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Crime and Courts Bill [HL]

Schedules 16 and 17 agreed to. Part 2 of 2.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
740 cc1479-1506 
Session
2012-13
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

23: Schedule 17, page 261, line 32, leave out...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 cc1479-1481 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 35, 45, 46 and 47. These amendments would broadly remo...


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Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 740 c1480 (Link to this contribution)

I am not getting at my noble friend because he referred to my intervention last time, but I hope ...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1480 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend is, as always, entirely on the ball. My amendment is wrong in exactly t...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 cc1480-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 44 standing in my name, but I want to speak to Amendment 23 a...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 740 c1482 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. Does he not have a residual conc...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 cc1483-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am not concerned about that for this reason. There are two very powerful safeguards in the Bill...

Lord Beecham | 740 cc1484-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at Second Reading I expressed misgivings about the introduction of this new concept whi...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1485 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord referred to someone buying themselves out of trouble, or whatever it may be. It is...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1485 (Link to this contribution)

I am talking about public perception, which might well be less grounded in those more fundamental...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 740 cc1485-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, forgive me for speaking after the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, but I hope to add a few wor...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the broad support for the introduction of DPAs. I align myself with the words...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

More than once in this debate it has been said that this is an entirely novel approach. I invite ...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 740 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

That applies in a case that has been tried in open court and a conviction has been made. It is va...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 cc1487-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for his intervention. As I said in my opening comments, it is not somethi...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1488 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear the assurances that the Government are listening and I beg leave to withdraw the...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1488 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

24: Schedule 17, page 262, line 6, at end ins...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 cc1488-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 24, 25, 26 and 27. That suite of amendments has one purpose...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 cc1489-1490 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make some observations about the noble Lord’s amendments in this group. I shall ...

Lord Beecham | 740 cc1490-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I broadly sympathise with the amendments of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Goldsmith,...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may help. Amendment 26 is part of a suite of amendments. Amendment 24 provides for the ...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

I will not take the time to check that. I shall accept the noble Lord’s remarks and leave it to t...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

On this occasion I am certain that I have got the drafting right.

Lord Beecham | 740 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

Well, there is a first time for everything.

Lord McNally | 740 cc1491-3 (Link to this contribution)

Dear, dear, dear. I noticed that my noble friend Lord Ahmad at one point referred to the noble an...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may say a sentence because it may help the noble Lord and his officials. I had in mind ...

Lord McNally | 740 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

That is extremely helpful. With my advisers, I will look at the points that the noble and learned...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

In relation to my amendments, I understand what the Minister has said. The only point I would mak...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1494 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Beecham

28A: Schedule 17, page 262, line 23, at end insert—

“( ) ...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1494 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am of course short, and I will now be brief. The amendment echoes the concerns that s...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 cc1494-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his opening remarks where he said he was short so would be b...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

I am disappointed with the Minister’s response, although it was commendably brief, as he promised...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

30: Schedule 17, page 262, line 29, leave out “general princ...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 30, I will also speak to Amendment 32. Amendment 30 deals with the ...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1496 (Link to this contribution)

I have a short but important point to make on Amendment 31 which stands in my name. As it stands,...

Lord Beecham | 740 cc1496-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I certainly endorse my noble and learned friend’s remarks and support his amendment. I ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 cc1497-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in providing for a code of practice for prosecutors in relation to deferred prosecution...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1498 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that. In view of the hour, I beg leave to withdraw the amendme...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1498 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Goldsmith

33: Schedule 17, page 263, line 11, leave out paragraph 7

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Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1498 (Link to this contribution)

I will also speak to Amendments 34, 36, 37, 39 and 40, which are all in my name. This group cover...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 cc1499-1500 (Link to this contribution)

The quality, as my noble friend says, is however very high. The way the Bill is structured is tha...

Baroness D'Souza | 740 c1500 (Link to this contribution)

I must advise your Lordships that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 34 and...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 740 c1500 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak briefly to Amendments 38 and 41. Amendment 38 is about public final hearings. Just ...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1500 (Link to this contribution)

I have a good deal of sympathy with the amendments in this group tabled by my noble and learned f...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 cc1500-3 (Link to this contribution)

Transparency and openness are key to the operation of the new deferred prosecution agreement proc...

Lord Goldsmith | 740 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for that detailed reply. I want to study carefully in H...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

42: Schedule 17, page 267, line 24, at beginning insert “any...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, paragraph 13 of the schedule provides for the use of material in criminal proceedings. ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 cc1503-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment relates to paragraph 13 of Schedule 17, which deals with the use of mate...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that that amounted to a yes in response to my request for assurance. I beg leav...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

43: Schedule 17, page 267, line 36, at end insert—

“Tr...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a number of requirements may be made under paragraph 5, including imposing a fine or as...

Lord Beecham | 740 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

We wholeheartedly support this amendment.

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 740 cc1504-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Hamwee for drawing the Committee’s attention to this issue...

Baroness Hamwee | 740 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course I will withdraw the amendment. I understand that tax is complicated and that ...

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