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NHS Outsourcing and Privatisation

Parliamentary proceeding on Wednesday, 23 May 2018, in the House of Commons.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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641 
Session
2017-19
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Outsourcing and privatisation in the NHS
Wednesday, 23 May 2018
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Proceeding contributions
Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c904 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, that she will be graciou...

Gareth Thomas | 641 c904 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend should also be aware that many walk-in centres have closed. In my constituency, th...


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Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c905 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes the point well. I believe about 50 walk-in centres have closed and there are...

Karen Lee | 641 c905 (Link to this contribution)

Lincoln’s walk-in centre was closed. A consultation was undertaken by the clinical commissioning ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c905 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her contribution. I know that she, as the relatively new Member for Li...

Conor McGinn | 641 c905 (Link to this contribution)

In the St Helens and Knowsley Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust, the spending on agency nurses has qua...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc905-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has, with great eloquence, explained why failing to plan properly on the workforce...

Wes Streeting | 641 c906 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, A&E waiting times would not be as long if the Government were investing properly in pr...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c906 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has hit the nail on the head. The problem is that, when the Government allow our n...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c906 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the former health Minister.

Anna Soubry | 641 c906 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman confirm that five GP surgeries in Broxtowe have been rated outstanding, a...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c906 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that GPs in Broxtowe have been rated outstanding, but patients in Broxtowe will be...

Anna Soubry | 641 c906 (Link to this contribution)

Would the hon. Gentleman like to speak to Nottingham City Council, which is run by Labour? It has...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

I know that Councillor Jon Collins of Nottingham City Council is a talented man, but he does not ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not giving way again. The right hon. Lady has had two chances; she can contribute to the...

Anna Soubry | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Could the record please record that indeed the leader of ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for that. I invite her to make another point of order, becau...

Anna Soubry | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to take that up. My understanding is that Nottinghamshire County Council is looking re...

Lindsay Hoyle | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I just help a little? We have 25 speakers to come in after the Front Benchers, so I ap...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

I shall take your guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker. It is always a pleasure to indulge the right hon. ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c907 (Link to this contribution)

Given that Mr Deputy Speaker has just castigated me, let me make a little progress. Hopefully, I ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc907-8 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker has asked me to make a bit of progress, so let me do so.

Underfunding and...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c908 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a bit of progress because Mr Deputy Speaker has asked me to do so.

I say to the...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c908 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make a bit of progress and then I will try to let others in.

If the Secretary of Sta...

Philip Dunne | 641 c908 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. He is under a lot of pressure, rightly, in this debate...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c908 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the former Minister of State. We do miss him during our exchanges at the Dispatc...

Yvonne Fovargue | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend send his support to the staff from Wigan hospitals who are today striking in ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

I do agree. May I reassure my hon. Friend that those Unite and Unison members who are taking indu...

Lord Soames of Fletching | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. I know him to be a good man. May I put t...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

I say to the right hon. Gentleman, of whom I am tremendously fond, as he knows, that I agree broa...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has been very patient, so I will give way to him.

Jim Cunningham | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has been generous in giving way. Does he agree that private companies are also inc...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton) seems so desperately keen that I wi...

Tim Loughton | 641 c909 (Link to this contribution)

I am really grateful to the shadow Minister. Under the last Labour Government, before Worthing be...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c910 (Link to this contribution)

I can reassure the hon. Gentleman that no, it is not. I agree with the Secretary of State that th...

Gloria De Piero | 641 c910 (Link to this contribution)

Thirty-five pounds a week to watch the basic TV channels from a hospital bed; 60p a minute for a ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c910 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has hit upon a brilliant new campaign, which I am sure she will be running. The ch...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c910 (Link to this contribution)

I will take an intervention from Chesterfield and then I will make some progress.

Toby Perkins | 641 c910 (Link to this contribution)

Chesterfield Royal Hospital is consulting on setting up a subsidiary company. Does it not seem ma...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c910 (Link to this contribution)

In addition, hospitals have wasted millions in consultancy fees in setting up these organisations...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc910-2 (Link to this contribution)

If Members will forgive me, I will make a little bit of progress, and then hopefully we will get ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c912 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Lady because she is a nurse.

Maria Caulfield | 641 c912 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that the any qualified provider system was brought in under the...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c912 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the hon. Lady, whom I greatly respect in this House because of her work in the NHS, that...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c912 (Link to this contribution)

And the CCGs are still paying out to Coperforma—is that not correct?

Maria Caulfield | 641 c912 (Link to this contribution)

With regard to Sussex—I am sure that my right hon. Friend the Member for Mid Sussex (Sir Nicholas...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc912-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Lady accepts that it is a scandal that the CCGs—her local health economy—...

Lord Coaker | 641 c913 (Link to this contribution)

The concerns that my hon. Friend is raising are the same as those raised by the Chair of the Heal...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c913 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, who is extremely experienced, shows with great eloquence the dangers of this rele...

Helen Whately | 641 c913 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. I remember well when I worked in the NHS under a Labou...

Lindsay Hoyle | 641 c913 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Members cannot make speeches in interventions.

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc913-4 (Link to this contribution)

I greatly respect the hon. Lady, and I greatly enjoyed her Red Box blog on mental health provisio...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c914 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my hon. Friend from Lewisham, and then I will make progress.

Vicky Foxcroft | 641 c914 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend. He is right: the candidate in Lewisham East will absolutely be campaignin...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c914 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I wish the Labour candidate in Lewisham East well and will be campaigning with them. ...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c914 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my hon. Friend and then to the hon. Member for Dwyfor Meirionnydd.

Rachael Maskell | 641 c914 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. Is not the biggest scandal of privatisation in fa...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc914-5 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, who is an authority on these matters and campaigned on them for many years before...

Lindsay Hoyle | 641 c915 (Link to this contribution)

It is not about my patience, but about Back Benchers.

Liz Saville Roberts | 641 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I have only one question: will the hon. Gentleman explain why the Welsh Labour Government have ou...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c915 (Link to this contribution)

We have always said that there is a small role for the private sector. This is what I said earlie...

Lindsay Hoyle | 641 c915 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I want to hear Members on both sides, and I certainly want to hear the answer, but I canno...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c915 (Link to this contribution)

We have always said that, and I do not know why Government Members are so surprised about it. Ind...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 cc915-7 (Link to this contribution)

I did say that I would not take any more interventions. I apologise to my hon. Friend; I know her...

Lindsay Hoyle | 641 c917 (Link to this contribution)

Hopefully we will get some Back Benchers in, but I warn them that they will get no more than four...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 cc917-9 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity of this debate to dispel some particularly pernicious myths.

May ...

Julian Knight | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State touches on a point that is very pertinent in my constituency. I met a form...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly the point. Sometimes the quality is high in the private sector and sometimes it i...

Karin Smyth | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening carefully to the Secretary of State’s comments on ideology and the Health and Soci...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

As Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai said about the French revolution, it is too early to tell.

As...

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Secretary of State give way?

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, with great pleasure.

Jonathan Ashworth | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

I really do think the Secretary of State has some brass neck. The Tory party voted against the cr...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c919 (Link to this contribution)

As the shadow Health Secretary knows perfectly well, the way that this House works is that Opposi...

Louise Ellman | 641 c920 (Link to this contribution)

The circumstances around the recent collapse of Carillion have left Liverpool with an unfinished ...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c920 (Link to this contribution)

I can give the hon. Lady that assurance. I am most grateful to her for raising that issue and rea...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c920 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one last time and then I will make some progress.

Jamie Stone | 641 c920 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for giving way. On the issue of freedom of access and equality of ...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 cc920-1 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a fair point, which would be echoed by many Government Members who repre...

Karen Lee | 641 c921 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Secretary of State think it acceptable that ambulances were waiting outside Lincoln A&E ...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 cc921-2 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not think it acceptable at all, but I would ask the hon. Lady to bear it in mind that we...

Alex Chalk | 641 c922 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that it would be completely inconsistent with the Freedom of Info...

Jeremy Hunt | 641 c922 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend speaks extremely wisely. He is right: it would fundamentally weaken the ability of...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 641 c922 (Link to this contribution)

Order. As colleagues will see, a vast number of Members want to speak in the debate. I will impos...

Chris Stephens | 641 cc922-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will be as brief as I can, Madam Deputy Speaker, to accommodate Members with clear constituency...

John Lamont | 641 c923 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Chris Stephens | 641 c923 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I will not take any interventions because many Members with constituency interest...

John Lamont | 641 c923 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Chris Stephens | 641 c923 (Link to this contribution)

I did say that I would not take interventions.

Chris Stephens | 641 cc923-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right: many Members representing English constituencies want to talk about ...

David TC Davies | 641 cc924-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that my hon. Friends the Members for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk (John Lamont) a...

Rosie Duffield | 641 c926 (Link to this contribution)

A few weeks ago, my local NHS trust in east Kent announced that more than 1,000 employees—more th...

Judith Cummins | 641 c926 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. Staff in Bradford have real concern about the plans...

Rosie Duffield | 641 cc926-7 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I was just about to speak about Unison, which is my union.

Leading unions have ...

Helen Whately | 641 c927 (Link to this contribution)

I have a question about what the hon. Lady said regarding the loss of services at Canterbury Hosp...

Rosie Duffield | 641 cc927-8 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that services started to be cut under a Labour Government, but they have got so much wors...

Tom Pursglove | 641 cc928-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Canterbury (Rosie Duffield), but I come at this de...

Liz Twist | 641 cc929-930 (Link to this contribution)

On 6 March, I had the good fortune to secure a debate in Westminster Hall on wholly-owned subsidi...

Alex Chalk | 641 c930 (Link to this contribution)

The allegation of privatisation of the NHS is wholly misconceived. It is a reheated and debunked ...

Helen Whately | 641 c930 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making the point extremely well that there is complete inconsistency in

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Alex Chalk | 641 c931 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I shall give three brief examples from my own constituency. F...

Paul Williams | 641 cc931-2 (Link to this contribution)

I refer the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests: I work as a GP.

Matt Warman | 641 cc932-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Stockton South (Dr Williams) who made a laudable ...

Tracy Brabin | 641 cc933-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to be called to speak in this important debate.

In my constituency, local NHS ...

Chris Green | 641 cc934-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Batley and Spen (Tracy Brabin) and so many other c...

Debbie Abrahams | 641 cc935-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak as a former public health consultant and the chair of a primary care trust.

Huw Merriman | 641 cc936-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to contribute to the debate. I want to start by recognising the achievements of ...

Preet Kaur Gill | 641 cc937-9 (Link to this contribution)

As we have heard, this year marks the 70th anniversary of the creation of our national health ser...

Maria Caulfield | 641 cc939-940 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, want to use this opportunity to debunk the myth that the Conservative party wants to, or ...

Karen Lee | 641 cc940-1 (Link to this contribution)

After eight years of the Government’s austerity agenda, the NHS is on its knees. People in Lincol...

Kevin Foster | 641 cc941-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is quite interesting to be following the speech we just heard. I will not dwell too much on it...

Karin Smyth | 641 cc942-3 (Link to this contribution)

The biggest issue facing the NHS is the money and the workforce, and going into that mix, we have...

Helen Whately | 641 cc943-4 (Link to this contribution)

A constituent wrote to me last year to say that, against the backdrop of negativity around health...

Anneliese Dodds | 641 cc944-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Faversham and Mid Kent (Helen Whately). She spoke ...

John Bercow | 641 c945 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sorry, but in order to accommodate the remaining speakers—I thought that there were fou...

Rachael Maskell | 641 cc945-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Oxford East (Anneliese Dodds). I could n...

Mohammad Yasin | 641 cc946-7 (Link to this contribution)

I remember when I first heard the term STP; I was portfolio holder for adult services at the time...

Emma Hardy | 641 cc947-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will use this opportunity to focus on continuing the great work of my predecessor the right hon...

Alex Cunningham | 641 cc948-9 (Link to this contribution)

For now, NHS trusts remain the sole shareholder in their wholly owned subsidiary companies—yes, j...

John Bercow | 641 c949 (Link to this contribution)

For a maximum of two minutes, I call Hugh Gaffney.

6.49 pm

Hugh Gaffney | 641 c949 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the NHS’s public service workers for all that they do for us. They have stood against cut...

John Bercow | 641 c949 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much indeed.

6.50 pm

Justin Madders | 641 cc949-950 (Link to this contribution)

This has been an interesting, passionate debate with many knowledgeable contributions. My hon. Fr...

Steve Barclay | 641 cc950-2 (Link to this contribution)

The Government oppose the motion. There is no complaint from the Chair of the Health and Social C...

Nicholas Brown | 641 c952 (Link to this contribution)

claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36).

Question put forthwith, That the Quest...

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