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Debates on delegated legislation on Thursday, 1 February 2024, in the House of Commons, led by Chris Heaton-Harris. The answering member was Hilary Benn.
Motion that the draft Windsor Framework (Constitutional Status of Northern Ireland) Regulations 2024, which were laid before this House on 31 January, be approved. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
744 cc1019-1043 
Session
2023-24
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Windsor Framework (Constitutional Status of Northern Ireland) Regulations
Wednesday, 31 January 2024
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Lindsay Hoyle | 744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to motion 1, on the draft Windsor Framework (Constitutional Status of Northern Irelan...

744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

Object.


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Lindsay Hoyle | 744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

Since there has been an objection to the two motions being debated together, we will take them se...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That the draft Windsor Framework (Constitutional Status of Northern Ireland)...

John Redwood | 744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

If the Chancellor of the Exchequer wishes to lower the VAT rate or to take something out of VAT a...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

On the example my right hon. Friend has given of VAT, that has just been done for a number of dif...

Conor McGinn | 744 c1020 (Link to this contribution)

May I sincerely recognise the efforts of the right hon. Gentleman, his team and his colleagues in...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1021 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with the hon. Gentleman. It has been a pleasure to work with all the party lea...

Colum Eastwood | 744 c1021 (Link to this contribution)

There was a memorial service on Tuesday for somebody who I think never gets enough credit for his...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1021 (Link to this contribution)

I disagree with what the hon. Gentleman said at the end of his intervention and completely agree ...

Julian Smith | 744 c1021 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Secretary of State give a list or summary of what those who are against the right hon. Me...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1021 (Link to this contribution)

I would love to be able to outline anything. I have a piece of paper with that on it; oh, it is b...

Gregory Campbell | 744 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

I am holding up the piece of paper.

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the back of a postage stamp is too big to write what they have achieved. The rig...

Sammy Wilson | 744 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State indicates that there are now “vital democratic safeguards”—he used the plu...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

Yes: we have the withdrawal Act itself, and the right hon. Gentleman is sitting in the place that...

Edward Leigh | 744 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

The ability of Ministers to govern is already severely constrained by things like the Human Right...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1022 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his question, which has been put before. It was put yesterday an...

William Cash | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

As my right hon. Friend may expect, I shall now refer to section 38 and ask him a question about ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

I note my hon. Friend’s point. As I said yesterday, I hope he recognises what we are doing in thi...

Colum Eastwood | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

From listening to the Secretary of State and reading the Command Paper, we would perhaps think th...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, nothing that we are doing here changes that fundamental principle. The hon. Gentleman is abs...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

Further to the point made by the hon. Member for Foyle (Colum Eastwood), the difficulty was that ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and I think the right hon. Gentleman and the hon. Member for Foyle (Colum Eastwood) are maki...

Peter Bottomley | 744 c1023 (Link to this contribution)

As one who in living memory served as a Minister responsible for the environment and for agricult...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1024 (Link to this contribution)

Anyone who ever becomes Father of the House is obviously wise and well experienced and that was a...

Theresa Villiers | 744 c1024 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State has repeatedly said that the deal we are looking at today will not prevent...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 cc1024-5 (Link to this contribution)

If my right hon. Friend goes through paragraphs 136 to 141 of the Command Paper, she will see us ...

Stephen Farry | 744 c1025 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Secretary of State provide a little further clarity about the independent review of the W...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1025 (Link to this contribution)

I can give the hon. Gentleman that confirmation. It will be for Ministers to make sure that the p...

Paul Girvan | 744 c1025 (Link to this contribution)

On the regulatory issues in Northern Ireland, several laws have been passed in Europe—we hear tha...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1025 (Link to this contribution)

The review will be based on the entirety of law, but essentially it has to look forward. The hon....

Gavin Robinson | 744 c1026 (Link to this contribution)

It is worth making the point that while the Secretary of State is right in his response on the re...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1026 (Link to this contribution)

I could not have put it better myself. The hon. Gentleman is knowledgeable about the subject and ...

William Cash | 744 c1026 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend, who himself was on the European Scrutiny Committee, recognise that we ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1026 (Link to this contribution)

I had the pleasure of serving for five years on the European Scrutiny Committee under the wise ch...

Jim Shannon | 744 cc1026-7 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State and everyone on these Benches will know that over the past two years, I ha...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1027 (Link to this contribution)

Actually, for an element of law that would be triggered by the Stormont brake, I think the bigges...

Sammy Wilson | 744 c1027 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State is at odds in making that argument. That is one argument that the Minister...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1027 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the right hon. Gentleman is completely wrong. I know that he has written to my r...

Julian Smith | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

We are obviously debating the regulations, but may I point right hon. and hon. Members to annex A...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for making that point. He is right that a lot of noise and heat have...

Jim Shannon | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for being generous in giving way. As he knows, I always try to be ...

John Redwood | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

Someone wanting to send goods from GB to NI would naturally expect to use the new internal market...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

It is the UK Government in that area.

Ian Jnr Paisley | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point, in respect of paragraph 96 of the Command Paper, will the Secretary of Sta...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

We will give legal direction to the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs on t...

Colum Eastwood | 744 c1028 (Link to this contribution)

We all accept that the DUP had a particular issue about all this, but does the Secretary of State...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1029 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that point; he makes it fairly. To be honest with him, there was o...

Colum Eastwood | 744 c1029 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way again. I think it has to be understood tha...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1029 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is a friend of mine, so I hope that he does not mind my disagreeing with him o...

Robert Buckland | 744 c1029 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for being so generous. Does it not all boil down to this? A...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 cc1029-1030 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my right hon. and learned Friend, the Chair of the Northern Ireland Affairs Committe...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1030 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for his explanation of the first set of regulations that ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 c1030 (Link to this contribution)

Some suggest that the Acts of Union should be as they were in 1801, but my hon. Friend the Member...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1030 (Link to this contribution)

I am a teetotaller, so perhaps I do not feel the suffering in that example in the same way as oth...

Sammy Wilson | 744 c1030 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Member recognise the difference between a tariff being put on by this Parliam...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1031 (Link to this contribution)

We have seen quite a lot of disruption to arrangements in recent years, have we not? The point I ...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1031 (Link to this contribution)

I see that the Secretary of State is nodding. It is also important to remind ourselves of the sig...

William Cash | 744 c1031 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that there is a distinction between new and amended legislat...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1031 (Link to this contribution)

I take that point, but we are talking about two separate categories: one is a long list relating ...

Stephen Farry | 744 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

Does the shadow Secretary of State recognise that there is a different school of thought from som...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member makes an extremely powerful and useful point. The businesses that I have spoken t...

John Redwood | 744 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point, which is a very good one, would the EU not decide to use its powers if Sto...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

The Stormont brake was the result of a negotiation between the Government and the European Union....

Julian Smith | 744 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

What people have missed over the past few weeks is the cross-party support for both the Windsor f...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1032 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman makes an extremely powerful point. I hope everyone will notice the near—...

Edward Leigh | 744 c1033 (Link to this contribution)

I am not trying to rail against reality; I am just seeking the truth. Would it be a fair summing-...

Hilary Benn | 744 c1033 (Link to this contribution)

It is very kind of the right hon. Gentleman to say that we are intensely relaxed about the prospe...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 744 cc1033-4 (Link to this contribution)

There is obviously a big time pressure on this debate. I want to bring the Secretary of State bac...

Robert Buckland | 744 c1034 (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly bear that exhortation in mind, Madam Deputy Speaker.

This debate has prope...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 744 c1034 (Link to this contribution)

A lot of this is quite surreal, because it falls into the grounds of piffle. I remember sitting i...

Robert Buckland | 744 cc1034-5 (Link to this contribution)

I feel the emotion and hear the proper points that the hon. Gentleman makes. The process became t...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 744 c1035 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Scottish National party spokesperson.

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Richard Thomson | 744 cc1035-6 (Link to this contribution)

My party and I have never made any secret of our disagreement with Brexit and the manner in which...

Gregory Campbell | 744 c1036 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman says that he does not begrudge us the achievement of some of the objectives th...

Richard Thomson | 744 cc1036-7 (Link to this contribution)

The border is certainly a complex one to try to police, and that has been at the forefront of man...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 744 c1037 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Let me once again emphasise the need for brevity so that we can get the majority of people...

William Cash | 744 cc1037-8 (Link to this contribution)

Section 38 of the European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Act 2020 prescribes that parliamentary so...

Gavin Robinson | 744 c1038 (Link to this contribution)

The Chairman of the European Scrutiny Committee, who is my friend, has outlined his concern about...

William Cash | 744 c1038 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely glad to hear the hon. Gentleman make that point.

To conclude, I simply say t...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 cc1038-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Stone (Sir William Cash); we truly value his contin...

Jim Shannon | 744 c1039 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend and colleague for bringing that forward. He is absolutely right to s...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 cc1039-1040 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. He restates a point he made earlier to the Secretary...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 744 c1040 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the leader of the party for his comments. This is crucial: it affects every single person...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 c1040 (Link to this contribution)

I need add nothing to the point made by my hon. Friend. We welcome the explicit reference in the ...

Colum Eastwood | 744 c1040 (Link to this contribution)

May I put it on record that I think the right hon. Gentleman has done a lot of good work over the...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 c1041 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member has made his point with fortitude and determination, but he will understand that ...

Robin Millar | 744 c1041 (Link to this contribution)

I echo the right hon. Gentleman’s sentiments about paragraph 47 in annex A. I want to comment on ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 c1041 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for his intervention, his continuing interest in Northern Ireland and his...

Sammy Wilson | 744 c1041 (Link to this contribution)

I acknowledge the point made by my right hon. Friend, but does he also accept that, in proposed n...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 744 cc1041-2 (Link to this contribution)

I urge my right hon. Friend to read all the proposals. If he does, he will see that a new statuto...

Julian Smith | 744 c1042 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the nationalist and other parties who have been patient during the process, and ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 cc1042-3 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the house, I will answer a few of the points that have been raised. We have hea...

Carla Lockhart | 744 c1043 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Member makes reference to the fact that, within the legislation, there is now a sa...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 744 c1043 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her question. Before I answer it, may I say that I owe her an apology, ...

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