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Procurement Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Monday, 9 January 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Jeremy Quin and Alex Burghart. The answering members were Angela Rayner and Florence Eshalomi.
Second reading.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
725 cc339-385 
Session
2022-23
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Procurement Bill (HL) 2022-23. Brought from the Lords.
Wednesday, 14 December 2022
Bills
House of Commons
PROCUREMENT BILL [LORDS] (PROGRAMME)
Monday, 9 January 2023
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
PROCUREMENT BILL [LORDS] (MONEY)
Monday, 9 January 2023
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Jeremy Quin | 725 c340 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

At some £300 billion, public procur...

Lord Spellar | 725 c340 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way?


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Jeremy Quin | 725 c340 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to my right hon. Friend.

Lord Spellar | 725 c340 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is starting out with the message that the Government are somehow able to do this bec...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c340 (Link to this contribution)

I referred to the right hon. Gentleman as my right hon. Friend because he is so familiar from my ...

Lord Spellar | 725 c340 (Link to this contribution)

But is the Minister clear, now that he has left the Ministry of Defence, that the contract is not...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Member refers to Team Resolute, and I am delighted that it won the tender. The maj...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

But before doing so, I give way to the hon. Gentleman.

Bill Esterson | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister says that he is here to talk about a modern procurement system for the UK, but The G...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

Alas, it is a great loss to me, but I have not read The Guardian today and I am not in a position...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the hon. Gentleman will allow me to make some progress. If I give two chances to ever...

Mike Amesbury | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

Which line in the Bill will prevent, say, a future landlord who has a close relationship with a f...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c341 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman has not read the Bill, I recommend that he does so. There is a lot of it, b...

Tim Loughton | 725 c342 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I could mention something that is in the Bill, rather than not in the Bill.

I welco...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c342 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to respond to a question about a clause in the Bill, for which I thank my hon. F...

Bob Seely | 725 c342 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Jeremy Quin | 725 c342 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, but then I must make progress.

Bob Seely | 725 c342 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend was making a point about ethics, so I will make a point about dependency. Do...

Jeremy Quin | 725 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)

I would welcome the opportunity to speak to my hon. Friend about any amendment he might table, an...

Caroline Lucas | 725 c343 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being generous in giving way. Can he indicate whether the Government will accept ...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c343 (Link to this contribution)

That urgency is why we have published procurement policy notes on our commitment to net zero, jus...

Debbie Abrahams | 725 c343 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being incredibly kind in giving way, and I recognise his generosity.

What m...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c343 (Link to this contribution)

That is a matter not so much for the Bill as for the operation of commercial practice. The outsou...

Debbie Abrahams | 725 c344 (Link to this contribution)

National Highways, for example, uses project bank accounts to protect its supply chain as a matte...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c344 (Link to this contribution)

I am not familiar with the specifics of project bank accounts, to be perfectly frank. We have put...

Richard Burgon | 725 c344 (Link to this contribution)

Public procurement is one key way in which the Government can set a framework whereby employers’ ...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c344 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think this is the process whereby we tell employers what they should be paying their emp...

John Penrose | 725 c345 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this Bill, particularly because, as the Minister rightly points out, it introduces far ...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c345 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for the ideas he threw in our direction, which have been picked up. He is ...

Paul Howell | 725 c345 (Link to this contribution)

When we talk about NHS procurement and the challenges for small and medium-sized enterprises in d...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c345 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise the frustration of the company in my hon. Friend’s constituency. He should take up th...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c346 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way at this stage. I thank the hon. Gentleman for the offer, but I think I should...

Stephen Kinnock | 725 c346 (Link to this contribution)

On partnership between the public and private sectors, the steel industry is a crucial aspect of ...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c347 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman treads a well-trodden path. Through steel procurement, we are always keen to s...

Debbie Abrahams | 725 c347 (Link to this contribution)

I wholeheartedly support the Minister on that. I want to take him back to a previous point about ...

Jeremy Quin | 725 cc347-8 (Link to this contribution)

Ultimately, this is contractual. On the prime, that is easy: we will be paying the prime contract...

James Duddridge | 725 c348 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentions trade deals. Both the Australia and New Zealand trade deals have a large pr...

Jeremy Quin | 725 cc348-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for a most ingenious comment. I had not considered the calendar of the two...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 725 c349 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the Opposition Front-Bench spokesperson, I wish to draw colleagues’ attention to th...

Angela Rayner | 725 cc349-350 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to open this debate today on behalf of the Opposition. I pay tribute to the work...

Stephen Kinnock | 725 c350 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. Returning to the issue of the three fleet sol...

Angela Rayner | 725 c351 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. As he says, using public money to make, buy and sell more...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c351 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the right hon. Lady will welcome the fact that, as a result of the FFS award, we will see ...

Angela Rayner | 725 cc351-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that contribution, but he should put it in the Bill. He should work with...

Anthony Mangnall | 725 c352 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is making a point of saying that we are putting in a VIP lane. Where in the B...

Angela Rayner | 725 c352 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. Clause 41 allows Ministers to use urgency as a new justification for granting direct awards—...

Jeremy Quin | 725 c352 (Link to this contribution)

If life and public safety are at risk, does the right hon. Lady really think that there should no...

Angela Rayner | 725 c353 (Link to this contribution)

As I said to the Minister earlier, Wales and other countries had emergency powers to do things. I...

Anthony Mangnall | 725 c353 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady has taken one point and cherry-picked to emphasise it without looking at the ...

Angela Rayner | 725 cc353-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to chapter 3, which addresses transparency—although, again, I think it is unambitious...

Mark Francois | 725 c354 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady may not be aware, but the Infrastructure and Projects Authority audits all ma...

Angela Rayner | 725 cc354-5 (Link to this contribution)

I say to the right hon. Member that we do not have a system that works. That is pretty clear to m...

Caroline Lucas | 725 c355 (Link to this contribution)

I was trying to time my intervention for just as the right hon. Lady was finishing her remarks. B...

Angela Rayner | 725 c355 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I listened to the Minister’s response to the hon. Member’s question earlier, and it s...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 725 cc355-6 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I give a gentle reminder of my advice that speeches should last no longer than eight minut...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 725 c356 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker; how tactfully you remind us about the eight-minute limit. What a...

Jim Shannon | 725 c356 (Link to this contribution)

When covid-19 came in and the Government had to make big decisions, a number of SMEs in my consti...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 725 cc356-7 (Link to this contribution)

That is the main point of the Bill, along with moving away from the European approach that essent...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 725 cc357-8 (Link to this contribution)

I got a cheer from the Opposition Front Bench! I rarely get those, but on this occasion I have. I...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 725 c358 (Link to this contribution)

Madam Deputy Speaker is a hard lady; she shakes her head.

Let me conclude by saying that th...

Kirsty Blackman | 725 cc358-9 (Link to this contribution)

Happy new year to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and to everyone in the Chamber. Thank you for callin...

Robin Millar | 725 c359 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady referenced the devolution agreement, and she has just mentioned reserved matters. C...

Kirsty Blackman | 725 cc359-361 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am referring to the devolution settlement and how devolution works. Within the Scotland Ac...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 725 c361 (Link to this contribution)

Order. My guidance is creeping down more towards seven minutes.

8.29 pm

Alicia Kearns | 725 cc361-3 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome much of this Bill, in particular its support for small and medium-sized enterprises, bu...

Nick Smith | 725 cc362-4 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this Bill’s aims of openness, effectiveness and transparency. A third of public expendi...

Mark Francois | 725 cc364-6 (Link to this contribution)

As a former Defence Minister, I will confine my remarks to the Defence-related aspects of procure...

Lindsay Hoyle | 725 c366 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to a maiden speech. I call Samantha Dixon.

8.48 pm

Samantha Dixon | 725 cc366-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I am genuinely delighted to be speaking in this important debate.

As...

Harriett Baldwin | 725 cc368-370 (Link to this contribution)

It is an absolute honour to follow such an assured maiden speech from the hon. Member for City of...

Mick Whitley | 725 cc370-1 (Link to this contribution)

I commend my hon. Friend the Member for City of Chester (Samantha Dixon). I hope her nerves have ...

Anthony Mangnall | 725 cc371-3 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for City of Chester (Samantha Dixon) on her fantastic maiden speec...

Sarah Olney | 725 cc373-5 (Link to this contribution)

The Liberal Democrats support the Government’s stated ambition in the Bill of speeding up and sim...

Robin Millar | 725 cc375-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the new hon. Member for City of Chester (Samantha Dixon). I congratul...

Hywel Williams | 725 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

Procurement in Wales is very much a devolved matter. I would have preferred to see our Senedd int...

Florence Eshalomi | 725 cc378-380 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to be closing this debate on behalf of the Opposition. I thank right hon and hon...

Anthony Mangnall | 725 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady not take confidence from the platform the Bill creates whereby a business or o...

Florence Eshalomi | 725 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that point. What we in the Opposition are trying to say is that th...

Alex Burghart | 725 c381 (Link to this contribution)

I warmly welcome the new hon. Member for City of Chester (Samantha Dixon). I could not help but n...

Lord Spellar | 725 c382 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the Minister has to talk about Brexit and all the rest of it to please those on his B...

Alex Burghart | 725 c382 (Link to this contribution)

If the right hon. Gentleman had witnessed the consultation that was held on the legislation, he w...

Alex Burghart | 725 cc382-3 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman says that it does not, but the shadow spokeswoman, the right hon. Member...

Nick Smith | 725 c383 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister please tell us when his single digital platform will be ready for use by indust...

Alex Burghart | 725 c383 (Link to this contribution)

The platform is based on a system that we already have. We are confident that we will be able to ...

Alicia Kearns | 725 c383 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for meeting me earlier today. It was enormously appreciated and I thank hi...

Alex Burghart | 725 cc383-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend raises an excellent point, which I was happy to discuss with her earlier. Obviousl...

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