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Local Government Finance

Debate on Tuesday, 5 February 2019, in the House of Commons, led by James Brokenshire. The answering members were Andrew Gwynne and Rishi Sunak.
Motion that the Local Government Finance Report (England) 2019–20 (HC 1916), which was laid before this House on 29 January, be approved. Debated with motions that the Report on Referendums Relating to Council Tax Increases (Alternative Notional Amounts) (England) 2019–20 (HC 1917), and the Report on Referendums Relating to Council Tax Increases (Principles) (England) 2019–20 (HC 1918), which were laid before this House on 29 January, be approved. Double majority required. Agreed to on division (298 to 240). Agreed to by Members representing qualifying constituencies in England (270 to 206 - corrected on 6 February from 208). Motions relating to Reports on Referendums Relating to Council Tax Increases agreed to on question.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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Session
2017-19
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Local Government Finance Report (England) 2019-2020
Tuesday, 29 January 2019
House of Commons papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Referendums Relating to Council Tax Increases (Principles) (England) Report 2019/20
Tuesday, 29 January 2019
House of Commons papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Referendums relating to Council Tax Increases (Alternative Notional Amounts) (England) Report 2019-20
Tuesday, 29 January 2019
House of Commons papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Prostate Cancer
Wednesday, 6 February 2019
Proceeding contributions
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c242 (Link to this contribution)

We come now to the three motions on local government finance, which will be debated together. All...

James Brokenshire | 654 c242 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That the Local Government Finance Report (England) 2019–20 (HC 1916), which ...


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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c242 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following motions:

That the Report on Refere...

James Brokenshire | 654 c242 (Link to this contribution)

Strong, vibrant, resilient communities are, more than ever, key to unlocking a brighter future fo...

Mike Amesbury | 654 c242 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Secretary of State recognise that children’s services are now at crisis point and that t...

James Brokenshire | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

We are spending around £1 billion more than at the start of this Parliament. Some £84 million is ...

Bob Seely | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the £2.7 million extra for the Isle of Wight. More than that, I am delighted that, for ...

James Brokenshire | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is a fine champion of the interests of the Isle of Wight and I commend him for his...

Stephen Lloyd | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State talks about the additional cash for local authorities. I spoke to a collea...

James Brokenshire | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the hon. Gentleman will recognise that East Sussex is part of the business rates pilo...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend join me in congratulating Ian Hudspeth and Oxfordshire County Council o...

James Brokenshire | 654 c243 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to Oxfordshire and to all councils that have been working hard to provide services ...

James Brokenshire | 654 c244 (Link to this contribution)

I will take one more intervention and then I will seek to make some progress.

Gareth Thomas | 654 c244 (Link to this contribution)

Harrow Council is not unique in having had most of its revenue support grant axed over the past s...

James Brokenshire | 654 c244 (Link to this contribution)

I am looking carefully at sustainability and issues relating to local government finance more bro...

James Brokenshire | 654 c244 (Link to this contribution)

I will take one final intervention, but then I will make some progress, because I know that a lot...

Alberto Costa | 654 c244 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that the measures he is outlining will help Leicestershire County...

James Brokenshire | 654 cc244-5 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the Conservative authorities in my hon. Friend’s area for their work, and I commend him...

Dan Poulter | 654 c245 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the extra funding that is going into social care, notwithstanding reductions over the p...

James Brokenshire | 654 c245 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will recognise the work of the better care fund and some of the positives outcomes...

James Brokenshire | 654 c245 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Member for Slough (Mr Dhesi) and then take a couple more intervention...

Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi | 654 c245 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for giving way. A new study by the Centre for Cities shows that Sl...

James Brokenshire | 654 c245 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will recognise the need for us to look carefully at relative needs and resourc...

Anna Soubry | 654 c245 (Link to this contribution)

Nottinghamshire County Council, which is run by an exceptional Conservative group, has had its fu...

James Brokenshire | 654 c246 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the work that councils such as Nottinghamshire have done over the past few years...

Tim Loughton | 654 c246 (Link to this contribution)

I am terribly grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way. West Sussex is thankful for the ad...

James Brokenshire | 654 c246 (Link to this contribution)

I am a strong supporter in the troubled families programme, and I have been a strong believer in ...

James Brokenshire | 654 cc246-7 (Link to this contribution)

I need to make some progress due to the time available for this debate.

To do more, it is c...

Henry Smith | 654 c247 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for including West Sussex in the business rates retention scheme a...

James Brokenshire | 654 c247 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on the way in which he has championed his local area. As a former l...

Clive Betts | 654 c247 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State rapidly skipped over the funding review. Will he confirm that the consulta...

James Brokenshire | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously we will look at all the representations that continue to be made during the review of r...

Kevin Hollinrake | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

Can it be right that prior to the new fairer funding formula central Government grants for inner ...

James Brokenshire | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes the case clearly for undertaking this review and looking at this properly. W...

James Brokenshire | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one last time but then I really must conclude.

John Hayes | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

While mindful of the intervention from the Chairman of the Select Committee—of course it is right...

James Brokenshire | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an important point about rurality, the impact it can have and the cost...

James Brokenshire | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

I must make some progress.

I know that local authorities were also pleased to hear that we ...

Jim Cunningham | 654 c248 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have tried two or three times to draw the Secretary ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c249 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The Secretary of State has the right to take as many or as few interventions as he wishes....

James Brokenshire | 654 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I know that a number of Members wish to speak this afternoon. I ...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c250 (Link to this contribution)

We expected better from this Secretary of State and wanted to see better from this Government. I ...

Karen Buck | 654 c250 (Link to this contribution)

We just had a debate on the police settlement grant. Does my hon. Friend agree that local authori...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c250 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The fact is that councils are the lynchpin of the provision o...

Jim Cunningham | 654 cc250-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. I was rather surprised that the Secretary of State did not...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c251 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, who is a doughty champion of the people of the city of Coventry, is absolutely ri...

Kevin Hollinrake | 654 c251 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman talks about the revenue support grant. How can it be right that a person in Lo...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c251 (Link to this contribution)

I will answer that: a third of the services are more expensive to deliver in urban areas. That is...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c251 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am answering the hon. Gentleman, if he will do me the courtesy of listening.

Every lo...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 cc251-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way later if the hon. Gentleman will allow me.

According to the Local Governmen...

Mike Hill | 654 c252 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a very powerful speech. On the issue of child poverty, we have high debt...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c252 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is what Government Members really need to get about some...

Ian Mearns | 654 c252 (Link to this contribution)

When the Conservatives were in government in the early ’90s and they had to consign the community...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c252 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Scandalously, council tax now equates to 7% of the income of ...

Daniel Kawczynski | 654 c252 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has spoken a great deal about pressures on urban areas, but in my constituency...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c252 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman has fallen into the trap that has been set by his own Ministe...

Ruth George | 654 c253 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for making the excellent point that this is not a dichotomy between rural ...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c253 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and she is also right that it should not be about urban versu...

Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi | 654 c253 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a most powerful argument. Local authorities like Slough are currently ho...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c253 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I pay tribute to his council for all the hard work that it is...

Andrew Gwynne | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a little while.

I have talked about the shift of resources out of some o...

Dennis Skinner | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

It is even worse than that. This ever diminishing cake has now been subject to the Prime Minister...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

Order. [Interruption.] Order. Mr Skinner. Just one second. We cannot use the word “bribes”.

Dennis Skinner | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

This will come out of local government—

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

Order. One of us has to sit down, and unfortunately I just need to say this. We have to make our ...

Dennis Skinner | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

This money will come out of local government—make no mistake—even though it is a bribe. That is w...

Dennis Skinner | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

If you don’t understand, you shouldn’t be in the job.

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that we have got to that level. I said that Members cannot use the word “bribes”, beca...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c254 (Link to this contribution)

I am explaining that that is not the case.

Andrew Gwynne | 654 cc254-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a powerful point. Communities that need help and assistance after nine years...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c256 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I say that we have a lot of speakers to get in? I am going to put in a limit of six mi...

John Stevenson | 654 cc256-7 (Link to this contribution)

Before I make my general comments, may I gently remind the House of the economic mess of 2010 and...

Clive Betts | 654 c257 (Link to this contribution)

I probably agree with most of the points about devolution made by the hon. Member for Carlisle (J...

Kevin Hollinrake | 654 c257 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right about the financial crisis, but does he agree that Labour balanced th...

Clive Betts | 654 cc257-8 (Link to this contribution)

That is quite a good record. If the hon. Gentleman looks back, he will find that one of the probl...

Lyn Brown | 654 c258 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a fabulous speech. I really appreciate what he says about culture and th...

Clive Betts | 654 cc258-9 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely right. We hear people start to say, “What is my council doing for me? What am I gettin...

Marcus Jones | 654 cc259-261 (Link to this contribution)

I have the utmost respect for the hon. Member for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts) and it was good...

Louise Ellman | 654 cc261-2 (Link to this contribution)

Liverpool has received yet another poor local government settlement, but that is no surprise; it ...

Mark Pawsey | 654 cc262-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Dame Louise Ellman), for who...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c263 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We now have to go down to five minutes.

6.21 pm

Christian Matheson | 654 cc263-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Rugby (Mark Pawsey). It is a particular ple...

Robert Neill | 654 c264 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure, as always, to follow the hon. Member for City of Chester (Christian Matheson).<...

Robert Neill | 654 c264 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I will give way to my borough neighbour.

Lord Johnson of Marylebone | 654 c264 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is time we had an adjustment to our local authority’s baseline,...

Robert Neill | 654 cc264-7 (Link to this contribution)

I very much agree with my hon. Friend.

I will now deal with the specifics. Bromley has hist...

Stephen Twigg | 654 cc267-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill), who made a...

Andrew Lewer | 654 cc268-9 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome most of the local government settlement for 2019-20 and its recognition of the work don...

John Bercow | 654 c269 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has made his point with considerable force and clarity, and it will have been ...

Lord Beamish | 654 cc269-270 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start with a couple of facts: there has been a 49.1% reduction in Government core funding ...

Richard Graham | 654 c270 (Link to this contribution)

Earlier this afternoon, in your absence, Mr Speaker, we had a striking contrast in both the style...

Anna Turley | 654 c270 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Richard Graham | 654 cc270-1 (Link to this contribution)

No, let me make this point first.

I remember how Labour grew the cake in Gloucester: by shr...

Richard Graham | 654 cc271-2 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman should listen to this. It was the last Labour-run city council in Gloucester t...

Lyn Brown | 654 cc272-3 (Link to this contribution)

Like other Members, I want to remind Ministers what the places that they have cut so savagely act...

Peter Aldous | 654 cc273-4 (Link to this contribution)

I speak in two capacities: as a Member of Parliament representing a coastal constituency with war...

Wera Hobhouse | 654 cc274-5 (Link to this contribution)

The past few years have seen the deliberate and systematic destruction of local government. It is...

Maria Caulfield | 654 cc275-7 (Link to this contribution)

The funding challenges facing East Sussex County Council are well documented. It has had to make ...

Liam Byrne | 654 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)

I want to start by associating myself with the remarks of the shadow Secretary of State, my hon. ...

Kevin Hollinrake | 654 cc278-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate, and I warmly welcome the Secretary of State’s remarks. ...

Anna Turley | 654 cc279-280 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton (Kevin Hollinrake), a fellow Nor...

John Bercow | 654 c280 (Link to this contribution)

Four-minute speeches are now preferable—much more preferable.

7.23 pm

Rachel Maclean | 654 cc280-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Redcar (Anna Turley).

I rise to put on recor...

Ruth George | 654 cc281-2 (Link to this contribution)

In Derbyshire, we have seen a 60% reduction in our revenue support grant since 2010. Instead, we ...

Huw Merriman | 654 cc282-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for High Peak (Ruth George). She described the challen...

Jack Brereton | 654 cc283-5 (Link to this contribution)

I draw attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.

I am delighte...

Jim McMahon | 654 c285 (Link to this contribution)

We have not heard a great deal today. We expected, perhaps, a rabbit to be pulled out of a hat. W...

Jim Cunningham | 654 c285 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government were serious about helping women and bringing an end to austerity, they could h...

Jim McMahon | 654 cc285-6 (Link to this contribution)

The Government have been very good at shifting money from those who need it most to areas that wi...

Rishi Sunak | 654 cc286-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to close the debate. I start by joining my predecessor, my hon. Friend the Membe...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c289 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I need to hear what the Minister has to say. I am sure that he is nearly at the end.

Rishi Sunak | 654 c289 (Link to this contribution)

We heard a lot about Liverpool and a lot about Surrey. Members of this House should know that hou...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c289 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the House that the motion is subject to double-majority voting: of the whole House and o...

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