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TB in Cattle and Badgers

Debate on Wednesday, 23 October 2019, in the House of Commons, led by Ruth George. The answering member was George Eustice.
Motion this House has considered government policy on TB in cattle and badgers. Agreed to on question. Sitting suspended.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
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Session
2019-19
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
TB in cattle and badgers
Tuesday, 22 October 2019
Research briefings
Proceeding contributions
Ruth George | 666 c1WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered government policy on TB in cattle and badgers...

Rachael Maskell | 666 c1WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for bringing forward this debate. I find it deeply distressing th...


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Ruth George | 666 c1WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree that biosecurity needs to be considered, along with measures on trading and high-risk are...

Jim Shannon | 666 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for bringing forward this debate. I represent a constituency where the cont...

Ruth George | 666 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. That is a very sensible approach. It is costly, but so is culling badgers, which does...

Bill Wiggin | 666 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

We have heard the number of badgers that have been culled. What estimate has the hon. Lady made o...

Ruth George | 666 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

The Derbyshire Wildlife Trust has vaccinated 192 badgers this year as part of its five-year progr...

Tim Farron | 666 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is being very generous in giving way. She is right that this issue is massively imp...

Ruth George | 666 cc2-3WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Although farmers are at the vagaries of many things, we should at least try to set co...

Jane Dodds | 666 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady agree that any strategy on bovine TB needs to use all the tools in the toolbox...

Ruth George | 666 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

I do agree that Governments in all parts of the United Kingdom—particularly in England, Wales and...

James Gray | 666 c4WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Lady on making a well-balanced and sensible speech, taking neither one si...

Ruth George | 666 cc4-5WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Any of us who has had a pet put down knows how painful that can be, so a farmer havin...

Ruth George | 666 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

I will have to make some progress, as there are several more speakers to come in. I am sure the h...

Bill Wiggin | 666 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady give way? I will explain why.

Ruth George | 666 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman can make a short point on that.

Bill Wiggin | 666 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

The smaller herds are beef suckler herds and the larger herds are dairy herds. The cows also live...

Ruth George | 666 cc5-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that point. I have beef suckler herds and dairy herds, and they bo...

Phil Wilson | 666 c6WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. Quite a few Members want to speak. The hon. Lady has been good at giving way, but I hope s...

Kerry McCarthy | 666 c6WH (Link to this contribution)

I have been out with Avon Wildlife Trust, which has an excellent badger vaccination programme. Th...

Ruth George | 666 cc6-7WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. We would not want that to happen in Derbyshire either.

In 2014, 20% of culls we...

Phil Wilson | 666 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. Is the hon. Lady coming to the end of her speech? She has been speaking for 25 minutes, an...

Ruth George | 666 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

Am I okay to finish by 10 am, within four minutes?

Phil Wilson | 666 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

You are eating into the time of other Members—that is what I am saying. If you could come to a co...

Ruth George | 666 cc7-8WH (Link to this contribution)

Right. This is a much more popular debate than I had envisaged for 9.30 on a Wednesday morning, s...

Phil Wilson | 666 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. We need to introduce a four-minute time limit on speeches, and we may have to reduce that ...

Tracey Crouch | 666 cc8-9WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Wilson, and I congratulate the hon. Member ...

Fiona Bruce | 666 cc9-10WH (Link to this contribution)

Farmers in my constituency are experiencing the worst difficulties with bTB in their cattle anywh...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 666 cc10-1WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to have caught your eye, Mr Wilson, and also to the hon. Member for High Peak (Ruth...

Bill Wiggin | 666 cc11-2WH (Link to this contribution)

This is not a debate about wildlife lover against farmer; it is about healthy badgers being prote...

Owen Paterson | 666 cc12-3WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Wilson. I congratulate the hon. Member for ...

Robert Goodwill | 666 cc13-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for High Peak (Ruth George) on the very balanced way that she made...

Deidre Brock | 666 cc14-5WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Mr Wilson. There have been so many passionate con...

James Gray | 666 c15WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady has, until now, been making a sensible speech. My memory from my upbringing in Scot...

Deidre Brock | 666 cc15-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that the hon. Gentleman has greater experience of these things, given where he resid...

Robert Goodwill | 666 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

The cull is not about eradicating the badger. Typically, the population will be reduced to about ...

Deidre Brock | 666 cc16-7WH (Link to this contribution)

That is an interesting point. As I understand it, culling badgers actually encourages them, in so...

David Drew | 666 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Wilson. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Mem...

David Drew | 666 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

Obviously we are quite short of time, but I will give way to my constituency neighbour.

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 666 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my constituency neighbour for giving way. He is aware of the latest figures, whi...

David Drew | 666 cc17-8WH (Link to this contribution)

Let me come to that later, because I will point out something slightly different.

We have h...

David Drew | 666 cc18-9WH (Link to this contribution)

May I just continue? I will never finish my speech otherwise, and the Minister will need quite a ...

George Eustice | 666 cc19-21WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for High Peak (Ruth George) on securing this debate and, as severa...

Deidre Brock | 666 c21WH (Link to this contribution)

I may have missed something, but I noted from the Library report that was given to us that the An...

George Eustice | 666 cc21-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I think that was dealt with by my right hon. Friend the Member for Scarborough and Whitby (Mr Goo...

Ruth George | 666 c22WH (Link to this contribution)

What evidence is there for the incidence of the disease in badgers? Will the Minister look to tes...

George Eustice | 666 cc22-3WH (Link to this contribution)

We have a number of approaches. We do some roadkill surveillance in areas to identify where there...

George Eustice | 666 c23WH (Link to this contribution)

I will take a brief intervention and then I will conclude.

Owen Paterson | 666 c23WH (Link to this contribution)

I will make a point briefly. Will the Government look at evidence from other countries, particula...

George Eustice | 666 cc23-4WH (Link to this contribution)

We will look at that evidence, but this is a difficult issue. My right hon. Friend is right that ...

David Drew | 666 c24WH (Link to this contribution)

The one thing that has not been mentioned—I should have mentioned it myself, of course—is cattle ...

George Eustice | 666 c24WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, we are continuing to do cattle vaccinations; that particular research has not been stopped. ...

Ruth George | 666 c24WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank all the Members who have contributed to this very constructive debate and I look forward ...

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