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Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 (Amendment of Schedule 1) Order 2013

Debates on delegated legislation on Wednesday, 27 March 2013, in the House of Lords, led by Lord McNally. The answering member was Lord Bach.
Motion to approve. Agreed to as amended on division (166 to 161).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
744 cc1083-1097 
Session
2012-13
Department
Ministry of Justice
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 (Amendment of Schedule 1) Order
Monday, 4 February 2013
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Statutory Instruments Joint Committee twentieth report.
Wednesday, 27 February 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Lord McNally | 744 cc1084-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving the draft Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 (Amendme...

Lord Bach | 744 c1086 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bach


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Lord Bach | 744 cc1086-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope to move this regret Motion in an entirely non-partisan manner, because this matt...

Lord Bach | 744 cc1087-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise—it is nearly the end of term. I meant 201 votes to 191. I was about to say,...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 744 cc1088-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the speech we have heard from noble Lord, Lord Bach, is very sobering, and although he ...

Lord Beecham | 744 cc1089-1092 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate consists of two parts. The first is the regret Motion tabled by my noble fr...

Lord McNally | 744 cc1092-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the contributors to this debate. I have listened carefully to the points they h...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 744 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister confirm that the Government have just announced that they are going to spend so...

Lord McNally | 744 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

That is the point that I was going to make. The noble Lord is extremely good at self-righteous de...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 744 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

My criticism was of the Government, and the Minister speaks on behalf of the Government.

Lord McNally | 744 cc1093-4 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord knows how Governments work, and spending reviews are carried out by individual gov...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 744 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, will he answer the question that I think was put by the noble L...

Lord McNally | 744 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

I think a rough estimate is that it is probably less than £1 million. It was a very small concess...

Baroness Whitaker | 744 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, I am not sure that he quite dealt with the point made by the nob...

Lord McNally | 744 cc1094-5 (Link to this contribution)

No, that is why I want to invite a discussion. The term “access to justice” is bandied around ver...

Lord Richard | 744 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

I am flattered that the noble Lord should find me menacing. Does he not see that there is a clear...

Lord McNally | 744 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

Access to justice may also be by other forms of advice. Not all advice is legal advice.

Lord Richard | 744 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

When a tribunal is involved, it is not a question of advice but of having to go to a tribunal to ...

Lord McNally | 744 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

Built into the system are corrections to the tribunal. The noble Lord will know that the tribunal...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 744 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene again on my noble friend, but it is not fair to say that the tribunals in...

Lord Bach | 744 c1095 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I thank in particular the noble...

Lord McNally | 744 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord give way to allow me to make one point? I know that he wants to make a politi...

Lord McNally | 744 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

Well, all right, he wants to make a point. I was at a call centre on aid the other day. I listene...

Lord Bach | 744 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister, and I am grateful for what he said earlier. There is £1.7 billion ...

Lord McNally | 744 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene and I do not want to prolong the debate. However, as the noble Lord knows...

Lord McNally | 744 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

Oh yes; it is four-square. The House took a decision and the decision stood. That was the case wi...

Lord Bach | 744 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that the Minister can really get away with that. The Government changed their poli...

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