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Tobacco and Vapes Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 26 November 2024, in the House of Commons, led by Wes Streeting. The answering member was Edward Argar.
Second reading. Agreed to on division (415 to 47). Programme motion. Agreed to on question. Money resolution. King's recommendation signified. Agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
757 cc683-671 
Session
2024-25
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Tobacco and Vapes Bill 2024-25
Tuesday, 5 November 2024
Bills
House of Commons
Tobacco and Vapes Bill 2024-25
Friday, 22 November 2024
Research briefings
Proceeding contributions
Wes Streeting | 757 c683 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Today, across the UK, 350 young peo...

Desmond Swayne | 757 c683 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Secretary of State imagine the plight of a shop assistant, some decades hence, when a mid...


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Wes Streeting | 757 c683 (Link to this contribution)

I can not only imagine it, but I recently experienced a similar situation. There I was in Barking...

Simon Hoare | 757 c684 (Link to this contribution)

If only proof of age was still asked of me.

The Secretary of State knows that I support the...

Wes Streeting | 757 c684 (Link to this contribution)

I was going to address that point later in my speech, but let me address it now. It is not often ...

Chris Vince | 757 c684 (Link to this contribution)

I will not comment on how young I look, but I still get asked for ID when buying non-alcoholic wi...

Wes Streeting | 757 cc684-5 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I am really proud of the impact that the last Labour Governme...

Layla Moran | 757 c685 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Secretary of State give way?

Wes Streeting | 757 c686 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to the Chair of the Health and Social Care Committee.

Layla Moran | 757 c686 (Link to this contribution)

In the spirit of cross-party working, I want to congratulate Members on the Conservative Benches ...

Wes Streeting | 757 c686 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise that there are people who have the freedom and the liberty to smoke today, the vast m...

Andrew Rosindell | 757 c686 (Link to this contribution)

Surely the Secretary of State realises that banning things rarely works. When tobacco was banned ...

Wes Streeting | 757 c686 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the intervention, because I anticipate that there will be similar arguments mad...

Jonathan Davies | 757 c686 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Wes Streeting | 757 cc686-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will just respond to the point made by the hon. Member for Romford (Andrew Rosindell).

Th...

Jonathan Davies | 757 c687 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State stole my line when he said that there is no freedom in addiction. I just w...

Wes Streeting | 757 c687 (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly come on to the action that we are taking on vaping, and the case for it. I welco...

Christopher Chope | 757 c687 (Link to this contribution)

The argument that the Secretary of State puts forward is essentially one for banning smoking alto...

Wes Streeting | 757 cc687-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman was not accusing me of misleading the House. The argument that ...

Anna Dixon | 757 c688 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on introducing this once-in-a generation public health measur...

Wes Streeting | 757 c688 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I am afraid that one of my first experiences of death was wat...

Wes Streeting | 757 cc688-9 (Link to this contribution)

I must make progress, otherwise we will not hear from anyone else in this debate—and I think that...

Wera Hobhouse | 757 c689 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether the Secretary of State will still be in the Chamber when I talk about Spice...

Wes Streeting | 757 c690 (Link to this contribution)

We want to work in a genuinely collaborative and cross-party way, and I know that is true right a...

Wes Streeting | 757 c690 (Link to this contribution)

In that spirit, I will give way to the hon. Gentleman—and then to some of my hon. Friends.

Julian Lewis | 757 c690 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Secretary of State tell us if there is any place for vapes as a step-down, in the context...

Wes Streeting | 757 c690 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Member is right to make that distinction. As a stop-smoking tool, vaping has a par...

Peter Prinsley | 757 c690 (Link to this contribution)

As an ear, nose and throat surgeon, I can attest to the absolutely desperate trouble that cigaret...

Wes Streeting | 757 cc690-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention, not least because of the expertise that he...

Robin Swann | 757 c691 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for making a number of times the point that this is a truly nation...

Wes Streeting | 757 cc691-2 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very helpful intervention because it gives me the opportunity to say thank you to my co...

Caroline Nokes | 757 c692 (Link to this contribution)

I call the shadow Secretary of State.

3.45 pm

Edward Argar | 757 cc692-5 (Link to this contribution)

I do not always do this, but I express my gratitude to the Secretary of State for the tone he has...

Peter Swallow | 757 c695 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening very carefully to what the right hon. Gentleman has to say. Some 13% of adults in ...

Edward Argar | 757 cc695-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for most of what he just said. I will address precisely his p...

Beccy Cooper | 757 c696 (Link to this contribution)

Will the shadow Secretary of State give way?

Edward Argar | 757 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I will briefly, because I have one sentence to go.

Beccy Cooper | 757 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the shadow Secretary of State. As a public health doctor, I am delighted to hear him spea...

Edward Argar | 757 c696 (Link to this contribution)

That will depend on whether the Minister for public health gives the promises I seek that he will...

Mary Kelly Foy | 757 cc696-8 (Link to this contribution)

I declare an interest as the co-chair of the all-party parliamentary group on smoking and health....

Judith Cummins | 757 c698 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Liberal Democrat spokesperson.

4.9 pm

Helen Morgan | 757 cc698-701 (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm that it has been a very long time since anyone has asked me for ID to make a purcha...

Mary Glindon | 757 cc701-2 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for the fact that I may not be able to stay in the Chamber for the winding-up speeche...

Simon Hoare | 757 cc702-4 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this Bill, and I think the country should welcome it and salute the Government for effe...

James McMurdock | 757 c704 (Link to this contribution)

I have an interesting thought on the supply and demand issue, and the challenges it will pose fro...

Simon Hoare | 757 cc704-5 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman takes me neatly to my closing point. If I understand him correctly, he is maki...

Simon Hoare | 757 c705 (Link to this contribution)

Here is a man who adores order nearly as much as he adores Margaret Thatcher.

Andrew Rosindell | 757 c705 (Link to this contribution)

One of my reasons for getting involved in politics is that I believe in a free society, and I bel...

Simon Hoare | 757 cc705-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point, and I readily accept that it has a huge intellectual und...

Danny Chambers | 757 c706 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that we have an NHS and a Government who are expected to provide an...

Simon Hoare | 757 c706 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point. One can nudge, prod, push and exhort as much as one can, ...

Andrew Rosindell | 757 c706 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will my hon. Friend give way?

Simon Hoare | 757 c706 (Link to this contribution)

I will not, I am afraid, because I want to conclude. The disproportionate hammer blow is felt by ...

Tristan Osborne | 757 cc706-7 (Link to this contribution)

Like previous speakers, I have not been challenged on my age, even though I use moisturiser; perh...

Andrew Rosindell | 757 c707 (Link to this contribution)

On that basis, would the hon. Gentleman also ban alcohol? Would he ban all types of unhealthy foo...

Tristan Osborne | 757 cc707-8 (Link to this contribution)

We have age restrictions on alcohol sales and the Bill proposes doing the same. Similarly, for ot...

Vikki Slade | 757 c708 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the upper-age escalator could prove difficult later on, partic...

Tristan Osborne | 757 c708 (Link to this contribution)

The licensing regime will be looked at in detail, but the reality is that, when I am buying alcoh...

Bob Blackman | 757 cc708-712 (Link to this contribution)

May I declare my interest as a former chair, for nine years, of the all-party parliamentary group...

Jenny Riddell-Carpenter | 757 cc709-713 (Link to this contribution)

I start by welcoming this Bill, which will create the first smokefree generation. Children turnin...

Judith Cummins | 757 c713 (Link to this contribution)

After the next speech, I will impose a six-minute time limit.

5.9 pm

James MacCleary | 757 c713 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate about a Bill that seeks to change the w...

Jim Shannon | 757 c714 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is probably aware of this, but there are a lot of safety issues with vapes and...

James MacCleary | 757 cc714-5 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Indeed, my hon. Friend the Member for Bath (Wera Hob...

Beccy Cooper | 757 c715 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to take part in this debate and to hear the broad consensus across the House on...

Robin Swann | 757 c715 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Member agree that that is also why it is important that we control vending machine ...

Beccy Cooper | 757 c716 (Link to this contribution)

I wholeheartedly agree. Vending machines are often forgotten, but they are used for sales and mar...

Wera Hobhouse | 757 c716 (Link to this contribution)

We should also look at online sales. A lot of young people purchase products online. May I ask th...

Beccy Cooper | 757 c716 (Link to this contribution)

I do not disagree. The Bill will give the Government far greater control over the marketing side ...

Seamus Logan | 757 cc716-7 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak as a not yet reformed smoker, being in the pre-contemplative phase of my addictio...

Darren Paffey | 757 cc717-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am proud to be part of a Government who are creating the first smokefree generation and protect...

Wera Hobhouse | 757 cc718-720 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Government on their very strong stance on tobacco and protecting children, but...

Andrew Cooper | 757 cc720-1 (Link to this contribution)

This piece of legislation carries immense significance for the health of our nation, and I welcom...

Robin Swann | 757 cc721-2 (Link to this contribution)

I noticed from the opening comments that the Opposition have a free vote on the legislation, as d...

Alex Barros-Curtis | 757 cc722-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow such powerful contributions from Members on both sides of the House—fr...

Jim Allister | 757 cc724-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will vote for this Bill. I admit that I am sceptical about the enforceability of the age escala...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 c725 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. and learned Gentleman for giving way. I fully understand his concern. T...

Jim Allister | 757 c725 (Link to this contribution)

It gives me no assurance if the Government’s commitment is to ensure compliance with the Windsor ...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 c725 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to detain the House, but I make it clear that this is a United Kingdom law. It covers ...

Jim Allister | 757 c725 (Link to this contribution)

The previous Government told this House—and Government lawyers probably said the same—that the Rw...

Jim Dickson | 757 cc725-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to speak in this debate on a Bill that delivers on our manifesto commitment to ...

Lee Dillon | 757 cc616-728 (Link to this contribution)

I was a smoker for 15 years, I have vaped for 12 years and I have three children under 12, who I ...

Nusrat Ghani | 757 cc620-2 (Link to this contribution)

We have three remaining contributions from Back-Bench Members. This is fair notice for colleagues...

Kirith Entwistle | 757 cc622-729 (Link to this contribution)

I declare that I am a member of the responsible vaping APPG. This is a long overdue and important...

Max Wilkinson | 757 c729 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady share my concern that there is a real problem with vapes being used in the coe...

Kirith Entwistle | 757 cc627-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for his intervention and, yes, I share those concerns quite deeply.

Jonathan Brash | 757 cc628-730 (Link to this contribution)

It is a rare thing in politics to have a moment when there is an absolute right thing to do, but ...

Joe Robertson | 757 c730 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member talks about choice. I agree with what he has said so far, but does he agree that,...

Jonathan Brash | 757 cc631-2 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member is completely correct in what he says, and it is the proportionate way to do it. ...

Phil Brickell | 757 cc632-732 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to place on the record my support for the Bill, which the Government are right to de...

John Hayes | 757 c732 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right about illegal tobacco and other substances. It is really i...

Phil Brickell | 757 cc634-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Member for his contribution. I will take assurance from the Minister on th...

Nusrat Ghani | 757 c635 (Link to this contribution)

We come to the shadow Minister.

6.21 pm

Caroline Johnson | 757 cc635-733 (Link to this contribution)

Prevention is better than cure. As we have heard, smoking is a cause of many premature deaths and...

John Hayes | 757 c733 (Link to this contribution)

I very rarely disagree with my hon. Friend. She is of course right about vaping, the effect that ...

Caroline Johnson | 757 cc642-734 (Link to this contribution)

The challenge is that if we were to ban it altogether, we could risk criminalising people who wer...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 c734 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to close this debate on behalf of the Government. I commend my hon. Friends the ...

Afzal Khan | 757 c735 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this Bill. Some 6,000 children in Greater Manchester take up smoking each year, allowin...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 cc647-736 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that contribution, not least because it allows me to place on record t...

Jamie Stone | 757 c649 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sorry that I was not in the Chamber for the beginning of the debate. I have very strong...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 cc650-1 (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Gentleman has just talked himself into a job. He is absolutely right that the be...

Bob Blackman | 757 c651 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister consider ensuring that the fines are raised by at least inflation each year? Fi...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 cc651-737 (Link to this contribution)

We have already doubled the fine proposed in the previous Government’s Bill, which is a step. I l...

Tristan Osborne | 757 c737 (Link to this contribution)

When I was on a council, I had a portfolio managing licensing. Councils already manage significan...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 c653 (Link to this contribution)

Local government will take the lead on this matter, and we will consult widely on how we bring fo...

Jonathan Brash | 757 c657 (Link to this contribution)

We have mentioned the fact that local government is responsible for public health. I have had our...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 cc660-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. From the engagement that I have had with members across all p...

Amanda Martin | 757 c662 (Link to this contribution)

As a former teacher, I hope that the Government are working across Departments. Will we work with...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 c738 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely crucial. With this legislation, we have to make sure that we do not take our f...

Johanna Baxter | 757 c665 (Link to this contribution)

My constituents in Paisley and Renfrewshire South need a health service that moves from sickness ...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 c666 (Link to this contribution)

That is an important point, and it allows me to place on record my thanks to the Health Ministers...

Andrew Gwynne | 757 cc668-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way now, as I have to end my speech. I know that you are keeping a careful eye on...

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