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Police Grant Report

Debate on Tuesday, 5 February 2019, in the House of Commons, led by Sajid Javid. The answering members were Diane Abbott, Nick Hurd and Louise Haigh.
Motion that the Police Grant Report (England and Wales) for 2019-20 (HC 1896), which was laid before this House on 24 January, be approved. Double majority required. Agreed to on division (310 to 254). Agreed to by Members representing qualifying constituencies in England and Wales (289 to 244 - corrected on 6 February from 242).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
654 cc189-241 
Session
2017-19
Department
Home Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Police Grant Report (England and Wales) for 2019–2020
Thursday, 24 January 2019
House of Commons papers
House of Commons
Police Grant Report (England and Wales)
Monday, 4 February 2019
Research briefings
Prostate Cancer
Wednesday, 6 February 2019
Proceeding contributions
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Sajid Javid | 654 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That the Police Grant Report (England and Wales) for 2019/20 (HC 1896), whic...

Maria Eagle | 654 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome what the Home Secretary says about supporting the police. Can he therefore explain why,...


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Sajid Javid | 654 c189 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is clearly arguing for more police funding, so I hope she welcomes the settlement, ...

Chris Bryant | 654 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that I do not have much voice.

One of the new tools we have given to the police ...

Sajid Javid | 654 c189 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point, and I thank him for his work in introducing the Assa...

Stephen Lloyd | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

The Home Secretary has already alluded to how policing has changed considerably over the past x n...

Sajid Javid | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Because of the change in demand caused by the rising...

Desmond Swayne | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has rightly drawn attention to the challenges facing the police. Is it fair ...

Sajid Javid | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an important point. It is not fair if police time is taken up by issue...

Sajid Javid | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one more time, and then I want to make some progress.

Jim Cunningham | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

May I make the Home Secretary aware that in parts of Coventry, both in affluent parts and in less...

Sajid Javid | 654 c190 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises the very important issue of knife crime, and I am sorry to hear about t...

Sajid Javid | 654 c191 (Link to this contribution)

I must make some more progress. I will give way later.

The settlement provides the biggest ...

Tom Pursglove | 654 c191 (Link to this contribution)

People in Corby and east Northamptonshire want to see more police out on the beat, catching crimi...

Sajid Javid | 654 c191 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my hon. Friend’s point is an important one. He knows that with PCCs there is a lot of indepe...

Clive Betts | 654 c191 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for Policing and the Fire Service for the supportive comments he has made ab...

Sajid Javid | 654 c191 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman highlights that there are sometimes special situations, and special grants are...

John Redwood | 654 c191 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Home Secretary for understanding the need and coming up with a much better settlement...

Sajid Javid | 654 c192 (Link to this contribution)

I very much agree with my right hon. Friend on that, and I thank him for his support. He highligh...

Paula Sherriff | 654 c192 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Home Secretary agree that as a result of having 21,000 fewer police officers on our stre...

Sajid Javid | 654 c192 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady will know that, when it comes to evidence gathering, a lot is needed by the police;...

Sajid Javid | 654 cc192-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make progress, but I will give way later on.

I want to be clear with the Hous...

Alex Cunningham | 654 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Police recorded crime figures for the last full year showed that police areas with the highest nu...

Sajid Javid | 654 c193 (Link to this contribution)

First, the hon. Gentleman will be all too aware, given his closeness to this, that there are some...

Jack Dromey | 654 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Let me ask the Home Secretary the question that Ministers seem reluctant to answer. Police number...

Sajid Javid | 654 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Where the hon. Gentleman is right is that there have been increases in certain types of crime. Fo...

Richard Burden | 654 c193 (Link to this contribution)

May I press the Home Secretary a little more on these figures? I am talking about the support tha...

Sajid Javid | 654 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Again, the hon. Gentleman, like so many other Opposition Members, has raised the issue of resourc...

Wes Streeting | 654 c194 (Link to this contribution)

It may have slipped the Home Secretary’s mind, but he did not actually answer a very important qu...

Sajid Javid | 654 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I have been clear that in recent years we have seen an increase in certain types of crime, but it...

Sajid Javid | 654 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress, then take some further interventions in a moment.

Supporting pol...

Jim McMahon | 654 c194 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Home Secretary accept that the real lived experience of many people in Greater Mancheste...

Sajid Javid | 654 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Like so many Members, the hon. Gentleman makes an issue of the need for more resources. I have me...

Bob Seely | 654 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the biggest rise in police funds since 2010, which is excellent news for Hampshire and ...

Sajid Javid | 654 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give my hon. Friend that commitment. He makes an important point and I am glad he h...

Angela Eagle | 654 c195 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman seems to be saying that the increases he is talking about will lead to b...

Sajid Javid | 654 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I thought the hon. Lady was taking over my speech for me, but she raises an important point. On f...

Ed Davey | 654 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Home Secretary confirm that the question before the House on the police report is about ...

Sajid Javid | 654 c196 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is wrong in saying that this debate is just about national support. The ...

Sajid Javid | 654 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I need to make some progress.

The police will continue to face pressures, and my commitment...

Marcus Jones | 654 c196 (Link to this contribution)

In Warwickshire, we have one of the smallest police forces in the country, but this year’s and la...

Sajid Javid | 654 c196 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point, and it draws me back to my earlier comment in response t...

Ed Davey | 654 c196 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Is it in order for the Home Secretary to tell me, in answ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 c196 (Link to this contribution)

In fairness, I think you have clarified the record in the way you have read the report.

Sajid Javid | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

Today, every Member of this House can show their support for this increase, for public safety and...

Diane Abbott | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

There can be no question but that the biggest indictment of this Government’s record on law and o...

Ruth George | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. In Derbyshire, my own area, the Government’s ...

Diane Abbott | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point on behalf of her constituents in Derbyshire.

The We...

Steve McCabe | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, does my right hon. Friend think that it is the outspoken nature of the police and ...

Diane Abbott | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I would never accuse the Home Secretary of being so petty. This is what the West Midlands police ...

Conor McGinn | 654 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I strongly endorse what my right hon. Friend is saying. People in my constituency will have liste...

Diane Abbott | 654 c198 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point.

Having spoken about what policing professional...

Anna McMorrin | 654 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that we must also find a way to adequately fund capital cities ou...

Diane Abbott | 654 c198 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point. Later in my remarks, I will come to how the Home Office ...

Gerald Jones | 654 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend recognise that, apart from Leicestershire, where there has been a very ...

Diane Abbott | 654 cc198-9 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly join my hon. Friend in congratulating the Government of Wales, particularly on their ...

Tom Pursglove | 654 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I well recall the right hon. Lady’s predecessor arguing from the Dispatch Box, back in 2015-16, t...

Diane Abbott | 654 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I draw the hon. Gentleman’s attention to the fact that the Labour party is under new management n...

Angela Eagle | 654 c199 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is recognising the truth that resources are connected to results when it com...

Diane Abbott | 654 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. Of course, on Merseyside we have also seen an alarming rise in knife...

Jack Dromey | 654 c200 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech, standing up for our police service. The Gover...

Diane Abbott | 654 c200 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend on the question of unfairness, particularly in relation to the precep...

Sarah Jones | 654 c200 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with what my right hon. Friend is saying. Does she agree that the knife crime ...

Diane Abbott | 654 c200 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right to raise the issue of knife crime prevention orders. One problem is that ...

Vicky Ford | 654 c200 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

Diane Abbott | 654 cc200-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am trying to make some progress.

Maybe the chair of the UK Statistics Authority should ha...

Vicky Ford | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

Diane Abbott | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I have to make progress.

The precept is a tax; it is paid for by increasin...

Stephanie Peacock | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on the powerful speech that she is making. Does she agree tha...

Diane Abbott | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

I agree. The precept is a tax, and Ministers know perfectly well that urban forces tend to be abl...

Lord Beamish | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

There is also a direct shift of spending to local forces on pension liabilities, which the Govern...

Diane Abbott | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an important point. The precept is not a progressive tax.

Vicky Ford | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

Diane Abbott | 654 c201 (Link to this contribution)

The precept is a regressive tax that bears down disproportionately—[Interruption.] Had the hon. L...

Lindsay Hoyle | 654 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

Lots of Members wish to speak and I want to get everybody in, because this issue is important to ...

Andrew Selous | 654 cc202-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the total resources for Bedfordshire police will receive a welcome increase nex...

George Howarth | 654 cc203-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for South West Bedfordshire (Andrew Selous). I agree w...

Marcus Jones | 654 cc204-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is good to see my right hon. Friend the Policing Minister on the Front Bench. I have pursued h...

Lord Beamish | 654 c205 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Marcus Jones | 654 cc205-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way because of the time limit that Mr Deputy Speaker said we should observe. We h...

Maria Eagle | 654 cc206-7 (Link to this contribution)

As my right hon. Friend the Member for Knowsley (Mr Howarth) made clear, central Government fundi...

Richard Drax | 654 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I really do not want to enter the blame game, but I am going to start by just reminding the House...

Lord Beamish | 654 c207 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Richard Drax | 654 cc207-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way. I am afraid I only have a short time. I want to press on.

I cannot...

Mike Hill | 654 cc208-210 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for South Dorset (Richard Drax). Like him, I praise th...

Peter Aldous | 654 cc210-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Hartlepool (Mike Hill).

In the short term, t...

Clive Lewis | 654 cc211-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a genuine pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Waveney (Peter Aldous).

Norfolk cons...

Matt Warman | 654 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by paying tribute to Marc Jones, Lincolnshire’s fantastic police and crime commissioner, ...

Preet Kaur Gill | 654 cc214-5 (Link to this contribution)

Violent crime is rising after years of cuts to the police. The latest figures, published last mon...

Jessica Morden | 654 cc215-6 (Link to this contribution)

Despite warm words from the Government about protecting the frontline, the funding provided in th...

Anna Turley | 654 cc216-7 (Link to this contribution)

Crime, antisocial behaviour and the lack of visible policing is the biggest issue that I face whe...

Mike Amesbury | 654 c217 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that this is nothing but a Tory police tax—no ifs, no buts—on top of th...

Anna Turley | 654 cc217-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and that is what we should call it: a Tory police tax. Not on...

Marsha De Cordova | 654 c218 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the fantastic speech by my hon. Friend the Member for Redcar (Anna Tur...

Marsha De Cordova | 654 cc218-9 (Link to this contribution)

I ask that the Minister show me some respect when I am making my speech. I did not interrupt him,...

Steve McCabe | 654 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be voting against inadequate Government funding tonight. It is as simple as that, no matt...

Ed Davey | 654 cc220-2 (Link to this contribution)

I start by paying tribute to the police throughout our country. When we hear about violent crime,...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c222 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We obviously have to get all our colleagues in before the wind-ups start, so after the nex...

Lord Beamish | 654 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I want to begin by thanking the men and women of Durham constabulary, including the civilian supp...

Judith Cummins | 654 c222 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that the thin blue line is getting thinner? On top of cuts to pol...

Lord Beamish | 654 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

I totally agree. The police should be the last resort, not the first, as they are in many cases. ...

Marcus Jones | 654 c223 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Beamish | 654 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will not.

Let me turn to what the motion is actually about. Durham police’s budget will n...

Tracy Brabin | 654 cc224-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my right hon. Friend the Member for North Durham (Mr Jones), who gave ...

Jonathan Edwards | 654 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)

Unlike Scotland or Northern Ireland, Wales is subject to having its policing policy set by Westmi...

Wes Streeting | 654 cc226-8 (Link to this contribution)

There was a time when the Conservative party claimed to be the party of law and order, yet we do ...

Jack Dromey | 654 cc227-9 (Link to this contribution)

The first duty of every Government is to ensure the safety and security of citizens. Labour took ...

Emma Hardy | 654 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Erdington (Jack Dromey).

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Ruth George | 654 cc230-1 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston upon Hull West and Hessle (Emma Hardy) fo...

Louise Haigh | 654 cc231-4 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a fantastic debate with moving contributions from Members in all parts of the House...

Nick Hurd | 654 cc234-5 (Link to this contribution)

During this vigorous debate, I have clung to the message from Her Majesty the Queen about the nee...

Vicky Ford | 654 c235 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend add Essex police to the list of those that need praise? A new cohort of...

Nick Hurd | 654 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention, and I congratulate—

Lord Beamish | 654 c235 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. We have had a good debate, but it was undersubscribed ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c235 (Link to this contribution)

Nothing disorderly has occurred. The right hon. Gentleman has put on the record his concerns abou...

Nick Hurd | 654 cc235-6 (Link to this contribution)

Divisions do exist. Labour is desperate to assert its narrative that cuts have consequences. On t...

George Howarth | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister offers us the tempting prospect of finding common ground, but does he not realise th...

Nick Hurd | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, I am more than happy to meet the Merseyside MPs, but this settlement is set up to...

Nick Hurd | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way.

I am delighted that police and crime commissioners up and down ...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for establishing the ground rules, Madam Deputy Speaker, and allowing Members to speak,...

Nick Hurd | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with my right hon. Friend, and of course the Labour party has no interest ...

Lord Beamish | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker—

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c236 (Link to this contribution)

It had better be good. It is not fair not to let the Minister respond.

Lord Beamish | 654 c237 (Link to this contribution)

It is good. We have another example of a Member who has not been present for the debate. He is be...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c237 (Link to this contribution)

Sit down. Nothing disorderly has happened and the Minister has the right to respond.

Nick Hurd | 654 c237 (Link to this contribution)

This settlement demonstrates our recognition that our police system needs additional support. We ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 654 c237 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the House that this motion is subject to double-majority voting: of the whole House and ...

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