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Leaving the European Union

e-petition debate on Monday, 19 November 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Liz Twist. The answering member was Chris Heaton-Harris.
Motion that this House has considered e-petition 219905 relating to leaving the European Union. Agreed to on question. Sitting adjourned without Question put.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
649 cc195-236WH 
Session
2017-19
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
E-petition 219905 relating to leaving the European Union
Thursday, 15 November 2018
Research briefings
Proceeding contributions
Liz Twist | 649 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the e-petition relating to leaving the Europe...

Catherine West | 649 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech to open the debate. Does she agree that young people...


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Roger Gale | 649 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. In the expectation that there may be other interventions, can we make them interventions a...

Liz Twist | 649 cc195-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. I certainly agree that we must listen to the voices ...

Catherine West | 649 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that, just over the past 24 hours, two hospital trusts have reported th...

Liz Twist | 649 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend that the fact that is already happening is of real concern.

Graham Stringer | 649 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend accept that there are now more EU citizens working in the NHS than before the...

Liz Twist | 649 cc197-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. I do not have that detailed knowledge, but I am awar...

Susan Elan Jones | 649 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentioned technical experts on Brexit. If the past two and a half years have prove...

Liz Twist | 649 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. Certainly, the demonstration that took place in Nort...

Rupa Huq | 649 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is doing a brilliant job of explaining the petition in layman’s terms, but does sh...

Liz Twist | 649 cc198-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention, which I think covers a point that we looked at befor...

Jo Stevens | 649 c199WH (Link to this contribution)

Bearing in mind what has happened with the Home Office over the Windrush scandal, many constituen...

Liz Twist | 649 c199WH (Link to this contribution)

I do indeed share my hon. Friend’s concerns, especially as in preparation for this speech, I look...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 cc199-200WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. Needless to say, I am opposed to re...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c200WH (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, but I will carry on. The reality has been quite different, with a thriving economy, the fa...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c200WH (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, but I will carry on. The EU has a shrinking share of world trade, and Brexiteers can see t...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c200WH (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to carry on. You have plenty of people on your side who can give way to you.

Roger Gale | 649 c200WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. For the record, there is nobody on my side. I stand alone in debates.

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c200WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise, Sir Roger.

If we were to go on to World Trade Organisation rules when we leave...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c201WH (Link to this contribution)

I am carrying on. The biggest benefit to us leaving on WTO rules is our freedom to sign our own f...

Tom Brake | 649 c201WH (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Sir Roger, can you give us some guidance? It would be really helpful for Mem...

Roger Gale | 649 c201WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the whole Chamber would be absolutely fascinated to know that, but as the right hon. Ge...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 cc201-2WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Sir Roger. Under WTO rules, we will be in control of our own destiny and we will be ab...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c202WH (Link to this contribution)

No, I am nearly finished.

As politicians, we reap what we sow. If we ignore and discard the...

Martin Whitfield | 649 c202WH (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Sir Roger, how can we get on the record that not everyone who sits on the Op...

Roger Gale | 649 c202WH (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman is well aware, that is not a point of order for the Chair, but I think he h...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c202WH (Link to this contribution)

SNP Members are particularly keen to overturn the referendum result, and I suggest they be cautio...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 cc202-3WH (Link to this contribution)

The petition, signed by more than 100,000 people, states that if the Government fail to reach an ...

Peter Grant | 649 c203WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady share the Welsh and Scottish Governments’ view that the Prime Minister’s comme...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 c203WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree, and I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. I will read a few of the words tha...

Christine Jardine | 649 c203WH (Link to this contribution)

On that point, does the hon. Lady agree that it is ridiculous that some children born in this cou...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 cc203-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree that that is absolutely ridiculous. It also goes against all our British values of welcom...

Jim Shannon | 649 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady referred to the withdrawal agreement. Does she accept the opinion of Unionists that...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. Perhaps the Minister can answer that question, a...

Rupa Huq | 649 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a convincing case for people having changed their minds. Two years ago, ...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. I hope that the leader goes on another holiday, so that we have an o...

Jo Stevens | 649 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

Given that voters found out only last Wednesday what they apparently voted for in 2016, the only ...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

When we went to the ballot box on that fateful June day, there was only one question on the ballo...

David Drew | 649 c205WH (Link to this contribution)

Historically in this country we have only ever had one question on the ballot paper. How easy wil...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 c205WH (Link to this contribution)

History will probably show that we did not always get it right. I am not resistant to change. It ...

Tom Brake | 649 cc205-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I must start by saying to the hon. Member for Morley and Outwood (Andrea Jenkyns) that people oft...

Martin Whitfield | 649 c206WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that although the Government are not prepared to release thei...

Tom Brake | 649 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. The Government do not want us to go to the ECJ to get clarification. Regrettably, the...

Catherine West | 649 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman clarify whether the Liberal Democrats were split two or three ways ...

Tom Brake | 649 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

I assure the hon. Lady that we will certainly not split three ways. One Liberal Democrat Member o...

Tom Brake | 649 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

No—that is potentially two ways, but I am confident that we will all be going through the same Di...

David Drew | 649 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

It is not either/or. The question is whether they will support a call for a general election. Tha...

Tom Brake | 649 cc207-8WH (Link to this contribution)

The idea that there will be a general election is one of the obstacles that the Labour party has ...

Jim Shannon | 649 c208WH (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman always gives way, even though we hold practically opposite opinions. Wha...

Tom Brake | 649 c208WH (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, and rightly, the hon. Gentleman will take the decision that his party feels is appropria...

Jim Shannon | 649 c208WH (Link to this contribution)

Northern Ireland is only part of the whole United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, ...

Tom Brake | 649 c209WH (Link to this contribution)

I was not suggesting that the hon. Gentleman’s constituency had voted to remain, but I am pleased...

Jim Shannon | 649 c209WH (Link to this contribution)

Last week, the Select Committee on Northern Ireland Affairs heard expert opinions from representa...

Tom Brake | 649 c209WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the credentials of the hon. Gentleman’s experts are sound, but at an event yesterd...

Martin Whitfield | 649 cc209-210WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger, and to speak in this debate.

...

Catherine West | 649 c210WH (Link to this contribution)

What is my hon. Friend’s view of the facts that have emerged about how the election was run, part...

Martin Whitfield | 649 cc210-1WH (Link to this contribution)

It is interesting that as more and more facts become apparent, people’s confidence in politicians...

Lisa Nandy | 649 cc211-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Petitions Committee for bringing forward this debate and allowing us to consider, wit...

Tom Brake | 649 c212WH (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the hon. Lady welcomes the fact that those people involved in the people’s vote ...

Lisa Nandy | 649 cc212-3WH (Link to this contribution)

Having had some quite tough words for people making that case, it is right to acknowledge how pos...

David Drew | 649 c213WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. I was in Northern Ireland a fortnight ago talking t...

Lisa Nandy | 649 c214WH (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. As we approach Brexit, far too many people are making false promises or a...

Tom Brake | 649 c214WH (Link to this contribution)

Like the hon. Lady, perhaps I can speculate on the reason why the Government are seeking to withh...

Lisa Nandy | 649 cc214-5WH (Link to this contribution)

The difficulty is that we do not know, and we should know. It is our right to know. More importan...

Graham Stringer | 649 c215WH (Link to this contribution)

I debated with my hon. Friend the Member for Wigan (Lisa Nandy) during the referendum campaign, a...

Tom Brake | 649 c215WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way, as he has accused us of not being democratic. Will he ...

Graham Stringer | 649 c215WH (Link to this contribution)

The fact is that we had a vote, and it was hard-fought-for. Like many hon. Members on both sides ...

Peter Grant | 649 c215WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Graham Stringer | 649 cc215-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I have not finished answering this one.

Eventually, a party that agreed that there should b...

Tom Brake | 649 c216WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman accept that there is a difference between a general election, the result ...

Graham Stringer | 649 cc216-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sure, Sir Roger, that if I started to get into matters that may come before the courts, you ...

Peter Grant | 649 c217WH (Link to this contribution)

I am intrigued by the hon. Gentleman’s astonishment at how a Labour MP could possibly make promis...

Graham Stringer | 649 c217WH (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that I completely understand the question. One cannot promise to carry out somethin...

Martin Whitfield | 649 c217WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that there is a difference between a general election, in which parties...

Graham Stringer | 649 cc217-8WH (Link to this contribution)

It was always going to be the case that we would have a different level of knowledge and informat...

Jim Cunningham | 649 c218WH (Link to this contribution)

Over the years, I have been a remainer, and I make no secret of that. It was always an alibi of M...

Graham Stringer | 649 cc218-9WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a number of points. On trade unions rights, there is no doubt that in 1988, ...

Lisa Nandy | 649 c219WH (Link to this contribution)

We rely on our Government being prepared to go back to the EU to seek that ongoing co-operation t...

Graham Stringer | 649 c219WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend, and I hope the Government will go back. I hope that those five Membe...

Tom Brake | 649 c219WH (Link to this contribution)

The difficulty in the hon. Gentleman’s suggestion that those who claim there might be medicine sh...

Graham Stringer | 649 c220WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not think the right hon. Gentleman was listening to what I was saying. We are completely ali...

Philip Hollobone | 649 c220WH (Link to this contribution)

The debate can last until 7.30 pm. We now come to the Front-Bench speeches, after which Liz Twist...

Peter Grant | 649 cc220-1WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Hollobone. I am pleased to be able to begin the summing-up speeches, but I am in tw...

Graham Stringer | 649 c221WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman accept that, when we include the leaflets arguing the case for remain tha...

Peter Grant | 649 c221WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a matter of record how much the UK Government spent. It is not yet a matter of record how m...

Lisa Nandy | 649 c221WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Lisa Nandy | 649 c221WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is indicative of the poor quality of that side of the argum...

Peter Grant | 649 c222WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of the comments the hon. Lady made about the language of the de...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c222WH (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Hollobone.

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c222WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for being lovely. I have never made a point of order before. I did not take any interve...

Philip Hollobone | 649 c222WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am afraid that is not a point of order, and the hon. Lady must not address another Membe...

Peter Grant | 649 c222WH (Link to this contribution)

I have to take the word of the hon. Member for Wigan about what her counterpart has put on Twitte...

Catherine West | 649 c222WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that if there is a further vote, on this question or any other, we ...

Peter Grant | 649 c223WH (Link to this contribution)

There is no doubt at all that the law in these islands has not kept up with modern campaigning te...

Martin Whitfield | 649 c223WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a good point about the use of social media. I point out, with some d...

Peter Grant | 649 c223WH (Link to this contribution)

I will defend the right of anybody, whether they are a politician or a normal person, to take exc...

Tom Brake | 649 c223WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Peter Grant | 649 cc223-5WH (Link to this contribution)

No, I really need to move on. I said that I did not want to take up too much time and I may have ...

Tom Brake | 649 c225WH (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Hollobone. I seek your guidance on whether it is appropriate for Members ...

Philip Hollobone | 649 c225WH (Link to this contribution)

I refer Members to Mr Speaker’s quick guide to participating in the Chamber and Westminster Hall,...

Paul Blomfield | 649 cc225-6WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to wind up the debate for the Opposition with you in the Chair, Mr Hollobone, as...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c226WH (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Hollobone. Earlier, there was talk about respect for people. Is it accept...

Philip Hollobone | 649 c226WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady has made a point of order, whereas I think she probably wanted to intervene on the ...

Paul Blomfield | 649 c227WH (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to do that. I do think that those who have defined their politics by their desire to t...

Tom Brake | 649 c227WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the hon. Gentleman has anticipated the question I will ask, because I raised it earlier...

Paul Blomfield | 649 c227WH (Link to this contribution)

Obviously I did anticipate the right hon. Gentleman’s intervention and he will not be surprised t...

Tom Brake | 649 c228WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for enabling me to correct the record. He will know, of cours...

Paul Blomfield | 649 c228WH (Link to this contribution)

I hate to correct the right hon. Gentleman, but he is wrong. I will send him a copy of his party’...

Peter Grant | 649 c228WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not think that it is slightly strange that the Prime Minister tries to fr...

Paul Blomfield | 649 cc228-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I do; it is a reflection of the corner into which the Prime Minister has painted herself.

P...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 cc229-230WH (Link to this contribution)

This is the first time I have served under your chairmanship, Mr Hollobone. You are a near neighb...

Tulip Siddiq | 649 c230WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister think it is the right way forward—even if, as I understand it, this is the agre...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 c230WH (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Lady will find that that is common in international law across the globe, so yes...

Tom Brake | 649 c230WH (Link to this contribution)

I note with satisfaction that the hon. Gentleman’s visit to Carshalton and Wallington did not del...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 cc230-1WH (Link to this contribution)

Ah, polling. My word; thank God the polls are always correct, eh? I wonder how well the hon. Gent...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 c231WH (Link to this contribution)

You can stick that on your leaflet at the next election. Forgive my hon. Friend the Member for Mo...

Andrea Jenkyns | 649 c231WH (Link to this contribution)

I would prefer for the Minister not to quote my tweet without having read it, so I will read it t...

Philip Hollobone | 649 c231WH (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister responds, I remind him and the hon. Member for Morley and Outwood (Andrea Jen...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 c231WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise if I inadvertently referred to another Member incorrectly; I was talking about the co...

Lisa Nandy | 649 c231WH (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister for his kind words, and in particular for striking a better to...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 c232WH (Link to this contribution)

One of the points that the hon. Lady raised was about the analysis that would be presented to Par...

Tom Brake | 649 c232WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister may want to correct the record. He might think that I am being a bit pedantic, but h...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 cc232-3WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I do think the right hon. Gentleman is being a bit pedantic. As ever, I thank the hon. Membe...

Paul Blomfield | 649 c234WH (Link to this contribution)

I would thank the Minister for allowing me to intervene, but he invited me to do so. I simply res...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 649 cc234-5WH (Link to this contribution)

I do, and I believe that the Prime Minister believes that she has not only very firmly hit those ...

Liz Twist | 649 cc235-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I will keep my remarks brief. We have had a wide-ranging, interesting and lively discussion on th...

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