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Nationality and Borders Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 20 July 2021, in the House of Commons, led by Bambos Charalambous. The answering member was Chris Philp.
Second reading (day two). Debate on second reading and reasoned amendment resumed. Amendment negatived on division (265 to 359). Main question agreed to on division (366 to 265). Programme motion relating to proceedings on committal, in Public Bill Committee, consideration, third reading and other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Money resolution. Agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Ways and means resolution agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
699 cc827-927 
Session
2021-22
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Nationality and Borders Bill 2021-22
Tuesday, 6 July 2021
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Alberto Costa | 699 cc827-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to warmly welcome many of the measures outlined in this Bill, specifically those t...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 699 c828 (Link to this contribution)

We begin with a time limit for Back-Bench speeches of six minutes.

1.49 pm


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Chris Stephens | 699 cc828-830 (Link to this contribution)

First, I thank the hundreds of constituents who have written to me asking me to oppose the Bill, ...

Damian Collins | 699 cc830-2 (Link to this contribution)

The Nationality and Borders Bill is important and necessary legislation to address the growing pr...

Stella Creasy | 699 cc831-3 (Link to this contribution)

In 1933, Einstein lived in Norfolk, guarded by local residents and a Conservative MP to prevent a...

Jacob Young | 699 cc833-5 (Link to this contribution)

This Bill is incredibly wide-ranging, and I associate myself with the remarks made by my hon. Fri...

Steven Bonnar | 699 cc835-6 (Link to this contribution)

Disturbing, dysfunctional and destructive—three of the most commonly used words by my constituent...

Jo Gideon | 699 cc836-7 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity to take part in this important debate. Many contributions during yester...

Gavin Robinson | 699 cc837-9 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate the opportunity to contribute to this debate. One benefit of having it over two days...

Tim Loughton | 699 cc839-841 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support this Bill, which contains some sensible measures, particularly on regularising ...

Olivia Blake | 699 cc841-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am proud to represent Sheffield, Hallam. Sheffield was the first place to call itself a city of...

Joy Morrissey | 699 cc842-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will support the Bill. I welcome the aim to establish a plan that will resolve some of the hist...

Anum Qaisar | 699 cc843-4 (Link to this contribution)

May I begin by wishing the Muslim community in my constituency of Airdrie and Shotts and across t...

Rob Roberts | 699 c844 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Airdrie and Shotts (Anum Qaisar-Javed). It will co...

Stuart C McDonald | 699 c844 (Link to this contribution)

What the hon. Member is advocating and what the Government have in this Bill is a criminal offenc...

Rob Roberts | 699 cc844-6 (Link to this contribution)

I recall serving with the hon. Gentleman on the Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU...

Kerry McCarthy | 699 cc846-7 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to start by echoing what the hon. Member for Airdrie and Shotts (Anum Qaisar-Javed) ...

Antony Higginbotham | 699 c847 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bristol East (Kerry McCarthy).

During the 20...

Joanna Cherry | 699 c848 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman describes the people who seek the refuge of those boats—who seek that terri...

Antony Higginbotham | 699 c848 (Link to this contribution)

Because this Bill tells people that there are safe and legal ways to get to the United Kingdom, a...

Alison Thewliss | 699 cc848-850 (Link to this contribution)

Eid Mubarak to my constituents and all who are celebrating.

There are lots of things I coul...

Stephen Farry | 699 cc849-852 (Link to this contribution)

Overall, this is a horrible and unnecessary Bill. The UK does not have a problem with asylum seek...

Margaret Greenwood | 699 cc852-3 (Link to this contribution)

The 1951 UN refugee convention, which was signed by a Labour Government, was born out of the afte...

Lia Nici | 699 cc853-4 (Link to this contribution)

The subject of immigration is of great importance to my constituents in Great Grimsby. They have ...

Ruth Jones | 699 cc854-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me in this important debate. Like others,...

Mick Whitley | 699 cc855-6 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity to speak in a debate that has enormous implications for so many of my c...

Sally-Ann Hart | 699 cc856-7 (Link to this contribution)

Should nations prevent anyone from crossing their borders? We are all citizens of the world, so s...

Kate Osborne | 699 cc857-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for calling me to speak in this debate today, Madam Deputy Speaker. I would like to foc...

Beth Winter | 699 cc858-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is distressing that the Government are pushing ahead with this deeply disturbing Bill. A patte...

Tim Farron | 699 cc859-861 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill feels like a series of poor choices made on the basis of ignorance of the evidence, or m...

Neil O'Brien | 699 cc861-2 (Link to this contribution)

The reason we need to take action through this Bill today is not, as the hon. Member for Westmorl...

Helen Hayes | 699 cc862-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to see you in the Chair, Madam Deputy Speaker.

I rise to speak again...

James Sunderland | 699 c864 (Link to this contribution)

Since I was elected to Parliament, one of the issues that I have been left in no doubt about what...

Stuart C McDonald | 699 c864 (Link to this contribution)

Even on its own terms, that will not work. There is not a shred of evidence in the world that tin...

James Sunderland | 699 cc864-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am pretty clear that the Bill is designed to do exactly what I said it is designed to do. What ...

Joanna Cherry | 699 cc865-6 (Link to this contribution)

May I say what a particular pleasure it is, Madam Deputy Speaker, to see you in the Chair today?<...

Antony Higginbotham | 699 c866 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady says that this Bill seeks to address a problem that does not exist, so ...

Joanna Cherry | 699 cc866-7 (Link to this contribution)

When I said that the Bill addresses a problem that does not exist, one of the previous speakers t...

Angela Crawley | 699 c867 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. and learned Friend is making the point very eloquently. So many people who come here thro...

Joanna Cherry | 699 cc867-8 (Link to this contribution)

What I would say to them, what the Scottish Government have said to them and what my party says t...

Chris Philp | 699 c868 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. and learned Lady give way?

Joanna Cherry | 699 c868 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I am coming to an end.

Alyn Smith | 699 c868 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to see you in your place, Madam Deputy Speaker; thanks for the slight jolt, as I...

Chris Philp | 699 c868 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman for being a little more accommodating than the hon....

Alyn Smith | 699 cc868-9 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister, I presume inadvertently, actually makes my point for me. Scotland, under my party’s...

Robert Goodwill | 699 c869 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the case that the UK worked with the UNHCR in the refugee camps in places such as Jorda...

Alyn Smith | 699 cc869-870 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for making that point. I hope I have made it clear that there ar...

Judith Cummins | 699 c870 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am changing the speaking time limit to seven minutes, with immediate effect.

4.17 ...

Richard Holden | 699 c870 (Link to this contribution)

It is great to see you in your new place today, Madam Deputy Speaker.

I am not against immi...

Craig Williams | 699 c870 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent point. Will he also reflect on the fact that 25,000 is more...

Richard Holden | 699 cc870-1 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. What I keep noticing today is that Opposition Members seem to be pushing ...

Angela Crawley | 699 c871 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member makes a number of points that suggest the view of his constituents is the view of...

Richard Holden | 699 cc871-2 (Link to this contribution)

My constituents are very happy to welcome genuine refugees to the UK. We are taking them now, unl...

Joanna Cherry | 699 c872 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Richard Holden | 699 cc872-3 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not giving way to the hon. and learned Lady. I have already given way twice.

Far t...

Richard Burgon | 699 c873 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to welcome as Deputy Speaker one of my former neighbours from Cross Gates ...

Robert Goodwill | 699 c873 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that some of the most vulnerable and needy people are from Syria? W...

Richard Burgon | 699 c873 (Link to this contribution)

It appears that there is a twitching of a conscience one Bench back from the Tory Front Bench. If...

Stuart C McDonald | 699 c873 (Link to this contribution)

To bring things a little more up to date, if we are looking at the statistics about who is in the...

Richard Burgon | 699 c874 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point and brings some reality to this debate. This reaction...

Jonathan Gullis | 699 c874 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Richard Burgon | 699 cc874-5 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way. I will only give way if the hon. Gentleman wants to stand up and say he ...

Jonathan Gullis | 699 c875 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I seek your advice. The hon. Gentleman has thrown the ...

Judith Cummins | 699 c875 (Link to this contribution)

Order. That is just a point of debate. It is not a point of order. Moving back to the debate, I c...

Kenny MacAskill | 699 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to start by saying what neither I nor, I believe, anybody else expressing opposition...

Aaron Bell | 699 c876 (Link to this contribution)

Does not the hon. Gentleman agree that the Bill does still provide a route for the most vulnerabl...

Kenny MacAskill | 699 c876 (Link to this contribution)

No; I think it is just creating so many obstacles that it will make life extremely difficult for ...

Duncan Baker | 699 c876 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman just mentioned that we need to know about organised crime. Is it not right tha...

Kenny MacAskill | 699 c876 (Link to this contribution)

With regard to serious and organised crime, certainly in Scotland, and I think through the NCA, i...

Jonathan Edwards | 699 c877 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the hon. Member for the very informed comments that he is making from ...

Kenny MacAskill | 699 c877 (Link to this contribution)

I fully agree, and I am grateful to the hon. Member for his eloquent contribution.

Opposing...

Richard Holden | 699 c877 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that is what the UK Government are proposing at all. The hon. Gentleman opposes of...

Kenny MacAskill | 699 cc877-8 (Link to this contribution)

If people have to be detained we have measures for detaining them, but in the main we do not have...

Craig Williams | 699 c878 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Kenny MacAskill | 699 c878 (Link to this contribution)

No, not at the moment.

That tells us where the areas of conflagration are and where the are...

Craig Williams | 699 c878 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Kenny MacAskill | 699 c878 (Link to this contribution)

No, I have to make some progress.

We have to make progress, because it goes against the val...

Craig Williams | 699 c878 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Kenny MacAskill | 699 cc878-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, not at the moment.

That was followed by those who fled Ireland during the famine and, s...

Gareth Bacon | 699 c879 (Link to this contribution)

This Bill, of course, reflects a manifesto commitment from the Conservative party at the last ele...

Jonathan Edwards | 699 c879 (Link to this contribution)

The House of Commons Library briefing on this issue indicates that, at the beginning of the centu...

Gareth Bacon | 699 c879 (Link to this contribution)

I do not believe so, and I do not recall using the word “deluge”. It is undeniably a problem, and...

Duncan Baker | 699 c879 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a wonderful speech. He has made two points that I have sat up at. The fi...

Gareth Bacon | 699 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend entirely. Having listened to the debate on the monitor in my office, ...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c880 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made a very important point about travelling through safe countries, but does ...

Gareth Bacon | 699 c881 (Link to this contribution)

I do agree with my hon. Friend. It is a fact that people will travel, often by land, through seve...

Paul Blomfield | 699 cc881-3 (Link to this contribution)

Albeit remotely, may I join colleagues in saying what a pleasure it is to welcome you to the Chai...

Shaun Bailey | 699 c883 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious that there have been many contributions, so I fear that this will be slightly repe...

James Gray | 699 c883 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend’s description of the by-election in his constituency is absolutely typical. Is it ...

Shaun Bailey | 699 cc883-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. I have a lot of respect for the hon. Members for Enfield,...

Shaun Bailey | 699 c884 (Link to this contribution)

Not at this point. I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, but I will just make a bit more progres...

Felicity Buchan | 699 c884 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that when we have genuine asylum seekers, we want to make the system fa...

Shaun Bailey | 699 cc884-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention, which leads me to the point I am trying to make: we...

Alexander Stafford | 699 c885 (Link to this contribution)

On the economic migrant point, did my hon. Friend see the reports in the paper yesterday about th...

Shaun Bailey | 699 cc885-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has articulated that really well. Obviously, the Bill is part of that wider jigsaw...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 c886 (Link to this contribution)

Where to start, Madam Deputy Speaker? Thank you for calling me to speak—I think.

As many Me...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 cc886-7 (Link to this contribution)

No!

Our legal standing on the international stage relies on this concept. Are we not in the...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 c887 (Link to this contribution)

Well, okay, if it gives me extra time, I will take an intervention.

Alexander Stafford | 699 c887 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is talking about costs and the costs of, as she says, locking up asylum seekers, bu...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 cc887-8 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not funny, Madam Deputy Speaker, that all afternoon Government Members have been saying, “W...

Duncan Baker | 699 c888 (Link to this contribution)

There is an awful lot of talk about refugees. First, would the hon. Lady like to comment on the f...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 c888 (Link to this contribution)

On the hon. Gentleman’s first point, that is not true. We have just heard—he was clearly not list...

Stuart C McDonald | 699 c889 (Link to this contribution)

The most important thing is to have a sense of perspective. Everyone supports safe, legal routes,...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 c889 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree, as I always do, with everything that my hon. Friend says.

I ask Conserv...

Anne McLaughlin | 699 c889 (Link to this contribution)

I want to come on to my last point, and I do not get an extra minute.

The Home Secretary se...

John McDonnell | 699 cc889-891 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened to the debate over the two days and the best thing for us all individually to do ...

David Simmonds | 699 cc891-3 (Link to this contribution)

Compassion and robustness go hand in hand when it come to the way in which we manage our borders....

Christian Wakeford | 699 cc893-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour and a privilege to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Ruislip, Northwood and Pi...

Joy Morrissey | 699 c894 (Link to this contribution)

I find it interesting that Labour Members are not here today. They throw odd comments over the vi...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c894 (Link to this contribution)

It is almost like they are creating another argument for the Online Safety Bill. They want to ins...

Tom Hunt | 699 c894 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that when Labour Members point at us and imply that we are racist, they...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c894 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree with my hon. Friend any more; he puts it far more succinctly than I possibly co...

Duncan Baker | 699 c894 (Link to this contribution)

I am thinking of the clock entirely, but I would like to explore the serious point that my hon. F...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c895 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my hon. Friend. We are seeing a party that wants to fight the deportation...

Jerome Mayhew | 699 c895 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard from the hon. Member for Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East (Stuart C. McD...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c895 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend gets very much to the crux of the problem. I am not going to talk about what thres...

John Hayes | 699 c895 (Link to this contribution)

That abuse is not limited to people smugglers. It extends to the so-called human rights lawyers w...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c896 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for those meaningful comments. I was not going to touch on that matt...

Jerome Mayhew | 699 c896 (Link to this contribution)

May I elaborate on that point? As a former member of the Bar, I struggle to criticise members of ...

Christian Wakeford | 699 c896 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. and, perhaps, learned Friend for his further comments. As I said earlier, this go...

Nigel Evans | 699 c897 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The wind-ups will begin at 6.36 pm, and by my reckoning, because there were two late addit...

Jim Shannon | 699 c897 (Link to this contribution)

I wish not only to speak about the Bill, but to describe the type of Bill that I would like it to...

Alison Thewliss | 699 c897 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a good point about religious persecution. Does he agree that sometim...

Jim Shannon | 699 cc897-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention. I agree with her.

The Minister knows that I hav...

Nigel Evans | 699 cc898-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank Mr Shannon for his co-operation, but the Clerk informs me that trauma management is one o...

Peter Gibson | 699 cc899-900 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shan...

Aaron Bell | 699 cc900-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Darlington (Peter Gibson). As my hon. Fr...

Jonathan Gullis | 699 c901 (Link to this contribution)

Good luck winning back Newcastle!

Aaron Bell | 699 cc901-2 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, indeed.

To conclude, the British people have repeatedly voted, most recently in 2019, ...

Matt Vickers | 699 cc902-3 (Link to this contribution)

Since I was elected in 2019, one thing many of my constituents have told me they want to see is t...

Duncan Baker | 699 cc903-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am slightly disappointed: not only do I not get nine minutes to speak, but there are no Opposit...

Paul Bristow | 699 cc904-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for North Norfolk (Duncan Baker).

I wil...

Nigel Evans | 699 c905 (Link to this contribution)

There are 13 minutes before the wind-ups and there are three speakers left, so if you all speak f...

Dehenna Davison | 699 cc905-6 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, it is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough (Paul Bristow), wh...

Robert Goodwill | 699 c906 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that often the fee paid is only the down payment to a life of modern sl...

Dehenna Davison | 699 cc906-7 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my right hon. Friend. There was a very interesting report in, I think, Th...

Tom Hunt | 699 cc907-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Bishop Auckland (Dehenna Davison). In Ip...

Andrew Jones | 699 cc908-9 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for working so hard to get all colleagues in.

The issue of ou...

Nigel Evans | 699 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sorry, Andrew, we have to leave it there.

6.36 pm

Bambos Charalambous | 699 cc909-910 (Link to this contribution)

We have had a lively debate, and I want to pay tribute to the many excellent speeches made on thi...

Steve Baker | 699 c910 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has said twice that the Bill was rushed, but we are now at the end of the seco...

Bambos Charalambous | 699 c910 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member misunderstands me. It is the process of the Bill getting here that has been rushe...

Stuart C McDonald | 699 c910 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill has seven placeholder clauses—something I have never seen before—so the House will not s...

Bambos Charalambous | 699 cc910-1 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member makes an excellent point.

Less than a week ago, we had hon. Members rightly...

Aaron Bell | 699 c911 (Link to this contribution)

If France will not take people, does the hon. Gentleman agree with the proposal in the Bill that ...

Bambos Charalambous | 699 c911 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member is running roughshod over international law. I would be interested to see which t...

Robert Goodwill | 699 c911 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Member accept that the basic principle of asylum is that people should claim asylum...

Bambos Charalambous | 699 cc911-2 (Link to this contribution)

I invite the right hon. Member to read the refugee convention and he will find there what the act...

Tom Hunt | 699 c912 (Link to this contribution)

It is wrong to say that there is no difference between somebody who has broken the law by coming ...

Bambos Charalambous | 699 c912 (Link to this contribution)

Criminalising people who have come to this country irrespective of what they have left behind mak...

John Hayes | 699 c912 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Bambos Charalambous | 699 cc912-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious of time. I have to sit down in three minutes.

The Law Society of England and...

Chris Philp | 699 cc913-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all Members who have spoken in this extremely thorough two-day debate.

The public e...

Stuart C McDonald | 699 c914 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister talks of what the public expect, but one thing I do not think they would expect is f...

Chris Philp | 699 c914 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman mentions Syrians fleeing war crimes. Our resettlement programme has principall...

Chris Philp | 699 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a moment. There is no worse example of that than the small boats crossing the ...

John Hayes | 699 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that my hon. Friend has brought us this Bill. He deserves great credit for it, alo...

Chris Philp | 699 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his very timely intervention and I agree with what he says. This...

Chris Philp | 699 cc915-6 (Link to this contribution)

I must finish soon. I apologise.

My right hon. Friend the Member for South Holland and The ...

Chris Stephens | 699 c916 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has referred to Glasgow’s dispersal area, but there are also individuals who have co...

Chris Philp | 699 cc916-7 (Link to this contribution)

Where somebody claims to be, or says they are, under 18, if there is any doubt, there is already ...

Nigel Evans | 699 c917 (Link to this contribution)

I am anticipating two votes. Even though we have relaxed the regulations, I still urge Members to...

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