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Leasehold Reform (Ground Rent) Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Monday, 29 November 2021, in the House of Commons, led by Eddie Hughes. The answering members were Christopher Pincher, Lucy Powell and Mike Amesbury.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on committal, proceedings in public bill committee, on consideration and third reading, and other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Money resolution. Queen's recommendation signified. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
704 cc703-738 
Session
2021-22
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Eddie Hughes | 704 c703 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

As hon. Members may know, I have lo...

Desmond Swayne | 704 c703 (Link to this contribution)

I lobbied for an exemption for the retirement living industry, which was granted and then withdra...


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Eddie Hughes | 704 c703 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate my right hon. Friend’s strong lobbying on this matter. I think the Government decide...

Chris Bryant | 704 c703 (Link to this contribution)

The bit I do not understand is why we have leasehold at all. It is just preposterous nonsense, is...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c703 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I wonder why, in the brief periods when Labour h...

Catherine West | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being generous in giving way. He may not wish to be as radical as my hon. Friend ...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)

I largely agree with the hon. Lady, not least because the ten-minute rule Bill to which I referre...

Mark Tami | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister agree that this issue is about not only ground rents, but the admin fees that a...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to jump forward several pages in my speech, but the right hon. Gentleman is predict...

Andy Carter | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the Minister for the work that he has done so far. He may know that constituents...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

The work of the CMA has been pivotal so far in already changing the behaviour of a number of sign...

Mark Tami | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

I have met many people who were told by the company that sold them their property that they would...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

Once again the right hon. Gentleman points out an egregious and unfortunate practice that hopeful...

Desmond Swayne | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

That prompts the question of what proposals the Minister may have to enable leaseholders to enfor...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

As my right hon. Friend will know, unfortunately I am not the Secretary of State, much as I would...

Christian Matheson | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened to my right hon. Friend the Member for Alyn and Deeside (Mark Tami) and others. T...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure I can go so far as to agree, but, as a number of hon. Members on both sides of the ...

Catherine West | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being very generous with his time; he remembers well what it is like to be on the...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)

I would say that we are doing a very important thing with today’s legislation, which effectively ...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)

I have been known to swim against the tide once or twice with regard to this particular debate. I...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend, who is incredibly knowledgeable in this area. I remember discussing my te...

Theresa Villiers | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister acknowledge that the situation is slightly different in relation to retirement ...

Eddie Hughes | 704 cc707-8 (Link to this contribution)

The reason why we extended the timeframe for the introduction of this legislation for those prope...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 c708 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is setting out a list of exemptions. Are complex developments included in that—for e...

Eddie Hughes | 704 c708 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that I completely understand my hon. Friend’s point. The Bill will not change the m...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 c708 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I should clarify my point. The Minister is quite right that a management company coul...

Eddie Hughes | 704 cc708-9 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, the Government’s intention is to ensure that, for fairness, the provision applies in a...

Lucy Powell | 704 c709 (Link to this contribution)

The Leasehold Reform (Ground Rent) Bill sets ground rents on new leasehold homes to peppercorn le...

Mark Tami | 704 c709 (Link to this contribution)

I have been struck by the way that two houses, next door to each other, may be exactly the same, ...

Lucy Powell | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

My good and hon. Friend makes an extremely well-made point. The practice of new homes being built...

Catherine West | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my concern that this has got so out of hand? The amounts being charged ...

Lucy Powell | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. My hon. Friend makes a really good point. People are trapped in this situation, becau...

Desmond Swayne | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

Does this not give rise to an extraordinary question about the legal advice provided by solicitor...

Lucy Powell | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad the right hon. Gentleman raises that point, because I am sure colleagues around the Hou...

Mark Tami | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend give way on that point?

Lucy Powell | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

I will first try to answer it, and then when I do not answer it very well, I will give way to my ...

Mark Tami | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has in many ways made the point I was going to make. These people were often first...

Lucy Powell | 704 c711 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely; my right hon. Friend makes a very good point as well. Many people, especially first-t...

Justin Madders | 704 c711 (Link to this contribution)

On legal advice, it is worth pointing out that not only were some people told that they had to us...

Lucy Powell | 704 c711 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point, and there is a very strong basis for a wider mis-selling...

Mark Tami | 704 c712 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend give way?

Lucy Powell | 704 c712 (Link to this contribution)

I will, because my right hon. Friend is an expert on this issue.

Mark Tami | 704 c712 (Link to this contribution)

To list just a few examples that I have come across, some leaseholders who—in theory—own a house ...

Lucy Powell | 704 cc712-3 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right and he gives good examples, some of which I was going to...

Robert Jenrick | 704 cc713-4 (Link to this contribution)

It will come as no surprise to right hon. and hon. Members to hear that I strongly support the Bi...

Julian Lewis | 704 c714 (Link to this contribution)

I am very encouraged to hear that my right hon. Friend is so forward-looking on this matter. May ...

Robert Jenrick | 704 c714 (Link to this contribution)

It would not be for me to revisit that even if we wanted to. The purpose of that legislation, whi...

Robert Jenrick | 704 cc714-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will make progress, if my right hon. Friend does not mind.

The Bill was born out of two i...

Mark Tami | 704 c715 (Link to this contribution)

I agree fully with that point. As the right hon. Gentleman said, this practice had largely gone a...

Robert Jenrick | 704 c715 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right; I do not disagree in any way. The north-west was pa...

Matt Rodda | 704 c715 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate the work that the right hon. Gentleman has done to try to get the right balance and ...

Robert Jenrick | 704 c716 (Link to this contribution)

I think it should be kept under review, like any permitted development. As we have seen with past...

Desmond Swayne | 704 c716 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Robert Jenrick | 704 c716 (Link to this contribution)

I will, but I appreciate that many other hon. Members want to speak.

Desmond Swayne | 704 c716 (Link to this contribution)

As I do!

It would be quite unlawful for the capital cost of the communal areas in a retirem...

Robert Jenrick | 704 cc716-7 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend gets to the nub of the issue. The debate, exactly as he says, was whether it...

Justin Madders | 704 cc717-9 (Link to this contribution)

Let me first put it on record that, alongside the hon. Members for Worthing West (Sir Peter Botto...

Matt Rodda | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an important speech and he has hit on a number of central issues, partic...

Justin Madders | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an interesting point. There is clearly an imbalance. We have already talked ...

Mark Tami | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has mentioned management fees, which I see as the next scandal coming down the roa...

Justin Madders | 704 cc719-720 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend and neighbour for his intervention, which leads me beautifully into ...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 c720 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a good point about what is referred to as “fleecehold.” Does he agre...

Justin Madders | 704 c720 (Link to this contribution)

That is a fair point in theory, but I find it does not happen in practice. I have estates in my c...

Christian Matheson | 704 c720 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the advice my hon. Friend has given to me and my constituents on this matter, a...

Justin Madders | 704 cc720-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend and constituency neighbour makes the point well. It all points to the lack of capa...

Desmond Swayne | 704 c722 (Link to this contribution)

I have had the nub of my argument with my right hon. Friend the Member for Newark (Robert Jenrick...

Matt Rodda | 704 cc722-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in tonight’s debate. I wish not only to address a number of issues that...

Mark Tami | 704 c723 (Link to this contribution)

I totally agree with my hon. Friend. Quite often, the moment the developers sell the last propert...

Matt Rodda | 704 cc723-4 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. There should be much stricter rules on this issue,...

Matt Western | 704 c725 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some incredibly important points. I have parallels in my constituency, a...

Matt Rodda | 704 c725 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention, because he shows that there is a wider issue with th...

Theresa Villiers | 704 cc725-6 (Link to this contribution)

I refer to my declaration in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, which includes an inve...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 c726 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an important point. Would the code of conduct to which she refers—...

Theresa Villiers | 704 cc726-7 (Link to this contribution)

We would certainly need a cap, and the sort of levels that my hon. Friend mentions sound reasonab...

Matt Rodda | 704 c727 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that the right hon. Lady wishes to make a point about the importance of shared owner...

Theresa Villiers | 704 c727 (Link to this contribution)

The fact that English property law is unique does not necessarily mean that it is wrong, but I ac...

Stephen Hammond | 704 cc727-8 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say to my hon. Friend the Minister how much I think everyone across this House supports hi...

Jane Hunt | 704 cc728-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to speak in support of this Bill. I have one or two points to raise, but in genera...

Matt Western | 704 c729 (Link to this contribution)

I share a lot of the hon. Lady’s concerns about what her constituents are experiencing. Many thou...

Jane Hunt | 704 cc729-730 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether that is part of the main course that is coming up. I am not sure; we will see, I...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 cc730-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak after my former colleague in the Cabinet Office, my hon. Friend the Mem...

Matt Rodda | 704 cc731-2 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely appreciate the difficulties that the hon. Gentleman is outlining, including indeed i...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 c732 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes some good points and I am not saying that in certain circumstances commo...

Robert Jenrick | 704 c732 (Link to this contribution)

Yet it is done in every other country in the world—is that not the point? I share my hon. Friend’...

Kevin Hollinrake | 704 cc732-3 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend raises a good point and has an advantage over me as I do not know in depth h...

Mike Amesbury | 704 cc733-5 (Link to this contribution)

This is a Bill not for the many but just for the new leaseholders. Ministers have now heard the s...

Christopher Pincher | 704 c735 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Front Benchers from the official Opposition for their support for the Bill. I am grat...

Desmond Swayne | 704 c735 (Link to this contribution)

The case for an amendment—I thank the Minister for his guidance in that respect—on the retirement...

Christopher Pincher | 704 cc736-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend; he is not so much an ornament as an energetic battery in t...

Tim Farron | 704 c738 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. No Minister came to this House today to address the appal...

Nigel Evans | 704 c738 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for giving notice of his point of order. He mentions a number of areas in...

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