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Telecommunications Infrastructure (Relief from Non-Domestic Rates) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 10 July 2017, in the House of Commons, led by Matt Hancock and Marcus Jones. The answering member was Andrew Gwynne.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
627 cc63-133 
Session
2017-19
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Matt Hancock | 627 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Everyone in the House knows the imp...

Catherine West | 627 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for being so quick to take an intervention. May I suggest that h...


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Matt Hancock | 627 cc64-5 (Link to this contribution)

That was me talking about what we have done so far—just wait until I talk about what we need to d...

Desmond Swayne | 627 c65 (Link to this contribution)

Will that assist those areas, of which there seem to be a great number in my constituency, where ...

Matt Hancock | 627 c65 (Link to this contribution)

It may well help, but the universal service obligation is the thing that will really help those p...

Rebecca Pow | 627 c66 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Bill, which is essential for moving the country forward and making our businesses a...

Matt Hancock | 627 c66 (Link to this contribution)

The universal service obligation is in law to ensure that everybody can access the service by 202...

Kit Malthouse | 627 c66 (Link to this contribution)

I want to refer back to the Minister’s remarks on the universal service obligation, which of cour...

Matt Hancock | 627 c66 (Link to this contribution)

I know when to take a compliment as a threat. The truth is that this all depends on the technolog...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c67 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for confirming that 100% of properties will have access to this by ...

Matt Hancock | 627 c67 (Link to this contribution)

We have said 10 megabits per second as a minimum, and that is Ofcom’s analysis of the needs of th...

Lord Benyon | 627 c67 (Link to this contribution)

I speak as someone whose constituency is one big roadworks, where a company called Gigaclear deli...

Matt Hancock | 627 cc67-8 (Link to this contribution)

I can tell my right hon. Friend two things. The first is that we are committed to a business rate...

Wendy Morton | 627 c68 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister think the five-year period for business rates relief will be sufficient to ince...

Matt Hancock | 627 c69 (Link to this contribution)

First, there is no doubt that the five-year business rates holiday shows that we are reducing the...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 cc69-71 (Link to this contribution)

May I welcome you to the Chair, Madam Deputy Speaker? It is a pleasure to see you in your rightfu...

Helen Whately | 627 c70 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman just remind us of the Labour party’s policy on corporation tax rates?

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Andrew Gwynne | 627 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Labour would have increased corporation tax to pay for better public services, but ou...

Kit Malthouse | 627 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman recognise that the reductions in corporation tax in the past few years ha...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c72 (Link to this contribution)

As I said in answer to the hon. Member for Faversham and Mid Kent (Helen Whately), it is a questi...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, because we are talking about infrastructure.

Andrew Gwynne | 627 cc72-3 (Link to this contribution)

No, I have given way once to the hon. Lady, I will not do so again.

There is a further omis...

Matt Hancock | 627 c73 (Link to this contribution)

That is not the case. The Digital Economy Act 2017, which was the last Bill passed in the previou...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c73 (Link to this contribution)

Well—[Interruption.] Exactly. As my hon. Friend the Member for Oldham West and Royton says, the M...

Matt Hancock | 627 c73 (Link to this contribution)

It is a serious frustration and we will use the powers.

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c73 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady to let me answer the Minister’s intervention before I take another?

I am...

Helen Whately | 627 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way to one of the Back Benchers he mentions. Yes, many of u...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c74 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for that intervention, because, of course, it was not just the Gov...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c74 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I have upset the hon. Gentleman by mentioning the word “Europe”.

Kit Malthouse | 627 c74 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has to recognise that there is also a downside to EU involvement. I know that ...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 cc74-5 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I am not saying that everything was perfect with that sch...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 627 cc75-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the chance to speak under your chairmanship for the second time, Madam Deputy S...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c77 (Link to this contribution)

May I disagree vigorously with my right hon. Friend by saying that it is not a boring point? It i...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 627 cc77-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that point. In fact, although I welcome Virgin Media’s investment in c...

Jonathan Edwards | 627 cc79-80 (Link to this contribution)

On behalf of my Plaid Cymru colleagues, may I congratulate you, Madam Deputy Speaker, on your ele...

Simon Hoare | 627 cc80-2 (Link to this contribution)

I suppose I should apologise to the Under-Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 627 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I know more about my hon. Friend’s life now than I did five minutes ago. The entire House still w...

Simon Hoare | 627 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to tantalise the House still further by telling my right hon. Friend that it was infla...

Simon Hoare | 627 cc82-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend says that she is relieved that it was something so entirely innocent and innocuous...

Amanda Milling | 627 c83 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentions banks on the high street. Several branches in my constituency have shut a...

Simon Hoare | 627 c83 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes my point far better than I could. She is absolutely right. The town of Sturm...

Wendy Morton | 627 c83 (Link to this contribution)

I did not use the word “relieved”; I said that I was reassured. Does my hon. Friend agree that ru...

Simon Hoare | 627 cc83-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Who among us has not visited an agricultural show or small bu...

Kit Malthouse | 627 cc84-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure and an honour to follow my comrade and hon. Friend the Member for North Dorset (...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c85 (Link to this contribution)

My ears pricked up when the hon. Gentleman mentioned gin. Perhaps, in the interests of cross-part...

Kit Malthouse | 627 c85 (Link to this contribution)

I have to confess that I was so taken with the small sample that I tried—I was driving—that I bou...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c85 (Link to this contribution)

I had the great pleasure of being in my hon. Friend’s constituency yesterday, although I beg his ...

Kit Malthouse | 627 c85 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He is very welcome to visit my constituency at any time. In f...

Simon Hoare | 627 c86 (Link to this contribution)

I suggest to my hon. Friend that his constituents might wish to do the former more often than the...

Kit Malthouse | 627 c86 (Link to this contribution)

I think that is rather churlish of my hon. Friend, given how complimentary I have been about him....

Helen Whately | 627 cc86-7 (Link to this contribution)

Like several Members here, I have the pleasure of representing a beautiful and very rural constit...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 c87 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend not add watching BBC Parliament so that all her constituents in Faversham and...

Helen Whately | 627 cc88-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend very much, although I doubt whether even one of my constituents is watchin...

Helen Whately | 627 c89 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman gave way to me, I will give way to him.

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c89 (Link to this contribution)

I merely wish to correct the record: at no stage have either I or the Labour party said that we w...

Helen Whately | 627 c89 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate the hon. Gentleman’s putting the record straight, because I made an error in my note...

James Cartlidge | 627 c89 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. Was she as shocked as I was to hear the shadow Secr...

Helen Whately | 627 c89 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This point really is significant because as corporation tax r...

Jim McMahon | 627 c90 (Link to this contribution)

On the subject of large increases, given that the hon. Lady would be outraged by a 50% increase, ...

Helen Whately | 627 c90 (Link to this contribution)

In some respects, the hon. Gentleman and I may agree, although not on the specifics of his point....

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c90 (Link to this contribution)

May I take my hon. Friend back to corporation tax? She is absolutely right that the reduction in ...

Helen Whately | 627 c90 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. I will return to the content of the Bill in a momen...

Amanda Milling | 627 c91 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend and I both have residents and businesses that face the plight of HGV fly-parking. ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 627 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sure that the hon. Member for Faversham and Mid Kent (Helen Whately) will find an ing...

Helen Whately | 627 c91 (Link to this contribution)

I could see the frown on your face, Madam Deputy Speaker. It might seem like a stretch to go from...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c91 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being very generous with her time, but before she moves away from 5G, I invite ...

Helen Whately | 627 c91 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree. As in his constituency, there are parts of my constituency that do not have 4...

Vicky Ford | 627 c91 (Link to this contribution)

While we are on the subject of notspots and blackout areas, does my hon. Friend agree that there ...

Helen Whately | 627 c92 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made an important point about the Bill’s focus on the infrastructure along rou...

Matt Warman | 627 cc92-4 (Link to this contribution)

Let me begin by thanking my hon. Friend the Member for North Dorset (Simon Hoare), although he is...

Amanda Milling | 627 c94 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Boston and Skegness (Matt Warman), who is...

Wendy Morton | 627 c94 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that although her constituency, like mine, is not predominantly rural, ...

Amanda Milling | 627 cc94-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right, and I will come on to some specific issues later in my speech.

My ...

Wendy Morton | 627 c97 (Link to this contribution)

As always, it is a pleasure to follow my constituency neighbour, my hon. Friend the Member for Ca...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c97 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps my nostalgia is greater than the hon. Lady’s, because I believe that my Nokia “brick” was...

Wendy Morton | 627 cc97-8 (Link to this contribution)

I bow to the hon. Gentleman’s judgment on that one. Sadly, I did not have much chance to use the ...

Amanda Milling | 627 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Access to the internet is as important as electricity. If the lights go out and the power goes of...

Wendy Morton | 627 cc98-9 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Before entering this place, I worked in the optical industry,...

Luke Graham | 627 c99 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will agree that the age disparity between young and old can be bridged through the...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c99 (Link to this contribution)

Order. This Bill is for England and Wales, not for Scotland. That is the problem, so we need to d...

Wendy Morton | 627 cc99-100 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Member for Ochil and South Perthshire (Luke Graham) for makin...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 cc100-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Aldridge-Brownhills (Wendy Morton), who ...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c101 (Link to this contribution)

I do not apologise for reinforcing the important point, in case Opposition Members say it has alr...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 cc101-2 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, my hon. Friend makes an important and cogent point. He is right to champion the interest...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c102 (Link to this contribution)

May I take my hon. Friend from Hampshire to Dorset and endorse what he is saying? He is advocatin...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 c103 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important further contribution to this debate and is right in what he say...

Robert Courts | 627 c103 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for the important points he is making about the combination of lo...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 cc103-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that point. He is right: this is all part of the competitive nature th...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c105 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentioned the fact that copper wires can be degraded by age and distance, but volu...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 cc105-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right that copper’s capacity is insufficient for today’s challenges....

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c106 (Link to this contribution)

Order. [Interruption.] The hon. Gentleman will have to sit down for a second. We cannot both be o...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 c106 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker, filibuster never. I am informing the nation.

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c106 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but it has got to be on the subject that we are discussing. We will be talking about cricket...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 627 c106 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. Mr Deputy Speaker suggests that this is a fi...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c106 (Link to this contribution)

The worry is that I have heard too much already.

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 c106 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker, you are very, very kind, but I shall be bringing my remarks to a close very sh...

Chris Elmore | 627 c107 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a very good point on the topic of infrastructure around railways and roa...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c107 (Link to this contribution)

I have a good suggestion for the House: I think you should put in for an Adjournment debate on th...

Ranil Jayawardena | 627 c107 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker, as ever, you make an excellent suggestion. I will speak to the hon. Gentleman ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 cc107-8 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I have a slight problem. I did not expect to have to bring in a time limit—[Interruption.]...

Bim Afolami | 627 c108 (Link to this contribution)

The words will ring in my ears: filibuster never, inform the nation always. That is a lesson for ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c108 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I will give you an extra lesson—[Interruption.] You will have to take your seat for a seco...

Bim Afolami | 627 c108 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, Mr Deputy Speaker. Thank you very much for that kind reminder.

This Bill matters...

Huw Merriman | 627 c108 (Link to this contribution)

As my hon. Friend knows, my 92-year-old aunt lives in Kimpton, and he is speaking eloquently on h...

Bim Afolami | 627 cc108-110 (Link to this contribution)

I agree. It is important for people to be connected to friends and family; the converse situation...

Bim Afolami | 627 c109 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker, I am coming to a conclusion.

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c109 (Link to this contribution)

No, it is not that. I am trying to be helpful. I am bothered about time. I would like us to discu...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c109 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Forgive me, but this is my very first point of order, and...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c109 (Link to this contribution)

Don’t worry—I can help you. I am very bothered about the length of time and the number of speaker...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c109 (Link to this contribution)

I will make the rulings. You can listen to my rulings, and we can have a discussion later if we n...

Bim Afolami | 627 cc109-111 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker.

In closing, I should say that the Bill is a signifi...

Robert Courts | 627 cc111-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the many distinguished speakers in this debate, who have made so...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c112 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call Mr Tomlinson, I want to help him by saying that he might want to take a few pages o...

Michael Tomlinson | 627 c112 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for your guidance and for your earlier ruling, whic...

Lindsay Hoyle | 627 c112 (Link to this contribution)

Order. If it is helpful I can make the limit eight minutes to give someone else more time.

Michael Tomlinson | 627 cc112-7 (Link to this contribution)

My meaning is the exact opposite. I am very grateful to you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

It is a gre...

Caroline Johnson | 627 cc117-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to speak for longer.

It is a pl...

Huw Merriman | 627 cc118-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to be the last Back Bencher to be called in the debate, which has been incredibl...

Richard Graham | 627 c119 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend describes a constituency that is different from mine, but in many ways we have sim...

Huw Merriman | 627 cc119-120 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right: urban areas, as well as rural ones, will not continue to regenerate with...

Richard Graham | 627 c120 (Link to this contribution)

Have my hon. Friend’s council and the council in Brighton introduced in their planning requiremen...

Huw Merriman | 627 cc120-1 (Link to this contribution)

I do not believe those councils have, but my hon. Friend touches on another issue. I am referring...

John Bercow | 627 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I am much enjoying the hon. Gentleman’s dilation. There is no prohibition on him dilating a littl...

Huw Merriman | 627 c121 (Link to this contribution)

You are very kind, Mr Speaker. That is helpful, although I think part of what you said was perhap...

Huw Merriman | 627 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I will of course give way to a man who is anything but illogical.

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 627 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. Has he not once again powerfully shown the b...

Huw Merriman | 627 cc121-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for reminding me of the Laffer curve, a term I have not heard since I was ...

Yvonne Fovargue | 627 cc122-3 (Link to this contribution)

The Opposition welcome this Bill. It is vital that our homes and businesses have access to broadb...

Marcus Jones | 627 cc123-4 (Link to this contribution)

We have had an interesting and, at times, wide-ranging debate on this important Bill. It is good ...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c124 (Link to this contribution)

This is an important point, which I have raised in points of order and through other mechanisms i...

Marcus Jones | 627 cc124-5 (Link to this contribution)

As I said to the hon. Gentleman in my response to his comments, this Government are absolutely co...

Marcus Jones | 627 c125 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way; I am going to make some progress. On regular revaluations, I just wan...

Andrew Gwynne | 627 c125 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I have stood at this Dispatch Box on a number of occasions in th...

John Bercow | 627 c125 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to the hon. Gentleman’s question is that if he does not at first succeed, he must try,...

Marcus Jones | 627 cc125-6 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

Let me move on to contributions made by other right hon. and hon. Me...

Nusrat Ghani | 627 c126 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentions rural areas; could he reference my constituency, Wealden? Broadband is impe...

Marcus Jones | 627 c126 (Link to this contribution)

I concur with my hon. Friend. My hon. Friend the Member for Sleaford and North Hykeham (Dr Johnso...

John Bercow | 627 c126 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sure that the Minister is very flattered. The House cannot wait to hear more of the o...

Marcus Jones | 627 cc126-7 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

This is one of several measures that we are taking on both broadband...

John Bercow | 627 c133 (Link to this contribution)

Order. If, inexplicably, some Members do not wish to hear the debate on the future of the King Ge...

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