I thank the Minister for his very clear explanation of what is in front of us. I did not find it quite as straightforward as the suggestion that complexity is avoided because quite a number of complexities will remain. There will be not only the Trading Standards offices of local authorities but a National Trading Standards Board as well; the Office of Fair Trading will retain some powers; Citizens Advice will have—I agree with the Minister on this—a helpful addition to its services which is, as he rightly said, well appreciated; and there will be the Consumer Protection Partnership, which I do not fully understand yet. So there are lot of different people involved and a lot of different lines to be drawn as to their responsibilities.
However, I would ask the noble Viscount about one or two particular matters. My text, as it were, for this part of what I want to say is, first, the Explanatory Note on the back of the order and what is called the explanatory document—the rather longer paper concerned with public bodies.
In the Explanatory Note on the order, the sixth paragraph—the paragraphs are not numbered—refers to Article 9. It is concerned with enforcers, who will no longer have to consult with the OFT; they will, instead, merely be required to notify the OFT. That, presumably, is in accordance with the Government’s wish to take away the responsibilities of the OFT in overall consumer protection. The Government are not arguing that they are not doing this and the OFT is losing its supervisory role.
What is most important is that in transferring enforcement, particularly to Trading Standards officers, there is to be set up—I should say it has already been set up—the National Trading Standards Board. Paragraph 7.7 of the rather large explanatory document states:
“The NTSB consists of members of Trading Standards officers”.
It means—perhaps it is a matter of semantics—a number of Trading Standards officers representing some local authorities. How they are to be chosen and so on, I do not know but, anyway, the NTSB is certainly to have a national role.
I asked at some stage of the Bill, but did not get an answer, whether that included not only Trading Standards officers—chosen I do not know how—but representative members of local authorities who, at the moment, have a role in relation to Trading Standards officers because Trading Standards officers in each local authority are accountable to councillors. So I am not sure about that.
Paragraph 4.9 of the explanatory document states:
“The Order also makes an amendment … to provide that the OFT will no longer need to consult with enforcers … Instead enforcers will simply be required to notify the OFT”.
As far as I can see, something has gone wrong with the semantics there as to what is intended. Perhaps what is intended is simply that enforcers—meaning Trading Standards officers—will simply be required to notify rather than be required to consult and listen to what the OFT has to say. If you consult, you are supposed to listen to whoever you are consulting. If you do away with consulting and have simply notification, there is no longer any need to take any notice of what you are advised. Is that what is intended? If it is, then, of course, the reduction or removal of the OFT’s supervisory role is much more deep and profound.
The only other matter I wish to mention is that in the Explanatory Note to the order. After dealing with Article 9, on which I have just been concentrating, there is a reference to Articles 10 to 13 amending the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999. It provides that the OFT will simply have a power rather than a duty to enforce those regulations. That means, again, a considerable reduction in the OFT’s role. I am not sure whether the Government intended that because I thought they wanted the OFT to have a particular responsibility with regard to these unfair trading regulations. I may have got that wrong.
What we have today fills out the broad statements in the Bill and one needs to get the phrases right and to understand them. I will be glad if the noble Viscount will answer some of the points that I have made.