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Energy Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 5 September 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Andrew Bowie.
Report stage. New clause 52, debated with new clauses, amendments, Government new clauses and amendments. Agreed to on question. New clauses 63-66 agreed to. New clause 12 negatived on division (192 to 316). New clause 39 negatived on division (235 to 306). New clause 57 negatived on division (188 to 310). New clause 59 negatived on division (223 to 310). New clause 61 negatived on division (189 to 305). Clauses 1, 2, 6, 8-10, 13, 19, 39, 56, 62, 64, 66, 68, 70, 73, 76, 83-85, 89, 91, 92, 94, 100, 127, 128, 133, 139, 150, 160, 163, 173, 177, 200, 212, 216, 217, 220, 246, 248, 249, 259, 283, 288, 289, 291, 295, 298, 315, 325, 326, 328, 329, Schedules 8-10, 14 and 21, amendments made. Third reading agreed to on division (280 to 19). King's consent signified.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
737 cc245-393 
Session
2022-23
Legislative stage
Third reading and Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Energy Bill (HL) 2022-23. As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Thursday, 29 June 2023
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 737 c246 (Link to this contribution)

I will call the Minister in a second to move the new clause, but I take this opportunity to remin...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c246 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.


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Lindsay Hoyle | 737 cc246-273 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Government new clause 63—Renewabl...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc273-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to rise today to bring before the House our landmark Energy Bill for its considera...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 737 c274 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister confirm that at the weekend, agreements were made that have removed Northern Ire...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c274 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will have patience, I will come to the renewable liquid heating fuel amendm...

John Redwood | 737 c274 (Link to this contribution)

On that very point—security—what provision is being made for days when there is no wind, given th...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc274-5 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend knows that I am a great champion of supporting our oil and gas industry, whi...

Richard Graham | 737 c275 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister referred to base energy load, which is crucial in respect of nuclear energy, but is ...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c275 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to confirm that that will play an important part. Indeed, we have ringfenced £10 m...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c275 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a delight to give way to the hon. Gentleman.

Jamie Stone | 737 c275 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is incredibly well-mannered. The irony is that we generate an enormous amount of pow...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c275 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his constructive intervention. The Government recently launched a ...

Matt Hancock | 737 c276 (Link to this contribution)

On infrastructure of national scale, in order to keep people on side, is it not also vital that s...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. It is incumbent on all involved, from the transmission operators to the developers, N...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. I would be delighted to give way.

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c276 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the very polite Minister, as was said by the hon. Member for Caithness, Sutherla...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 737 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Order. There is so much pressure on time, so it is really important that interventions are short....

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc276-7 (Link to this contribution)

On the hon. Member’s first point, absolutely, we remain committed to delivering, developing and r...

Alec Shelbrooke | 737 c277 (Link to this contribution)

May I take the opportunity to thank my hon. Friend for reflecting on what I said in Committee and...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c277 (Link to this contribution)

I was very pleased to take that intervention. I thank my right hon. Friend for it. If he is patie...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 737 c277 (Link to this contribution)

It is very welcome that the levy will not be applied on households as a direct cost they will see...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his contribution. As we have spoken about before, I understand his pos...

Nickie Aiken | 737 c278 (Link to this contribution)

In my constituency we have a particular issue with commercial and domestic use, because residents...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c278 (Link to this contribution)

The measures in the Bill will provide the Government with powers to implement heat network zoning...

Richard Fuller | 737 c278 (Link to this contribution)

I join the Minister in thanking my right hon. Friend the Member for Camborne and Redruth (George ...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm that we will move to a consultation in the next few months. Indeed, we will use the...

David Duguid | 737 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome Government new clauses 52 and 63, which are of particular value to those living in cert...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c279 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am very pleased to welcome developments in renewable liquid heating fuel. The consultation...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c279 (Link to this contribution)

To back up the point made by the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (David Duguid), standard consul...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I am determined to work very hard to ensure that this Government will not be gone in 12 months. H...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 737 c279 (Link to this contribution)

There is a vast rural housing network in Northern Ireland of so many households, and there is ove...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc279-280 (Link to this contribution)

Once again, I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question. I was just about to answer his original ...

Lord Grayling | 737 c280 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his constructive approach on this issue. Could I seek one more assuran...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc280-1 (Link to this contribution)

I can give my right hon. Friend that assurance and go further. That commitment, alongside our £16...

Sally-Ann Hart | 737 c281 (Link to this contribution)

It is fantastic that the Government have announced the new fund to help community energy schemes ...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c281 (Link to this contribution)

I can indeed. I am delighted to tell my hon. Friend that alongside our proposed fund, we are comm...

Christine Jardine | 737 c281 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way, but I notice that I cannot see any mention in the amendments...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc281-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady very much for her intervention and her question. I am engaging with Ofgem o...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c282 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister may have heard on “The World at One” on Radio 4 last week the head of OVO Energy tal...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c282 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I can confirm that I will raise that issue with Ofgem at my next meeting, and at the next av...

Anna McMorrin | 737 c282 (Link to this contribution)

In 2013, the then coalition Government cut all the energy efficiency programmes, plunging million...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c282 (Link to this contribution)

This is the biggest piece of energy legislation ever passed by the British Parliament. We are dri...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc282-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I will not give way.

The Bill is a revolution in community energy: restarting o...

Nigel Evans | 737 c283 (Link to this contribution)

Order. As Members can see, there is great interest in this debate. I am therefore pondering exact...

Alan Whitehead | 737 cc283-4 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is quite right: the Bill has been with us for rather a long time. I am personally de...

Caroline Lucas | 737 c284 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that those three tests for decarbonisation make a lot of sense, but does the hon. Gentlem...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c284 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think it would be appropriate for me to indicate exactly which amendments from various M...

Sammy Wilson | 737 c284 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman accept that, while the Government may have set out the high-level ambitio...

Alan Whitehead | 737 cc284-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is not for me to defend how the Government have managed their arrangements as far as the costs...

Lord Grayling | 737 c285 (Link to this contribution)

I am keen to see a process start now that leads to our securing the investment we need to ensure ...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c285 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the right hon. Gentleman’s concerns about what the shortly-to-appear Labour Governme...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c285 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman mentions boilers, and a number of organisations, including Green Alliance, Act...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c286 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman contains himself, he will see that we have tabled an amendment on low-carbo...

John Redwood | 737 c286 (Link to this contribution)

If this electrical revolution is to take off, many more people will need to buy electric cars and...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c286 (Link to this contribution)

The Government and I have been in considerable discussion about precisely that point. We need to ...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 737 c286 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an important point about new clause 53, which stands in his name and tho...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c287 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The campaign that he may be referring to was signed up to by ...

John Hayes | 737 c287 (Link to this contribution)

I was one of the architects of what the hon. Gentleman described as a ban. He will understand tha...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c287 (Link to this contribution)

That is remarkably like saying I am encouraging you to use your second car because I shot the tyr...

Anna McMorrin | 737 c288 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will my hon. Friend give way?

Anna McMorrin | 737 c288 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being very generous. Does he agree that the failure to roll out onshore wind is...

Alan Whitehead | 737 c288 (Link to this contribution)

Lack of investment does indeed have a direct impact. If we go back and look at what could have be...

John Hayes | 737 c288 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Alan Whitehead | 737 cc288-9 (Link to this contribution)

No. I have to make progress.

New clause 61—

“National Warmer Homes and Businesses Act...

Alec Shelbrooke | 737 c289 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Alan Whitehead | 737 c289 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way again.

My hon. Friend the Member for Birkenhead (Mick Whitley) has ...

Nigel Evans | 737 c289 (Link to this contribution)

Order. As Members can see, there are many people who wish to take part in this debate. I know tha...

Lord Sharma | 737 cc289-290 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

I do support the overall aim of the Bill, but, in the interes...

John Redwood | 737 c290 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend accept, on the cost argument, that we also need to build a new gas turb...

Lord Sharma | 737 cc290-1 (Link to this contribution)

We do need a diversified energy system, and I think the Minister set out all the work that is goi...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c291 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman talks about bill payers, but for the previous wind that was built under ...

Lord Sharma | 737 c291 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will know that onshore wind has been back as part of the CfD process in the la...

Maria Miller | 737 c291 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend talks about the importance of taking people with us. More wind power will ne...

Lord Sharma | 737 c291 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly agree with my right hon. Friend that we need more battery storage. That is being roll...

Dave Doogan | 737 cc291-2 (Link to this contribution)

I start by paying tribute to my predecessor in this role, my hon. Friend the Member for Kilmarnoc...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c292 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a point that must be recognised and understood for the future. Before Hi...

Dave Doogan | 737 c293 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is correct. Over and above the self-evident environmental consequences of nuclear,...

David Duguid | 737 c293 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the hon. Member to his new role and pay tribute to his predecessor, the hon. Member for...

Dave Doogan | 737 cc293-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is entirely correct: he did miss me highlighting what would replace that basel...

Nigel Evans | 737 c294 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before the hon. Gentleman makes his intervention, I inform the House that there will be a ...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 737 c294 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman mentioned a small issue that makes a big difference. The energy bills support ...

Dave Doogan | 737 cc294-5 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely, and I echo the calls from my Scottish National party Westminster leader, my hon...

Nigel Evans | 737 c295 (Link to this contribution)

I remind Members of the four-minute limit.

Alicia Kearns | 737 c295 (Link to this contribution)

A core pillar of this Bill is the delivery of a safe, secure and resilient UK energy system, but ...

David Davis | 737 c295 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is entirely right in her argument, but this is not just about the overall number o...

Alicia Kearns | 737 c295 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend, who as always makes very valid points. In my own constituency, one ...

Siobhan Baillie | 737 c296 (Link to this contribution)

These solar farms make absolutely no sense to people when we are in a food security crisis, but a...

Alicia Kearns | 737 c296 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right: farmers want to conserve and to grow the food of this nation....

John Hayes | 737 c296 (Link to this contribution)

Further to the intervention made by my hon. Friend the Member for Stroud (Siobhan Baillie), meanw...

Alicia Kearns | 737 cc296-7 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. That is why I still urge the Government to bring forward a strategy on roofto...

Sammy Wilson | 737 c297 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member will have our full support if she does press the new clause. We should add anothe...

Alicia Kearns | 737 c297 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with the right hon. Gentleman. That is the exactly the point I would make....

Mick Whitley | 737 cc297-8 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of new clause 51, tabled in my name, concerning tidal range power. In ...

George Eustice | 737 cc298-9 (Link to this contribution)

I support Government new clause 63 and welcome their bringing it forward. I had tabled amendment ...

Nadia Whittome | 737 cc299-300 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of new clause 35. My amendment is about funding for decarbonising home...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 737 c300 (Link to this contribution)

I suppose that the volume of my amendments probably speaks for itself, but I have a great interes...

Sammy Wilson | 737 c301 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Member agree that that could be for something as simple as renting out premises wit...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 737 c301 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has it exactly right. Hence I feel that when we in this place are creating c...

John Redwood | 737 c301 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for highlighting this issue to all in the House. I hope that the Governmen...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 737 c301 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has put his finger exactly on the pulse. This is a substantial Bill. I say t...

Caroline Lucas | 737 cc301-3 (Link to this contribution)

There are some elements of the Bill to commend, not least the net zero duty on Ofgem, but overall...

Chris Skidmore | 737 cc303-4 (Link to this contribution)

I draw the House’s attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.

T...

Clive Lewis | 737 c304 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to speak briefly to new clause 36, tabled in my name. New clause 36 asks—no, implore...

David Duguid | 737 cc305-6 (Link to this contribution)

In the interests of time, I will limit my remarks to carbon capture and storage, and the impact o...

Wera Hobhouse | 737 cc306-7 (Link to this contribution)

The UK has a responsibility to deliver an effective net zero strategy. This Energy Bill provided ...

Richard Drax | 737 cc307-8 (Link to this contribution)

In the short time I have, may I introduce a slight note of caution? I was impressed by the almost...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 737 c308 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the case that, after car batteries expire, most of them end up in landfill? This is ano...

Richard Drax | 737 c308 (Link to this contribution)

It is. I have read many articles, not least by Mr Bean who, as we know, is a car expert. He wrote...

Olivia Blake | 737 cc308-9 (Link to this contribution)

I declare an interest, as my husband is the company secretary of Sheffield Renewables, a communit...

Andrea Leadsom | 737 cc309-310 (Link to this contribution)

This is a great Bill and I congratulate the Government as it takes us a huge step forward. Back i...

Jonathan Edwards | 737 c310 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with the point the right hon. Lady is making. Does she agree that Governments ...

Andrea Leadsom | 737 c310 (Link to this contribution)

I have a lot of sympathy with what the hon. Gentleman says, but he will know that over their life...

Tonia Antoniazzi | 737 cc310-1 (Link to this contribution)

We all want to cut emissions and tackle climate change, but people continue to suffer from the co...

John Redwood | 737 c312 (Link to this contribution)

The wish to carry through a great electrical revolution will require a lot of good will from the ...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 737 c312 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent point about the extra energy provision that we need t...

John Redwood | 737 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am greatly in favour of doing proper, whole-life carbon accounting, taking into account all the...

Nigel Evans | 737 c313 (Link to this contribution)

We are going to a three-minute limit immediately. The wind-ups will start at 5.50 pm and then the...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 737 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for calling me in this debate, Mr Deputy Speaker. It has not been all jolly hockey stic...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 737 cc314-5 (Link to this contribution)

In my point of order earlier I said that this was a 328-page Bill. That was what it was when it c...

Alex Cunningham | 737 cc315-6 (Link to this contribution)

The issue of flaring and venting emissions highlighted in new clause 12 is an extremely important...

Lord Grayling | 737 c316 (Link to this contribution)

I have pushed my new clause 34 to a point where the Government have responded in a sensible way a...

Alec Shelbrooke | 737 c317 (Link to this contribution)

It has been a pleasure to speak on the Bill on Second Reading and in Committee, but I agree with ...

Caroline Johnson | 737 cc317-8 (Link to this contribution)

The beautiful food-producing farmland in my constituency is a particular target for industrial-sc...

Peter Aldous | 737 cc318-9 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill has an important role to play in ensuring that we meet our 2050 net zero targets, enhanc...

Duncan Baker | 737 cc319-320 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the principle of the Government lifting the ban on new onshore wind farms. I ha...

Roger Gale | 737 c320 (Link to this contribution)

Order. This will have to be the final two minutes from the Back Benches. I call Jerome Mayhew.

Jerome Mayhew | 737 c320 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am just going to talk about one new clause, new clause 29, which ...

Caroline Lucas | 737 c320 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Jerome Mayhew | 737 cc320-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will not; I am sorry, but I only have one and a half minutes.

It is logical on environmen...

Roger Gale | 737 c321 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to those Members who have not been called; a note will be made and a count taken. I c...

Andrew Bowie | 737 c321 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to rise. I must apologise in advance of my closing remarks: given the time availab...

Alicia Kearns | 737 c321 (Link to this contribution)

I know the Minister has historically been very strong on this point. I am interested in the fact ...

Andrew Bowie | 737 cc321-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her comments and constructive engagement over the past couple of days ...

Roger Gale | 737 c327 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am advised that the bells at No. 1 Parliament Street are not working. I shall extend the...

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