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Government’s EU Exit Analysis

Opposition day on Wednesday, 31 January 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Paul Blomfield and Keir Starmer. The answering members were Steve Baker and Robin Walker.
Ordered, that at today's sitting, paragraph (2) of Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendment) shall apply to the Motion in the name of Jeremy Corbyn as if the day were an Opposition Day; and proceedings on the Motion may continue, though opposed, for three hours after commencement of proceedings on the Motion for this Order and shall then lapse if not previously disposed of; and Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions) shall not apply. Unallotted opposition day debate (half day). Agreed to on question.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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635 cc827-877 
Session
2017-19
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Keir Starmer | 635 cc827-8 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, That she will be graciou...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c828 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman had a distinguished career in law before he came to this pla...


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Keir Starmer | 635 c828 (Link to this contribution)

Before I was in this place, I held the post of Director of Public Prosecutions. We took leaks fro...

Catherine McKinnell | 635 c828 (Link to this contribution)

I have repeatedly raised concerns that the north-east and other regions will be hard hit by the v...

Keir Starmer | 635 c828 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend demonstrates that hon. Members have been trying on behalf of their constituencies ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 635 c828 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman described his experience of dealing with leaks. Does he acce...

Keir Starmer | 635 c828 (Link to this contribution)

I agree. It is significant that the original documents that were requested last year were initial...

Keir Starmer | 635 c829 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one more time and then make progress.

Tom Brake | 635 c829 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government are eventually forced to release the impact assessments, as I suspect they will...

Keir Starmer | 635 c829 (Link to this contribution)

We will look at information when it is put into the public domain. We have been looking at analys...

Keir Starmer | 635 c829 (Link to this contribution)

I have taken a number of interventions and will make progress. I will allow interventions later, ...

Keir Starmer | 635 c829 (Link to this contribution)

I will complete this point and then give way.

There is a serious point. Is it seriously Gov...

Keir Starmer | 635 c829 (Link to this contribution)

Before I give way, I will make one further point about the line of defence of rubbishing the anal...

Keir Starmer | 635 c830 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Wirral South (Alison McGovern) and then to the h...

Alison McGovern | 635 c830 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend makes the good point that, yesterday, we saw a pretty grim appro...

Keir Starmer | 635 c830 (Link to this contribution)

I do agree, and that is a very important point. Essentially, the OBR is saying that it cannot do ...

Keir Starmer | 635 c830 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in one minute, but may I just finish this point?

Having been a civil servan...

Vicky Ford | 635 c830 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the shadow Secretary of State for giving way. I agree with him on the important work of t...

Keir Starmer | 635 c830 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. The hon. Lady will remember that one question I asked of the...

Anna Soubry | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. and learned Gentleman for giving way. Can he help us with this: has he est...

Keir Starmer | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. I will answer it, and make a second point as I do so. This i...

Keir Starmer | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I promised that I would give way, and I will.

Hywel Williams | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. and learned Gentleman. Is he aware that, this morning at Welsh qu...

Keir Starmer | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I think that it is, because, otherwise, all that is available are the increasingly stale assessme...

Keir Starmer | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I will press on. [Interruption.] I will give way once, twice and then a third time over there, ju...

Albert Owen | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Arfon (Hywel Williams) makes an important point on where the devolved Adminis...

Keir Starmer | 635 c831 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention, because it is consistent with the point that was made earlie...

Emma Reynolds | 635 c832 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. and learned Friend agree that if the Government had at their disposal any econ...

Keir Starmer | 635 c832 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention, and I agree that it would be highly likely that such materia...

Keir Starmer | 635 c832 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way once more, and then I will get on to the third point.

Charlie Elphicke | 635 c832 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. and learned Gentleman for giving way. Is it his party’s policy to remain i...

Keir Starmer | 635 c832 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Speaker, I rather thought that the point of interventions was to engage in the debate that was...

Keir Starmer | 635 c833 (Link to this contribution)

I will press on, but I will give way again in a minute.

As I have said, only question was a...

Robin Walker | 635 cc833-4 (Link to this contribution)

The Government will not be opposing this motion. As the motion is therefore expected to pass, I w...

Hywel Williams | 635 c834 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard many requests and demands for this information to be published here today and in th...

Robin Walker | 635 c834 (Link to this contribution)

I personally have not yet seen such requests. We do intend to make this information available to ...

Desmond Swayne | 635 c834 (Link to this contribution)

As the Minister is a former economist, can he persuade me that it will be worth my while to visit...

Robin Walker | 635 c834 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend raises an interesting point. I would like to turn to the analysis itself, so...

Robin Walker | 635 c834 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in one moment.

The document is preliminary, unfinished and has only very re...

Lady Hermon | 635 c835 (Link to this contribution)

Since the Conservative party governs with the support of the 10 Democratic Unionist party Members...

Robin Walker | 635 c835 (Link to this contribution)

The simple answer is no. We would make this information available to the whole House on the same ...

Robin Walker | 635 c835 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Lady will give me one moment, I will give way. I just want to complete my point about...

Robin Walker | 635 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. and learned Lady after I have given way to the hon. Member for Bristo...

John Redwood | 635 c835 (Link to this contribution)

I find this conspiracy theory so absurd. The Treasury published very clear and totally wrong shor...

Charles Walker | 635 c835 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes his point well. I think that the point on which we would all agree is ...

Thangam Debbonaire | 635 c836 (Link to this contribution)

I am so grateful to the Minister for being very patient and giving way to me, but I must press hi...

Robin Walker | 635 c836 (Link to this contribution)

As we have said many times, the Government are informed by a wide range of analyses, but I am res...

Robin Walker | 635 c836 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Rushcliffe (Mr Clarke) in a li...

Robin Walker | 635 c836 (Link to this contribution)

Not right now.

Of course, there is a specific role for this sort of modelling, but it must ...

Joanna Cherry | 635 c836 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. Surely the million dollar question is this: if the ...

Robin Walker | 635 c836 (Link to this contribution)

The Prime Minister has set out a very clear strategy for developing an FTA between the UK and the...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 635 cc836-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for announcing that the common-sense decision has been made overnight to s...

Robin Walker | 635 c837 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend knows a lot from his own experience as Chancellor about the conf...

Iain Duncan Smith | 635 c837 (Link to this contribution)

There is another reason that this set of analyses is peculiar and quite different. I listened car...

Robin Walker | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an interesting point and I will leave it to Members to consider it whe...

Vicky Ford | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way and for saying that the information will be made available to...

Robin Walker | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes her point very well. I do not have the answer to her question, but we can ce...

Robin Walker | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

I want to complete my remarks and give other hon. Members a chance to speak, but of course I give...

Keir Starmer | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

I assure the House that I and many of my colleagues have been to see the documents and discussed ...

Robin Walker | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

Returning to the hard work of our officials, if every time any element of their work leaked we we...

Anna Soubry | 635 c838 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. I have to say that, of all the Ministers, I think...

Robin Walker | 635 c839 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend, as always, for her kind praise, but I think I have already...

Robin Walker | 635 c839 (Link to this contribution)

Not now. The public have voted through a referendum to leave the European Union. We must deliver ...

Peter Grant | 635 cc839-840 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the chance to speak in this debate and I commend the main Opposition party for ...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c840 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the hon. Gentleman a very simple question? Does he condone or condemn the leaking of Go...

Peter Grant | 635 c840 (Link to this contribution)

At this point, the answer is no: I neither condone nor condemn because I do not know what the cir...

Geraint Davies | 635 c840 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there is a distinction between a leak and whistleblowing? Whis...

Peter Grant | 635 cc840-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. We have to be careful about language. There is whistleblowin...

Tom Brake | 635 c841 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman that it is clearly important to get this information out into the...

Peter Grant | 635 cc841-2 (Link to this contribution)

Again, this may not be the time for that debate. My position is perfectly clear. We have the resu...

Vicky Ford | 635 c842 (Link to this contribution)

I listened to what the hon. Gentleman said earlier about the sector-by-sector reports and I think...

Peter Grant | 635 c842 (Link to this contribution)

Part of the Government’s response earlier today to the disclosure of these documents was that the...

Peter Grant | 635 c843 (Link to this contribution)

May I deal with the first intervention first, please?

What I said was that the reason I had...

Peter Grant | 635 c843 (Link to this contribution)

I did say I would give way to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Edinburgh South West (Joa...

Joanna Cherry | 635 c843 (Link to this contribution)

As usual, my hon. Friend is being modest. He is not explaining to the House that he is a member o...

Peter Grant | 635 c843 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. I am aware of the time, and I do not want to impinge too muc...

Peter Grant | 635 c843 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way once more, but I hope the intervention is a bit more relevant than the earlier on...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c843 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his gracious approach to my intervention. It is just that he is co...

Peter Grant | 635 cc844-5 (Link to this contribution)

The reason that Conservative Back Benchers will abstain in this debate is that the Government Whi...

Anna Soubry | 635 c845 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Glenrothes (Peter Grant), although obviously I did...

Geraint Davies | 635 c845 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

Anna Soubry | 635 cc845-6 (Link to this contribution)

In a moment.

The reality of these documents, of course, is that finally it seems that our G...

Desmond Swayne | 635 c846 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend said that the Prime Minister had not set out what she wanted. I contend that...

Anna Soubry | 635 cc846-7 (Link to this contribution)

With great respect to my right hon. Friend, that is absolute nonsense, and the good people of thi...

Stephen Kinnock | 635 c847 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is giving a passionate speech. The one thing that the Prime Minister has said...

Anna Soubry | 635 c847 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman—I nearly called him my Friend, although on this he is, because he...

Alison McGovern | 635 c847 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady has hit on the heart of the problem, which is that the Government will not sa...

Anna Soubry | 635 c847 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is quite right—she can be my Friend in this debate, because she makes an important ...

Pat McFadden | 635 c848 (Link to this contribution)

I have huge respect for the right hon. Lady on this issue. Does she agree that we would not be he...

Anna Soubry | 635 c848 (Link to this contribution)

This is an astonishing idea. The right hon. Gentleman—he is definitely my Friend today—seems to b...

Geraint Davies | 635 c848 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that these analyses are provisional, incomplete and not fit for purpose, so is ...

Anna Soubry | 635 cc848-9 (Link to this contribution)

Well, no, because I thought the conclusion to phase 1 was actually quite good, so I am certainly ...

Tom Brake | 635 c849 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Lady for giving way, and I am hoping that she might say that I can be her ...

Anna Soubry | 635 cc849-850 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman and I used to be friends, because we used to be in coalition, so he can ...

Anna Soubry | 635 c850 (Link to this contribution)

I will quickly give way before the bird lands.

Joanna Cherry | 635 c850 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for giving way. She is making a truly outstanding speech, an...

Anna Soubry | 635 c850 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady is right—she, too, could become my friend for the day. In all seriousne...

Wera Hobhouse | 635 c850 (Link to this contribution)

We are starting to have that very important discussion about the fact that, as I put it, the peop...

Anna Soubry | 635 cc850-1 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with most of what the hon. Lady says. The point in all of this is that this has to come f...

Hilary Benn | 635 cc851-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry), and I echo wha...

Seema Malhotra | 635 c852 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend just pointed to the extraordinary circumstance whereby we see Ministers agai...

Hilary Benn | 635 c852 (Link to this contribution)

I agree absolutely. Indeed, I made the point yesterday about the importance of transparency and a...

Tom Brake | 635 c852 (Link to this contribution)

I bring the right hon. Gentleman back to the issue of growth. Yesterday, the Minister said that a...

Hilary Benn | 635 cc852-3 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, that is the case. Ministers have made those arguments and, of course, when the growth is ...

Anna Soubry | 635 c853 (Link to this contribution)

May I take the right hon. Gentleman one step back? Does he now share the view of many right hon. ...

Hilary Benn | 635 cc853-4 (Link to this contribution)

In retrospect, there is force in the right hon. Lady’s argument, but since the Government chose t...

Lindsay Hoyle | 635 c855 (Link to this contribution)

Oops. I call Mr Kenneth Clarke. You were not on my list, but you have just been added.

2.31...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 635 cc855-6 (Link to this contribution)

The Speaker got an ambiguous reply from me, and I will explain why in a moment, but first may I a...

Alison McGovern | 635 c856 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Father of the House agree that the extraordinary actions taken by the Governor of the Ba...

Lindsay Hoyle | 635 c856 (Link to this contribution)

I must inform the House that there will be a six-minute limit after the current speech, and if pe...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 635 c856 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with the hon. Lady. The Governor actually lessened the impact that the Bank fore...

Lindsay Hoyle | 635 c857 (Link to this contribution)

Order. There is now a six-minute speaking limit. I call Emma Reynolds.

2.39 pm

Emma Reynolds | 635 c857 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, Mr Deputy Speaker, it is a pleasure and a privilege to serve under your chairmanship. It...

Seema Malhotra | 635 c857 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a very powerful and passionate speech. The report appears to highlight t...

Emma Reynolds | 635 cc858-9 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. As the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) said earlier, th...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c859 (Link to this contribution)

Let me begin, Mr Deputy Speaker, by associating myself with what has been said by Members in all ...

Matt Western | 635 c859 (Link to this contribution)

Businesses always look at forecasts, do modelling, look at outcomes and then make investments acc...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c860 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right that businesses create forecasts, but they also understand and accept...

Anna Soubry | 635 c860 (Link to this contribution)

The one thing businesses want—this is the message I and others have received for a very long time...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c860 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for that intervention. Absolutely: when we have spoken to businesses...

Seema Malhotra | 635 c860 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady not agree, however, that there is a difference between uncertainty in a macroe...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c860 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that there are various areas where uncertainty can exist, but there is legal uncertainty ...

Wera Hobhouse | 635 c860 (Link to this contribution)

I think it is agreed across the Chamber that we cannot create absolute certainty for absolutely e...

Rachel Maclean | 635 cc860-1 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is absolutely right, and I think the Government and the Minister have agreed to pub...

Stephen Kinnock | 635 cc861-2 (Link to this contribution)

First, may I add to the earlier comments about how good it is to see you back in your place, Mr D...

Peter Grant | 635 c862 (Link to this contribution)

Given the hon. Gentleman’s desire to retain access to the single market, can he explain why he do...

Stephen Kinnock | 635 cc862-3 (Link to this contribution)

One of the key issues in the referendum was the free movement of labour and, as I shall go on to ...

Charlie Elphicke | 635 c863 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for calling me to speak, Mr Deputy Speaker. May I also welcome you back to your place? ...

Andrew Bridgen | 635 c863 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a great point. We all remember “Project Fear”. Will he confirm beyond do...

Charlie Elphicke | 635 cc863-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I am looking at the forecast of 500,000 more unemployed, and ...

Andrew Bridgen | 635 c864 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, was worried about “Project Fear”, and I wrote to the Treasury after the referendum asking...

Charlie Elphicke | 635 cc864-5 (Link to this contribution)

Again, my hon. Friend makes a forceful point, and they are not just in the Treasury.

The sh...

Wera Hobhouse | 635 c865 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Charlie Elphicke | 635 c865 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way as I have given way twice already.

The Treasury analysis was wrong in t...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 635 c865 (Link to this contribution)

Order. This has been such a heated debate that we must now reduce the time limit to five minutes....

Alison McGovern | 635 cc865-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to be in this debate under your chairship, Madam Deputy Speaker. I normally find...

Andrew Bridgen | 635 c866 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Lady ever heard the phrase “garbage in, garbage out”? If we use garbage figures and ...

Alison McGovern | 635 cc866-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman just made my point for me. It is just maths. It is clear and transparent. Ther...

Pat McFadden | 635 cc867-8 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make a few points about the politics of all this and what that says about our politics....

Deidre Brock | 635 cc868-9 (Link to this contribution)

This has been an interesting debate, and I appreciate the intent behind it, but we have to be a b...

Geraint Davies | 635 cc869-871 (Link to this contribution)

Being Welsh, I enjoy a leak, but when does a leaker become a whistleblower? Although we have to t...

Paul Blomfield | 635 cc871-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to wind up this debate. It is one of a series that reflect the historic period t...

Steve Baker | 635 cc872-4 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a great debate, and I am grateful to all the right hon. and hon. Members who have t...

Deidre Brock | 635 c874 (Link to this contribution)

Could the Minister confirm, as I asked previously, that he will undertake to release the analysis...

Steve Baker | 635 c874 (Link to this contribution)

The Under-Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, my hon. Friend the Member for Worces...

Bob Stewart | 635 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my good friend for allowing me to intervene. I take it from what I have heard in this Cha...

Steve Baker | 635 c875 (Link to this contribution)

As we have said many times, we conduct a wide range of analysis to support our negotiating positi...

Paul Blomfield | 635 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to be absolutely clear: the papers that we are talking about today are a work in prog...

Steve Baker | 635 cc875-6 (Link to this contribution)

I heard what the hon. Gentleman said the first time, but the commitments that we are giving are t...

John Bercow | 635 c876 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister giving way or has he concluded his oration?

John Bercow | 635 c876 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has concluded his oration, and we are grateful to him.

Question put and agreed...

Keir Starmer | 635 c876 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Government not having voted against that motion, it is—as I ...

John Bercow | 635 c876 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. and learned Gentleman for his point of order. The answer is twofo...

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