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Online Safety Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 12 September 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Paul Scully.
Programme (No. 5) motion. Agreed to on question. Consideration of Lords amendments. Clause 82, amendment (a) to Lords amendment 182, considered with further Lords amendments, Government amendments, motions to disagree and amendments in lieu. Amendment (a) made. Lords amendment 182, as amended, agreed to. Lords amendments 348 and 391, amendments made and agreed to. Lords amendments 20, 22 and 81 disagreed to. Government amendments in lieu and consequential amendments made. Lords amendments 1-16, 18, 19, 21, 23-80, 82-147, 149-181, 183-348, 350-390 and 392-424 agreed to with Commons financial privileges waived in respect of Lords amendments 171, 180, 181, 317, 390 and 400. Motion that a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their amendments. Agreed to on question. Reasons to be reported and communicated to the Lords.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
737 cc799-846 
Session
2022-23
Legislative stage
Lords amendments
Procedure
Programme motions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Online Safety Bill 2021-22 to 2022-23. Lords amendments.
Thursday, 7 September 2023
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Paul Scully | 737 c799 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment (a) to Lords amendment 182.

Roger Gale | 737 c799 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Lords amendment 349, and Governme...


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Paul Scully | 737 c799 (Link to this contribution)

As we know from proceedings in this place, the Online Safety Bill is incredibly important. I am d...

William Cash | 737 c800 (Link to this contribution)

As I am sure my hon. Friend the Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge (Miriam Cates) will agree, ...

Paul Scully | 737 c800 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend and my hon. Friend the Member for Penistone and Stocksbridge (Miriam Cates...

Sajid Javid | 737 c800 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that Ministers and officials in his Department have worked extensively—I...

Paul Scully | 737 cc800-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his work on this, and Baroness Kidron for her work. I will cover...

John Hayes | 737 c801 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is setting out a powerful case for how the Government have listened to the overtures...

Paul Scully | 737 c801 (Link to this contribution)

This is a difficult path to tread in approaching this issue for the first time. In many ways, the...

Debbie Abrahams | 737 c801 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the Minister that this is a groundbreaking Bill, but we must be clear that there are...

Paul Scully | 737 c802 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady asks an important question, and that is the essence of what we are doing. We have t...

John Penrose | 737 c802 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point about the remaining gaps in the Bill, I appreciate what the Minister says a...

Paul Scully | 737 c802 (Link to this contribution)

Undoubtedly we will have to come back to that point. Not everything needs to be in the Bill at th...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 737 c802 (Link to this contribution)

I have two things to ask. First, will the Minister spell out more clearly how Parliament will be ...

Paul Scully | 737 cc802-3 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady raises some interesting points. We have conversed about harms, so I totally g...

Kirsty Blackman | 737 c803 (Link to this contribution)

The review mechanism strikes me as one of the places where the Bill falls down and is weakest, be...

Paul Scully | 737 cc803-4 (Link to this contribution)

I have talked about the fact that we have to keep this legislation under review, because the land...

Damian Collins | 737 c804 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that the companies already say in their terms of service that they do n...

Paul Scully | 737 cc804-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point, and I thank him for the amazing work he has done in gett...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 737 c807 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the amendment, which I think is important. Will the Minister make it clear that...

Paul Scully | 737 cc807-8 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, we will not be accepting those amendments, but I will cover more of that later on, after ...

Roger Gale | 737 c808 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Opposition spokesperson.

Alex Davies-Jones | 737 cc808-9 (Link to this contribution)

Before I address the amendments at hand, let me first put on record my thanks for the incredible ...

Richard Burgon | 737 c809 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an important speech. It is clear that the Government want to tackle harm...

Alex Davies-Jones | 737 cc809-811 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. He has been a passionate advocate on that point, sp...

Roger Gale | 737 c811 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Chair of the Select Committee.

Caroline Dinenage | 737 c811 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the return of the Online Safety Bill from its exhaustive consideration in the other pla...

William Cash | 737 c812 (Link to this contribution)

I commend my hon. Friend for her remarks. May I point out that there is a provision in European l...

Caroline Dinenage | 737 cc812-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right to point that out. Much of the European legislation on this wa...

Roger Gale | 737 c813 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Thirteen Members wish to participate in the debate. The winding-up speeches will need to s...

Kirsty Blackman | 737 cc813-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak during what I hope are the final stages of the Bill. Given that nearly ...

John Hayes | 737 c815 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making an excellent speech, but it is critical to understand that this is not ju...

Kirsty Blackman | 737 cc815-7 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is entirely correct. Whether it involves a particularly right-wing cause...

David Davis | 737 c817 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a very good speech. When I first came to this House, which was rather a l...

Kirsty Blackman | 737 cc817-8 (Link to this contribution)

I completely support the right hon. Member’s point—I would love to see this happening on an annua...

Damian Collins | 737 cc818-9 (Link to this contribution)

The draft Bill was published in April 2021, so it is fantastic that we are now discussing its fin...

John Hayes | 737 c819 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a powerful point, echoing the comments of Members on both sides of the House...

Damian Collins | 737 cc819-820 (Link to this contribution)

The length of the process we have gone through on this Bill is a good thing, because we have ende...

William Cash | 737 c820 (Link to this contribution)

In addition to the idea of annual scrutiny raised by my right hon. Friend the Member for Haltempr...

Damian Collins | 737 c820 (Link to this contribution)

When I chaired the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee, we set up a Sub-Committee to cons...

Jamie Stone | 737 c821 (Link to this contribution)

It is very kind of you to call me to speak, Mr Deputy Speaker. I apologise to your good self, to ...

Kirsty Blackman | 737 c821 (Link to this contribution)

Once a child sees something, they cannot unsee it. This is not just about parental controls; we h...

Jamie Stone | 737 c822 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an excellent point. Let me just illustrate it by saying that each of us in ou...

Maria Miller | 737 cc822-3 (Link to this contribution)

This Bill may well have been with us since April 2021 and been subject to significant change, but...

Richard Burgon | 737 cc823-4 (Link to this contribution)

As we reflect on the Bill today, it is important to say that it has been improved as it has progr...

William Cash | 737 c824 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Gentleman noted, I hope with satisfaction, that the Government yesterday and today h...

Richard Burgon | 737 cc824-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. It is important that the Government have announc...

Siobhan Baillie | 737 c825 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to Lords amendment 231 on visible identity verification. I will not press the ame...

John Hayes | 737 c825 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. Umberto Eco, the Italian philosopher, described the int...

Siobhan Baillie | 737 cc825-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am interested in that intervention, but I fear it would lead us into a very long discussion and...

Maria Miller | 737 c826 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the way my hon. Friend has focused on this issue through so many months and year...

Siobhan Baillie | 737 cc826-7 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Given the fast nature of social media and the tech world, and how quickly they adapt—...

Jeremy Wright | 737 cc827-8 (Link to this contribution)

As others have done, I welcome the considerable progress made on the Bill in the other place, bot...

William Cash | 737 c828 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend has mentioned Ofcom several times. I would like to ask his opini...

Jeremy Wright | 737 cc829-831 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a fair point. One difficult part of our legislative journey with the Bill is...

Marcus Fysh | 737 cc830-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Kenilworth and Southam...

Vicky Ford | 737 cc833-5 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start, like others, by saying how extraordinarily pleased I am to see the Bill return to t...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 737 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I have three more speakers. I ask that colleagues bear that in mind so that I can bring in the Mi...

William Cash | 737 cc835-7 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to mention a very long journey in relation to the protection of children, because to...

Miriam Cates | 737 cc837-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will follow on from the remarks made by my right hon. Friend the Member for Chelmsford (Vicky F...

William Cash | 737 c838 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that what has really put their teeth on edge most of all is the idea th...

Miriam Cates | 737 c838 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is completely right. The impact of not taking responsibility for protecting childr...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 737 c838 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Lady on the excellent efforts she has made over a long period to highligh...

Miriam Cates | 737 cc838-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his support. What he says is entirely correct.

The key to th...

Anna Firth | 737 cc839-840 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak briefly about Lords amendments 195 and 153, which would allow Ofcom, coroners and...

Paul Scully | 737 cc840-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all right hon. and hon. Members for their contribution to the debate today and, indeed, r...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 737 c841 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for engaging with us on access to private property and for setting up, with ...

Paul Scully | 737 c841 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is talking about the access of coroners, families and others to information, f...

Damian Collins | 737 c841 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister make it clear that we should expect the companies to use proactive technology, ...

Paul Scully | 737 cc842-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend absolutely nails it. He said earlier that businesses are already collecting this d...

Damian Collins | 737 c844 (Link to this contribution)

As Carnegie UK Trust observed online, a child born on the day the Government first published thei...

Paul Scully | 737 c844 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think I need to respond to that, but it goes to show does it not?

My hon. Friend t...

Jeremy Wright | 737 c844 (Link to this contribution)

It has just crossed my mind that the Minister might be saying that he agreed with everything that...

Paul Scully | 737 c845 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for that intervention. Indeed, end-to-end encrypted services are in ...

Vicky Ford | 737 c845 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister confirm whether the letter I received from the Minister of State, Ministry of Ju...

Paul Scully | 737 c845 (Link to this contribution)

I was just coming to that. I thank my right hon. Friend for the rest of her speech. She always sp...

Alex Davies-Jones | 737 c845 (Link to this contribution)

On the small high-harm platforms that are now in the scope of the Bill, will the Minister join me...

Paul Scully | 737 cc845-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly look at that. Our intention is that in all areas, especially relating to childre...

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