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Finance (No. 2) Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Tuesday, 19 December 2017, in the House of Commons, led by Mel Stride.
Committee stage second day. New clause 6 (Equality impact analyses of provisions of this Act), discussed with new clause 7 (Equality Impact analyses of this Act (No. 2)), negatived on division (273 votes to 309). New clause 8 (Analysis of effectiveness of provisions of this Act on tax avoidance and evasion) debated and negatived on division (271 votes to 311). Bill (Clauses 8, 33, 40 and 41, and schedules 9 and 11) reported without amendment.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
633 cc959-1001 
Session
2017-19
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Finance (No. 2) Bill 2017-19
Tuesday, 28 November 2017
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Dawn Butler | 633 c960 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 633 c960 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 7—Equality impact anal...


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Dawn Butler | 633 cc960-1 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 6 stands in the name of my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition and those of...

Jim Cunningham | 633 c961 (Link to this contribution)

One of the issues that my hon. Friend has not mentioned—although I am sure that she will come to ...

Dawn Butler | 633 c961 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right: I will indeed come to that issue.

As we approach Christmas, I ask ...

Dawn Butler | 633 cc961-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is not nonsense. I challenge the Minister to sit in one of my surgeries and hear that it is no...

Jim Cunningham | 633 c963 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an interesting point. I am sure she agrees that, given that this Governm...

Dawn Butler | 633 cc963-4 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. My hon. Friend makes a powerful statement, and it points to the crux of the new claus...

Sarah Champion | 633 cc964-5 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of new clauses 6 and 7, moved by my hon. Friend the Member for Brent C...

Jim Cunningham | 633 c965 (Link to this contribution)

A good example of the burden being been put on women is through tax adjustments. In the last Gove...

Sarah Champion | 633 cc965-6 (Link to this contribution)

That is the biggest frustration. We need the Government to audit all their policies and start to ...

Stella Creasy | 633 c966 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to make my case to the five Conservative MPs on the Government Benches today. Inequality i...

Stella Creasy | 633 cc966-9 (Link to this contribution)

Goodness! The Minister says eight, but I can assure him that we have a good many more than eight ...

Laura Pidcock | 633 cc969-970 (Link to this contribution)

As my hon. Friend the Member for Brent Central (Dawn Butler), Labour's shadow Minister for Women ...

Jim Cunningham | 633 c970 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that the limit on child benefit now increases poverty? Does she recall ...

Laura Pidcock | 633 cc970-1 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. We are seeing lots of inadequacies in the universal credit system, which completely s...

Ian Mearns | 633 c971 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent point. There are very good FE colleges all over the north-e...

Laura Pidcock | 633 c971 (Link to this contribution)

It is heartbreaking. Of course we want to keep as many of those brilliant young people in my cons...

Bim Afolami | 633 c971 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to respond to some of the points that have been made by Opposition Members. I shall start ...

Laura Pidcock | 633 c971 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, but is this a debate or a questions session?

Albert Owen | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Is the hon. Member for Hitchin and Harpenden (Bim Afolami) referring to me, because he is ...

Bim Afolami | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to the hon. Member for North West Durham.

Laura Pidcock | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

In my speech I was talking about precarious work. In debates on universal credit, Government Memb...

Bim Afolami | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

Whether it is in respect of the Bill, the new clause or what we are discussing now, the important...

Stella Creasy | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

If that is the aim, what data are the Government collecting to be sure that they are achieving it...

Bim Afolami | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

I do indeed understand that. There is currently so much data, much of which has already been talk...

Sarah Champion | 633 c972 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his generosity in taking interventions. We need to hear a...

Bim Afolami | 633 cc972-3 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Lady will permit me, I will make a bit of progress and then I will respond to her rem...

Ian Mearns | 633 c973 (Link to this contribution)

When Government Members talk about, and celebrate, the fact that people are being taken out of in...

Bim Afolami | 633 c973 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman is mistaken. It is not celebrating low pay to say that people...

Stella Creasy | 633 c973 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is being very generous with his time. I think he may have missed one of the po...

Bim Afolami | 633 c973 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that all policy in this area, or, frankly, in any area, should be set to make sure that...

Jim McMahon | 633 c973 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Bim Afolami | 633 cc973-4 (Link to this contribution)

If I may, I would like to make a bit of progress.

As the evidence has shown, cutting corpor...

Stella Creasy | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I have a very simple question for the hon. Gentleman, although I appreciate that he is getting so...

Bim Afolami | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have the data now to be able to respond to the hon. Lady. What I do know is that Conserv...

Laura Pidcock | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is celebrating two female Prime Ministers somehow drastically pulling every si...

Dawn Butler | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

Before the hon. Gentleman responds, will he give way again?

Dawn Butler | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Members around the hon. Gentleman are trying to get him to stop talking, ...

Albert Owen | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Too much “you”. The hon. Lady is an experienced Member of the House and she should set an ...

Dawn Butler | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

My apologies, Mr Owen. I am getting carried away in my enthusiasm to try to educate the hon. Memb...

Albert Owen | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

Order. That was a very long intervention with too many “yous”. Let us get used to the parliamenta...

Bim Afolami | 633 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I will conclude my remarks by saying that it is important when we talk about these issues—in this...

Jim McMahon | 633 c975 (Link to this contribution)

Well, well, well. When it comes to naivety, there is a very fine line; it can often be endearing ...

Ian Mearns | 633 c975 (Link to this contribution)

We have discovered a new phenomenon: it is called trickle-down gendernomics. It is going to be th...

Stella Creasy | 633 c975 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, having had two women Prime Ministers, that is quite enough women earning a serious lev...

Jim McMahon | 633 c975 (Link to this contribution)

I think that where the hon. Gentleman was trying to get to—I will be generous—was that these thin...

Chris Stephens | 633 c975 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman confirm that it is also important that it was women politicians and women...

Jim McMahon | 633 cc975-6 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely right, but let us be honest: the Government are not in listening mode. They do...

Sarah Champion | 633 c976 (Link to this contribution)

The reason we want the equality impact assessment is not handouts; we are looking for a level pla...

Jim McMahon | 633 c976 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely right. This is really odd from my point of view, because I have come from loca...

Justin Tomlinson | 633 c976 (Link to this contribution)

Specifically on Remploy, yes, there were some great practices there, but the Government made that...

Jim McMahon | 633 c977 (Link to this contribution)

How dare the hon. Gentleman suggest that the 114 people working in that factory in Oldham were no...

Jim McMahon | 633 c977 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely give way to the hon. Gentleman if he can justify that.

Bim Afolami | 633 c977 (Link to this contribution)

Would the hon. Gentleman welcome anything at all in the Government’s recently announced industria...

Jim McMahon | 633 cc977-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to give the hon. Gentleman a real answer on this point and not just grandstand, becaus...

Stella Creasy | 633 c979 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. Whether Members on either side of the House agree with ...

Jim McMahon | 633 c979 (Link to this contribution)

I believe it comes down to priorities. If the Government were determined to do something about th...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 cc979-980 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to start by correcting an omission that I made yesterday. I should have said that ou...

Drew Hendry | 633 c980 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree it is a scandal that many children will be getting food and presents th...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 cc980-2 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. This year—in 2017—my office has referred 35 people to food banks, and we have...

Chris Stephens | 633 c982 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not a bit rich for some Government Members to try to shout down my hon. Friend, complaining...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 c982 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. If Government Members cared about what they were doing to disabled people, they would...

Mel Stride | 633 cc982-3 (Link to this contribution)

This Government are committed to equality. That is not to say that no further steps need to be ta...

David Linden | 633 c983 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, but I am afraid he has to stop talking absolute guf...

Mel Stride | 633 c983 (Link to this contribution)

It applies to a large number of people and there is the national minimum wage as well. My point i...

Stella Creasy | 633 c983 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way and I am listening to the case he is making. If he is so conf...

Mel Stride | 633 cc983-4 (Link to this contribution)

I ask the hon. Lady to be a little bit patient, because I am coming to those very points shortly....

Stella Creasy | 633 c984 (Link to this contribution)

It is extraordinary that the Minister does not understand the concept of doing both individual an...

Mel Stride | 633 c984 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is right: there are many ways it can be done, and the Government are indeed doing i...

Dawn Butler | 633 cc984-5 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister referred to distributional analyses. The distributional analysis carried out by the ...

Anneliese Dodds | 633 cc985-990 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

It will not have escaped Members’ att...

Kelvin Hopkins | 633 c990 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on the first part of her speech. Some three or four years ago, the ...

Anneliese Dodds | 633 c990 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. The calculations made by economists and accountants, such as Mr ...

Jim Cunningham | 633 c990 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that low wages mask inefficiency? One of the big problems with the econ...

Anneliese Dodds | 633 cc990-2 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. In fact, a problem that underlines our productivity gap is the worry...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 633 c992 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree it is disgraceful that some of those named in the Paradise papers are n...

Anneliese Dodds | 633 cc992-3 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend on that. There is a particular onus on the Government to b...

Alex Chalk | 633 c993 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this Finance Bill, because it does three things so far as taxation is concerned: first,...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 633 c993 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman recognise that that 6% does not take into account profit shifting? It com...

Alex Chalk | 633 cc993-4 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely not. It is an internationally recognised statistic that shows that this country bears ...

Alex Chalk | 633 c994 (Link to this contribution)

No, because I am going to conclude.

All that I have described shows the UK’s commitment to ...

Oliver Heald | 633 c994 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that above all else, this is about persistent, detailed work over time ...

Alex Chalk | 633 c994 (Link to this contribution)

As always, my right hon. and learned Friend hits the nail on the head. There is no substitute for...

Kelvin Hopkins | 633 cc994-5 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak briefly. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Oxford East (Anneliese Dodds)...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 cc995-6 (Link to this contribution)

The discussion that we had earlier on today and that we are having now in relation to tax avoidan...

Bill Grant | 633 c996 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady suggested that there is a confusion in the tax codes. It is only in recent days tha...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 c996 (Link to this contribution)

It is not actually a raft of new tax bands. As far as I know, it is one more band in the tax syst...

Mel Stride | 633 c996 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for indulging me. She says that 70% of Scottish taxpayers will pay less tax...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 c996 (Link to this contribution)

The Scottish Government’s new starter rate of 19%, rather than 20%, for the first £2,000 that peo...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 633 c996 (Link to this contribution)

If Conservative Members wish to debate the progressive taxation system introduced by the Scottish...

Kirsty Blackman | 633 c997 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his comments. I do, however, want to say one more thing on the Scottis...

Mel Stride | 633 cc997-8 (Link to this contribution)

This Government are committed to bearing down on tax avoidance, evasion and non-compliance like n...

Kelvin Hopkins | 633 c998 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentioned HMRC. One of the things the Government have done over many years now is to...

Mel Stride | 633 cc998-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman may know that, in the last Budget, £155 million was set aside to be invested i...

Anneliese Dodds | 633 cc999-1001 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger.

First, let me respond to the ...

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