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Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 12 December 2012, in the House of Lords.
Clauses 20 and 21 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
741 cc313-374GC 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill 2012-13. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 October 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0026
Monday, 17 December 2012
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0028
Monday, 17 December 2012
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0027
Monday, 17 December 2012
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Viscount Ullswater | 741 c313GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the House, the Committee will adjourn for 10 minutes.

C...

Lord Whitty | 741 c313GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

24ZA: Clause 20, page 14, line 10, after “competition,” insert “...


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Lord Whitty | 741 cc313-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to a part of the Bill which, at Second Reading, I said I regarded as in the...

Lord Lucas | 741 cc315-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I address my amendment in this group, Amendment 24ZCA. I am not sure that we really kno...

Lord Borrie | 741 c316GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a useful amendment for my noble friend Lord Whitty to move at the outset becaus...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc317-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their suggested amendments and I appreciate the sentiments expressed by t...

Lord Whitty | 741 cc319-320GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken, in particular the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, beca...

Lord Whitty | 741 c320GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

24ZB: Clause 20, page 14, line 11, at end insert—

“( ) The...

Lord Whitty | 741 cc320-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment puts the consumer interest at the centre of everything that we are doing...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 741 c322GC (Link to this contribution)

I would like to make clear at this point that I agree with every single word that the noble Lord ...

Baroness Crawley | 741 cc322-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as president of the Trading Standards Institute—excuse my cold—I agree very much with m...

Lord Borrie | 741 cc323-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with pretty well everything that has just been said by my noble frien...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc324-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments recognise the fundamental importance of consumer support and consumer ...

Lord Whitty | 741 c326GC (Link to this contribution)

Either I mis-expressed myself or the noble Viscount has misunderstood. Section 6, which deals wit...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc326-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I note the point that the noble Lord has made and I will come back to that technical issue shortl...

Lord Whitty | 741 cc327-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister and other noble Lords who have spoken. I thank, in particular, the...

Viscount Eccles | 741 cc329-330GC (Link to this contribution)

I have found it pretty difficult to be sure that I understand exactly what the Bill is trying to ...

Lord Razzall | 741 c330GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I obviously listened to what my noble friend Lord Eccles said at Second Reading when he...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c330GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may just answer that question. I do not accept that, no.

Lord Razzall | 741 c330GC (Link to this contribution)

Well, that seems to be the fundamental difference between my noble friend and other members of th...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 741 cc330-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Eccles for tabling this clause stand part debate....

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 741 cc333-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I start on the detail of what has just been discussed, I welcome the noble Visco...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc334-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I say at the outset that I am very grateful for the comments of the noble Lord, Lord St...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 741 c336GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to ensure that the record is correct. The previous figure of £10.6 million has now been su...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 c337GC (Link to this contribution)

I note what the noble Lord said, and I will return to him in writing. I commend this clause to th...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c337GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may reply to the Minister. I thank everyone who has taken part in the debate. Although ...

Lord Razzall | 741 c338GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the noble Viscount’s flow. What is his answer to the argument that all th...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c338GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have looked quite carefully at what has been said, and it has been quite qualified. I...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc338-9GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

24ZD: After Clause 20, insert the following ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc339-341GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the purpose of this amendment, perhaps we can accept that we are going to have a CM...

Lord Borrie | 741 c341GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that the Committee should accept, as a matter of principle, the point that my n...

Lord Skelmersdale | 741 c341GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the Minister responds, I note that the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, has tabled A...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc341-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, for this amendment, which seeks to establish a...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c342GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that response and my noble friend Lord Borrie and the noble Lord, Lord S...

Lord Skelmersdale | 741 c342GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the noble Baroness has finished with her remarks on me, does that mean that she inte...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc342-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I am certainly not. I am suggesting that you need a person on the board with experience—I will co...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 741 c343GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment perhaps I may ask her a question arising from t...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c343GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for those comments. The Regulated Industries Unit will be extraordinar...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c344GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Eccles

24A: Schedule 4, page 87, line 22, leave out sub-paragraph (...

Viscount Eccles | 741 cc344-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is another attempt to be reassured and comforted. There has been a lot of talk abo...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c345GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has raised some really important issues. Certainly we would like to hear...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc345-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments affect the provisions that provide for a partial overlap of the CMA bo...

Viscount Eccles | 741 cc346-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid that I am not comforted by that description, least of all by the even flow ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c348GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

24AA: Schedule 4, page 87, line 22, at end i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc348-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the first amendment in the group seeks simply to have the appointment of the chair appr...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc349-350GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, for her amendments, which propose changes to S...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c351GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. The words “not necessary in the Bill” must be in the word processo...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c351GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

24BA: Schedule 4, page 87, line 35, at end i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc351-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the good news for the Committee is that this is the last it will hear from me for a bit...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc352-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 24BA adds a requirement to appoint at least one person with consumer represen...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc353-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. How interesting it is that we can have sector specialists such as ...

Lord Mitchell | 741 c354GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Mitchell

24BC: Schedule 4, page 89, line 31, at end insert—

“11A ...

Lord Mitchell | 741 cc354-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, despite the prompting of my noble friend Lady Hayter, this will not be a quake-making d...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc356-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for these amendments, initiated by the noble Lord, Lord Mitchell, which h...

Lord Mitchell | 741 c358GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his comprehensive reply. There is a need for a dedicated unit; small and...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c358GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

24BD: Schedule 4, page 89, line 39, at end i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc358-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments speak for themselves, so I hope that I can be brief. They are to remin...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc359-360GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful once again to the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, for the suggested amendments. Amendm...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c360GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. I assume from what he just said that the requirement on the OFT to...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c360GC (Link to this contribution)

In case Hansard did not record that, the answer was a very welcome “yes”, for which I thank him.<...

Lord Whitty | 741 c361GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

24BFA: Schedule 4, page 91, line 27, leave out paragraph (g)

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Lord Whitty | 741 cc361-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to what may prove next week to be an interesting area: the relationship bet...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc362-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for tabling Amendments 24BFA and 24BG.

Amendment 24BFA...

Lord Whitty | 741 cc363-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid I do not really accept either of those two propositions. On the financial s...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c365GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

24BH: Schedule 4, page 91, line 27, at end i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc365-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, despite the financial sector nominally being competitive—in that there is a choice of b...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 c366GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, for these amendments.

To be effective, the CMA nee...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 cc366-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. There is one bit of that which I can accept—that it may not be nec...

Viscount Eccles | 741 cc367-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a draconian clause. It follows a scheme of the Public Bodies Act in abolishing ...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 741 cc368-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Committee will be delighted to hear that because I have already made a number of po...

Lord Deben | 741 cc369-370GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I refer to my entry in the House of Lords register of interests. This gives me a good o...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 741 c370GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall try to resist temptation. As to spectacles, of course it was the consumers who most wante...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c370GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister replies, I would like to thank the noble Baroness for her comment. There may ...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 741 c370GC (Link to this contribution)

To add to what my noble friend has said—we are fortunate to have him here today—I would like to k...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 cc371-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the CMA will be equipped with a wide range of tools to remedy anti-competitive practice...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, could I ask that my questions that have not been answered are d...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 741 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

I did not necessarily expect to answer all my noble friend’s questions. However, I have attempted...

Viscount Eccles | 741 c372GC (Link to this contribution)

For the last time, the fundamental question is: are the Government sure that the supposed benefit...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 741 c374GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Tuesday next week at...

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