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Government PPE Contracts

Opposition day on Tuesday, 6 December 2022, in the House of Commons, led by Angela Rayner and Fleur Anderson. The answering members were Will Quince and Neil O'Brien.
Ninth Opposition day debate (part two): Motion, That this House (a) notes that the Department for Health and Social Care purchased more than £12 billion of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) in 2020-21; (b) regrets that the Government has now written £8.7 billion off the value of this £12 billion, including £4 billion that was spent on PPE which did not meet NHS standards and was unusable; (c) is extremely concerned that the Government’s high priority lane for procurement during the pandemic appears to have resulted in contracts being awarded without due diligence and wasted taxpayer money; (d) considers there should be examination of the process by which contracts were awarded through the high priority lane; and (e) accordingly resolves that an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, praying that he will be graciously pleased to give direction that all papers, advice and correspondence involving Ministers and Special Advisers, including submissions and electronic communications, relating to the Government contracts for garments for biological or chemical protection, awarded to PPE Medpro by the Department for Health and Social Care, references CF-0029900D0O000000rwimUAA1 and 547578, be provided to the Committee of Public Accounts. Closure motion that the Question be now put agreed to. Main Question agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
724 cc274-312 
Session
2022-23
Procedure
Closure motions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Opposition day debate: Government PPE contracts
Tuesday, 6 December 2022
Research briefings
Protective Clothing: Contracts
Monday, 20 March 2023
Written questions
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 724 c277 (Link to this contribution)

Before we begin this debate, I would like to remind Members that the motion gives general reasons...

Angela Rayner | 724 c277 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House –

(a) notes that the Department for Health and Social ...


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Toby Perkins | 724 c277 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right that this is a scandalous waste of public money. Equally...

Angela Rayner | 724 c278 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He made two points, which I will come to in greater detail in...

Helen Hayes | 724 c278 (Link to this contribution)

During the early months of the pandemic, I was contacted by PPE suppliers known to the NHS—they w...

Angela Rayner | 724 c278 (Link to this contribution)

I think it absolutely stinks, and my hon. Friend is absolutely right, in that the public can see ...

Andy McDonald | 724 c278 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that the mood in her constituency, as in mine, apposite these dea...

Angela Rayner | 724 c279 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right to capture the mood of the public on this. At a time when the public are ...

Kieran Mullan | 724 c279 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously in government you have to get on and make decisions, and we do not often get to see wha...

Angela Rayner | 724 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for his comments, but I ask him: how many Members from across the House w...

Nia Griffith | 724 c279 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. Does she agree that there is a huge contrast ...

Angela Rayner | 724 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. This was a global pandemic, yet it is the UK Government who are constantly cr...

Neale Hanvey | 724 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Lady for giving way; she is making a powerful speech. Today has been a rea...

Angela Rayner | 724 c280 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for his point, and he is absolutely right. The Fire Brigades Union member...

Meg Hillier | 724 c280 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has highlighted one particular legal situation, but I am sure she is aware t...

Angela Rayner | 724 cc280-1 (Link to this contribution)

The Chair of the Public Accounts Committee is absolutely right. It is absolutely eye-watering and...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 724 c281 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The right hon. Lady is venturing rather too far into the territory that I urged her to avo...

Angela Rayner | 724 c281 (Link to this contribution)

I was not criticising Members from the other place. I am just quoting what a Member from this pla...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 724 c281 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not now clear to the public that the Conservative party believes in one thing only: how muc...

Angela Rayner | 724 cc281-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend captures the mood of the public. They want answers—they want to know what happened...

Dawn Butler | 724 c282 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a thoughtful speech which puts every Conservative Member to shame....

Angela Rayner | 724 c283 (Link to this contribution)

It is absolute negligence and neglect of due diligence in the whole process. We now know that the...

Angela Eagle | 724 c283 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a powerful speech. With the benefit of hindsight, does she agree t...

Angela Rayner | 724 cc283-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and I would go further. I know from the correspondence I have...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 724 c284 (Link to this contribution)

I know that hon. and right hon. Members heard what I said previously. I just want to add that whi...

Will Quince | 724 c284 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for this opportunity to come to the House to talk about our vital national efforts ...

Neale Hanvey | 724 c284 (Link to this contribution)

At the beginning of the pandemic in one of my first Prime Minister’s questions, I asked the then ...

Will Quince | 724 cc284-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to many of the points the hon. Gentleman has raised, but I will just say this abou...

Karl Turner | 724 c285 (Link to this contribution)

How can the Minister possibly square the fact that Arco, a leading clinical PPE supplier to the N...

Will Quince | 724 c285 (Link to this contribution)

There were lots of words there, and lots of aggression. [Interruption.] Let us be frank, there wa...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 724 c285 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman must allow the Minister to answer. It is not fair to shout back as soon...

Will Quince | 724 c285 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull East (Karl Turner) will know that civil servants had to ta...

Simon Hoare | 724 c285 (Link to this contribution)

Was everything that was done, done perfectly? No, and no doubt all the lessons will be learned bu...

Will Quince | 724 c285 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Under those circumstances, in those conditions, we had to be ...

Kieran Mullan | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that the Opposition want to have it both ways? They criticise us for ou...

Will Quince | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

I am keen not to get into a political slanging match on this point, but my hon. Friend is right t...

Dawn Butler | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

On civil servants, will the Minister give way?

Will Quince | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

No. I will come to civil servants in a moment.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The Minister has indicated that he will give way shortly. Let him make a bit of progress.<...

Will Quince | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

I have given way equally to both sides so far in this debate. I have some reluctance to give way ...

Will Quince | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

I said I will, and I will.

The efforts of civil servants secured billions of items and, by ...

Dawn Butler | 724 c286 (Link to this contribution)

I want to take the Minister back to where he mentioned civil servants. According to the Governmen...

Will Quince | 724 c287 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the hon. Lady made that intervention, because it is the first I have heard of s...

Will Quince | 724 c287 (Link to this contribution)

I promise I will come to the hon. Lady.

Those 400 civil servants working on PPE and a senio...

Angela Rayner | 724 c287 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being disingenuous to say that. I have never suggested for one moment that civil ...

Will Quince | 724 c287 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that. As I said, due diligence was carried out on all companies. Procurement decis...

Meg Hillier | 724 c288 (Link to this contribution)

Very early on, the Public Accounts Committee and the National Audit Office were looking into the ...

Will Quince | 724 cc288-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, and I will come on to some of the action that we will...

Meg Hillier | 724 c289 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way again. I reassure him and the House that the Public Accounts ...

Will Quince | 724 c289 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for that response, and I know the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster will...

Will Quince | 724 c289 (Link to this contribution)

I have given way once before—

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c289 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Lady should not be on her feet when the Minister is answering an intervention fro...

Will Quince | 724 c289 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Will Quince | 724 c289 (Link to this contribution)

I have given way to the hon. Lady once already, as I promised I would, and I have been generous w...

Will Quince | 724 cc289-290 (Link to this contribution)

I also gave way to the hon. Gentleman, so let us leave it.

We should be proud of the remark...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 cc290-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the Minister’s robust performance. He said at the end that the Governm...

Kieran Mullan | 724 c291 (Link to this contribution)

What would the Scottish public think about the Scottish Government awarding PPE contracts, withou...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 c291 (Link to this contribution)

I hate to say it, but my goodness you are predictable, Sir. That was probably the most predictabl...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c291 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that he is in danger of straying. I have let it go so far, but...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 cc291-2 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will attempt to stay on the right side of that line, and I am ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c292 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am quite sure that the hon. Gentleman intends to talk just about the process and the goo...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 c292 (Link to this contribution)

I shall from now on, Madam Deputy Speaker; thank you.

This whole process stinks, and we all...

Peter Grant | 724 c292 (Link to this contribution)

May I take my hon. Friend back to his comments earlier about due diligence? We all heard the Mini...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 cc292-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is an excellent question, and perhaps it is a question that, had my hon. Friend managed to i...

Peter Grant | 724 c293 (Link to this contribution)

I can personally vouch for what my hon. Friend has said about the development of the manufacturin...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 c293 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. All the good that we could and should be talking about i...

Kieran Mullan | 724 c294 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member is talking about the Scottish Government’s track record on procurement and value ...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 c294 (Link to this contribution)

It is remarkable—we can always spot when a Tory is sinking beneath the waves when they start shou...

David Linden | 724 c294 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware, as the hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Dr Mullan) perhaps is not, th...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 c294 (Link to this contribution)

One would have hoped that people in glass houses, having thrown the first stone, would have reali...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 c294 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way if the Minister can tell us the exact proportion of PPE produced that did not mee...

Will Quince | 724 c294 (Link to this contribution)

I will quickly update the House. As of October, we hold 13.1 billion items of PPE and we have dis...

Brendan O'Hara | 724 cc294-5 (Link to this contribution)

I genuinely thank the Minister for that information and I look forward to reading it in Hansard s...

Nick Smith | 724 cc295-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the motion on PPE, which has become a terrible tail of waste for our country. F...

Dawn Butler | 724 c296 (Link to this contribution)

I have a few points for the Minister of State, Department of Health and Social Care, the hon. Mem...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c296 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member claims that we bought five times too much PPE. This is not the case. We did have ...

Dawn Butler | 724 c297 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that intervention. So can he just clarify: if the NHS was given weekly s...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c297 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister of State did actually give the House some updated figures on that point. It is not t...

Dawn Butler | 724 c297 (Link to this contribution)

I suppose the facts will reveal themselves when the Minister shows us all the paperwork, leaves i...

Sarah Owen | 724 c297 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful speech and she has spoken with incredible experience and hear...

Dawn Butler | 724 c297 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an extremely valid point. I spoke in Committee this morning. I am not going ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c297 (Link to this contribution)

Order. It is perfectly in order for the hon. Lady to say “incompetent”, but I would be grateful i...

Dawn Butler | 724 cc297-9 (Link to this contribution)

This is so ridiculous, Madam Deputy Speaker. When the Netflix series comes out, nobody is going t...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c299 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I will have to put on a time limit of four minutes.

6.17 pm

Naz Shah | 724 cc299-300 (Link to this contribution)

As an Opposition, we expect to scrutinise the Government, hold them to account and challenge them...

Nadia Whittome | 724 cc300-1 (Link to this contribution)

The Government’s actions on PPE were a catalogue of failures from start to finish, with devastati...

Christine Jardine | 724 cc301-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support this motion, but the sentiment that I feel most strongly is, “What a mess—what ...

Kate Hollern | 724 cc302-3 (Link to this contribution)

Members across the House repeatedly warned about the contracts that were being awarded to compani...

Peter Grant | 724 cc303-4 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly support the motion, and I commend the Opposition for devoting part of their Oppositio...

Nia Griffith | 724 cc304-5 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friends have set out very clearly the shocking scandal of the PPE contracts. They have al...

Fleur Anderson | 724 cc305-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to be able to close today’s debate on behalf of His Majesty’s Opposition, and I sh...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c308 (Link to this contribution)

To make sure that I get to them, I want to respond to some of the important points made by Back-B...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c308 (Link to this contribution)

I am just going to complete my tour of people’s contributions.

The hon. Member for Brent Ce...

Neil O'Brien | 724 cc308-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, but I am trying to respond to everyone’s points first. If Members can hold on, w...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c309 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Give the Minister a chance to respond to all the questions. I have tried to give enough ti...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c309 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am keen to reply to them. The hon. Gentleman said that only 3%...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c309 (Link to this contribution)

I am literally responding to the hon. Gentleman. He talked about only 3% not being reusable and i...

Neil O'Brien | 724 c309 (Link to this contribution)

There are so many questions that I do not know who to give way to, but I think I should start wit...

Nick Smith | 724 c309 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. He attributed comments to me that I did not make, and I just...

Neil O'Brien | 724 cc309-310 (Link to this contribution)

I am about to explain the due process that we went through and the incredibly forensic work that ...

Neil O'Brien | 724 cc310-1 (Link to this contribution)

What did the hon. Member for Brent Central say there? [Interruption.] No, she does not want to re...

Alan Campbell | 724 c311 (Link to this contribution)

claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36).

Question put forthwith, That the Quest...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 724 c311 (Link to this contribution)

Order. It is inadvisable for people to shout other things if I am listening for the Ayes having i...

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