c4GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill:

My Lords, I also must declare that I am a member of the Institu...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc4-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, for introducing these two amendments which fire ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc6-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for that offer to take this away for further engagem...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c7GC (Link to this contribution)

Certainly on the first point, in what I said about local authorities doing what suits them, I was...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc7-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I am again grateful to the noble Baroness. Perhaps she might reflect on that last point and we co...

Lord Christopher | 746 cc8-10GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a lot of paperwork here and I will try to go through it without more repetition ...

Lord Shipley | 746 cc10-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my vice-presidency of the Local Government Association.

I have listened...

Lord Beecham | 746 cc12-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I certainly have a great deal of sympathy with the opposition to Clause 1 standing part expressed...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc15-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Christopher’s opposition to this clause standing part was delivere...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc16-20GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the debate initiated by the noble Lord, Lord Christopher, has, in many respects, touche...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c20GC (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister just deal with the issue of certification? The various references in the impac...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c20GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, the noble Lord asked that question. At the moment, we are working with the relevant departme...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c20GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but may I pursue one further point on the consideration of continuing with the Audit ...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c20GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there will be the interim body of the Audit Commission as it winds down, or a separate ...

Lord Christopher | 746 cc20-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was suggested that we needed to encourage competition. The Chancellor has not been s...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c21GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

2: Schedule 1, page 32, line 14, at end insert—

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc21-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that we have covered this in some measure. I have a series of probing amendment...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c22GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we touched on this briefly in the previous discussion, but I agree with the noble Lord ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c22GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that. It has provided the sort of information that I was seekin...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may respond to the noble Lord’s question because it will save a letter and gi...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

Thank you. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

3: Schedule 1, page 32, line 14, at end insert—

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is another brief probing amendment which is designed to ascertain what is to happe...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc23-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Schedule 1 allows the Government to bring forward a scheme or schemes transferring the ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c24GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that response and beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c24GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

5: Schedule 1, page 32, line 14, at end insert—

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 cc24-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 6. Amendment 5 requires that a transfer scheme must mak...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc25-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Baroness Hanham:

My Lords, I assure the noble Lord that it is the Government’s intention to...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c26GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for her reply. I am particularly grateful to her for referring to v...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c26GC (Link to this contribution)

Probably not within the terms of our deliberations on this. I am not certain whether it will be a...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c26GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that. I hope that in the other place they will at least have a chance to see so...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c27GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

7: Clause 2, page 2, line 9, after “regulations” inse...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c27GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to the other two amendments in this group. Perhaps we may start with...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc27-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, went in reverse order, but I shall go straight to his Am...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c28GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I took that reply to be yes to Amendments 7 and 8 with regard to consultation but not t...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c28GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hanham

10: Schedule 2, page 38, line 7, leave out “5” and insert “7...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc28-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 10 is a minor and technical amendment. It does not affect the intended effect...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c29GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are happy with the amendment. I would like to tell the Minister that we had spotted ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c29GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

11: Clause 3, page 2, line 34, at end insert “and sho...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c29GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 16. Amendment 11 amplifies the reference to the stateme...

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 746 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether it is necessary to have that provision here. By virtue of all the Acts that deal...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord consider Clauses 19 and 20? Clause 19 deals with “General duties of auditors”...

Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 746 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my only point is that the latter clauses deal with the general duties of auditors but t...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc30-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Palmer of Childs Hill, raises a question that I hope to answer—tha...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for that response. I would like to read the record about the explanation ...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that I responded to that in my comments just now. This is directly a part of th...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

12: Clause 3, page 3, line 1, leave out paragraph (b)...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is another probing amendment. Clause 3 deals with the general requirements for acc...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would remove a regulation-making power to lift or modify the duties impos...

Lord Beecham | 746 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to ask the Minister a question that I should perhaps have raised when speaking to the earl...

Baroness Hanham | 746 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the police authorities are included in terms of this clause. Does that answer the noble...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was a helpful explanation from the Minister and I am happy to withdraw the amendme...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Lytton

12A*: Clause 3, page 3, line 5, after “application” inser...

Earl of Lytton | 746 cc33-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as this is the first time on which I have spoken in Committee, I should declare my inte...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c35GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has raised some important questions with these amendments. My Amendment ...

Baroness Hanham | 746 cc35-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may take only a little time, partly because the noble Earl, Lord Lytton, and I hav...

Earl of Lytton | 746 c37GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for her extensive reply and for setting that out for...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for her response to the point that I raised under this group.

Lord Colwyn | 746 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

The question is that Clause 7 stand part of the Bill.

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may, I think that we agreed to draw stumps after Clause 6.

Lord Colwyn | 746 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

We did, my Lords, but in fact I can take us until the end of Clause 12 without need for further d...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 746 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

We have tabled further amendments to Clause 7 and those beyond it. That was in the agreement.

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Lord Colwyn | 746 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

In that case, that concludes the Committee’s business for today, so the Grand Committee stands ad...

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