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Criminal Finances Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 21 February 2017, in the House of Commons, led by Ben Wallace. The answering member was Diane Abbott.
Report stage. New clause 7, discussed with new clause 1, debated and agreed to on question. New clause 8, discussed with new clause 5, debated and agreed to on question. New clause 2, discussed with new clauses 3, 4, 6, and 10 to 21, debated and withdrawn. New clause 17 negatived on division (180 to 301). New clause 19 negatived on division (241 to 300). Amendments made. Third reading. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
621 cc872-978 
Session
2016-17
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Third reading and Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Criminal Finances Bill 2016-17
Thursday, 13 October 2016
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Ben Wallace | 621 c874 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

John Bercow | 621 cc874-7 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 1—Civil recovery: gros...


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Ben Wallace | 621 cc877-8 (Link to this contribution)

Some time has passed since we last considered this Bill. There was, as hon. Members will recall, ...

Jonathan Djanogly | 621 c878 (Link to this contribution)

The point about the Magnitsky Act in the US is that it pulls together the visa ban, the ban on us...

Ben Wallace | 621 c878 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that point. I will get to that later in my speech, but we hav...

Tom Brake | 621 c879 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is clearly very well informed on this issue, and I know that he has had meetings on ...

Ben Wallace | 621 c879 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for his point. I have to respect the boundaries of our ...

Chris Bryant | 621 c879 (Link to this contribution)

The Government’s new clause 7 contains no duty on the Government to act at all; they can simply i...

Ben Wallace | 621 c879 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman talks about duty, but there are lots of criminal offences on the statute books...

Chris Bryant | 621 c880 (Link to this contribution)

But in the Government’s new clause, as opposed to new clause 1, there is no provision for third p...

Ben Wallace | 621 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid we are not. The National Crime Agency, the Serious Fraud Office and Her Majesty’s Rev...

Chris Bryant | 621 c880 (Link to this contribution)

That is simply not the case. For example, we already regularly have lots of vexatious application...

Ben Wallace | 621 c880 (Link to this contribution)

First, the hon. Gentleman misses the point that courts do not like vexatious complaints. They do ...

Jonathan Djanogly | 621 c881 (Link to this contribution)

Have the Government considered whether any application should go first to the Attorney General be...

Ben Wallace | 621 c881 (Link to this contribution)

We did consider that in consultation with the office of the Attorney General and the Solicitor Ge...

Lord Pickles | 621 c881 (Link to this contribution)

Surely that is the substantive point. The concern would be that we would get not only vexatious c...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc881-2 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right that it sends a message, but it also respects the indepe...

Richard Arkless | 621 cc882-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is not fair for us to live in a world in which criminals are free to generate cash and spend i...

Dominic Raab | 621 cc884-5 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 1, which is known as the Magnitsky amendment, and to touch on the G...

Ben Wallace | 621 c885 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to tell my hon. Friend that I will commit to collecting those stats and ensuring t...

Dominic Raab | 621 cc885-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for such an immediate, swift and decisive acceptance and provision of assura...

Jonathan Djanogly | 621 c886 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend says that visa bans are for another day, but of course visa bans already exist as ...

Dominic Raab | 621 c886 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We will need a separate legislative vehicle to address the wi...

Rupa Huq | 621 cc886-7 (Link to this contribution)

As I rise to speak to this group of amendments, it looks as though new clause 1 might not be move...

Jonathan Djanogly | 621 cc887-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to be given the opportunity to speak to this significant legislation, which will cer...

Ben Wallace | 621 c889 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can inform my hon. Friend and the rest of the House on the visa issue. We can refuse a ...

Jonathan Djanogly | 621 cc889-890 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the Minister’s clarification. It would be helpful if he could say that it is th...

Chris Bryant | 621 cc890-3 (Link to this contribution)

I want to pay tribute to two people, the first of whom is the Minister for introducing this Bill....

Lord Pickles | 621 cc894-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Rhondda (Chris Bryant). I agred with much of...

Tom Brake | 621 cc895-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab) for putting together the proposal in new c...

Andrew Mitchell | 621 cc896-7 (Link to this contribution)

I, as a signatory of new clause 1, can be very brief because my right hon. and hon. Friends, and ...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc897-8 (Link to this contribution)

We have had a very important and well-informed debate. I am very grateful to colleagues for their...

Jonathan Djanogly | 621 c898 (Link to this contribution)

Will it also include the names and titles of people from whom the assets have been taken?

Ben Wallace | 621 c898 (Link to this contribution)

I will have to check and get back to my hon. Friend, but any court action is a matter of public r...

Chris Bryant | 621 c898 (Link to this contribution)

But if the prosecuting authorities were, for a corrupt reason, to choose not to prosecute, there ...

Ben Wallace | 621 c898 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I have too positive a view of the integrity of our law enforcement agencies to say—or...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc899-901 (Link to this contribution)

I really do have to press on. Hon. Members have made a considerable number of valid queries and I...

Ben Wallace | 621 c902 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Natascha Engel | 621 c902 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 5—Unexplained Wealth O...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc902-4 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to a group of amendments relating to law enforcement investigative and recovery power...

Gavin Robinson | 621 c904 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister will be aware that although the aspiration is to see an early return to the Stormont...

Ben Wallace | 621 c904 (Link to this contribution)

We are in ongoing discussions with the Northern Ireland Assembly, and we hope that the Northern I...

Gavin Robinson | 621 c904 (Link to this contribution)

The election is planned for 2 March. I agree with the aspiration to see a return to Stormont as s...

Ben Wallace | 621 c904 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, and I will certainly put that suggestion to officials. My vi...

Carolyn Harris | 621 cc904-6 (Link to this contribution)

We on the Opposition side support the spirit of the Bill and broadly support this group of amendm...

Nigel Mills | 621 cc906-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak to new clause 5, which, as the Minister said, stands in my name and tho...

Richard Arkless | 621 cc907-8 (Link to this contribution)

I want to talk briefly about what I must admit is probably my favourite section of the Bill—the p...

Ben Wallace | 621 c908 (Link to this contribution)

In response to what has been said about the issue, and the sensible suggestions made by the hon. ...

Richard Arkless | 621 c908 (Link to this contribution)

That is very co-operative of the Minister, and I greatly appreciate it. I may not have his confid...

Ben Wallace | 621 c909 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a short and helpful part of our proceedings today. I am pleased that Members in all...

Richard Arkless | 621 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Given that we want to start using these orders immediately, resource is a key issue. It is diffic...

Ben Wallace | 621 c909 (Link to this contribution)

I can reassure the hon. Gentleman and the hon. Member for Swansea East (Carolyn Harris) that one ...

Rupa Huq | 621 cc909-910 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening intently to what the Minister is saying, and I am reminded of an Evening Standard ...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc910-2 (Link to this contribution)

The impact assessment is not linked to access to funds. The impact assessment is a judgment as to...

Lord Garnier | 621 c912 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Natascha Engel | 621 cc912-920 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 3—Failure to Prevent a...

Lord Garnier | 621 cc920-2 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be relatively brief in introducing this group of new clauses. In moving new clause 2, whi...

Lord Garnier | 621 cc922-3 (Link to this contribution)

Very few. I am diverting myself, because I deliberately said “a cloud in every silver lining” not...

Roger Mullin | 621 cc923-5 (Link to this contribution)

I start by thanking the Security Minister and the Government for responding to the campaign on Sc...

Nigel Mills | 621 c925 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate. I rise to address the new clauses that my right hon. an...

Mark Field | 621 c925 (Link to this contribution)

In the US context, does my hon. Friend accept that there is often a political element there, desp...

Nigel Mills | 621 cc926-7 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my right hon. Friend’s point. It is interesting that the United States seems to favo...

Mark Field | 621 c928 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a strong and powerful case, but does he not recognise the distinction betwee...

Nigel Mills | 621 c928 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that we hear the privacy argument a lot—I am sure that it is made in the UK context as w...

Ben Wallace | 621 c928 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend gave the example of a toll road in Tajikistan. Because of where we are now, with a...

Nigel Mills | 621 cc928-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for making those points, but we should be careful that we do not fo...

Caroline Flint | 621 cc929-930 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Amber Valley (Nigel Mills). I almost feel like not...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c930 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an incredibly strong point. I, too, was pleased to add my name to ...

Caroline Flint | 621 cc930-1 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend and I thank him for his support and for putting his name t...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c931 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that there is a conflict here? On the one hand, different Labour ...

Caroline Flint | 621 cc931-2 (Link to this contribution)

If we do not have the tools to make the difference, we are not going to see the change that I thi...

Ben Wallace | 621 c932 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is not being very charitable. Actually, we have achieved an awful lot since D...

Caroline Flint | 621 c932 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that information, because I did go and read the final communiqué from th...

Mark Durkan | 621 c932 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has just told us that he did raise the issue of making the register of ownership pub...

Caroline Flint | 621 cc932-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. Part of having this debate, and part of looking ...

Andrew Mitchell | 621 cc933-5 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 6 is an important probing amendment. I very much look forward to hearing what the Mini...

Robert Neill | 621 cc935-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my right hon. Friend the Member for Sutton Coldfield (Mr Mitchell), wh...

Caroline Flint | 621 c936 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman—

Caroline Flint | 621 c936 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the hon. Gentleman, who should be “right honourable”. I absolutely agree that it i...

Robert Neill | 621 cc936-8 (Link to this contribution)

The reason was very properly and sensibly set out by my right hon. Friend the Member for Sutton C...

Lord Bellingham | 621 cc938-9 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, would like to say a few brief words on new clause 6. I declare an interest: I chaired the...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 621 c939 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support new clause 6, to which I added my name in the full confidence that I was merely...

Mark Field | 621 c939 (Link to this contribution)

It is fair enough that I be allowed to defend myself. I was making the point that while I favoure...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 621 cc939-941 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for clarifying what he said, but my point still stands, whi...

Mark Field | 621 cc941-2 (Link to this contribution)

I have spent the last 16 years as the Member for Cities of London and Westminster, and six of tho...

Richard Arkless | 621 cc942-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the right hon. Member for Cities of London and Westminster (Mark Field)...

Rupa Huq | 621 cc944-6 (Link to this contribution)

This group of new clauses contains a fair few of ours, so I shall take a bit longer than I did la...

Ben Wallace | 621 c946 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady recognise for once that through cajoling and peer group pressure all Crown dep...

Rupa Huq | 621 cc946-7 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to what the Minister said, and he said something similar in response to my r...

Mark Field | 621 c947 (Link to this contribution)

The specific problem is about legislating for the overseas territories rather than the Crown depe...

Rupa Huq | 621 c947 (Link to this contribution)

First, I would like to finish what I was trying to say. I was coming to the Crown dependencies an...

Rupa Huq | 621 c948 (Link to this contribution)

I will carry on for the moment because I want to make some progress—I am not able to get a senten...

Robert Neill | 621 c948 (Link to this contribution)

It would not be unreasonable for the hon. Lady to note that I was not Chair of the Justice Commit...

Rupa Huq | 621 c948 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, there seems to be a lack of will. The hon. Gentleman talked at length about Gibra...

Richard Arkless | 621 c948 (Link to this contribution)

Given the principle of parliamentary sovereignty, it is of course open to this place to legislate...

Rupa Huq | 621 c948 (Link to this contribution)

No, I did not say that. If the hon. Gentleman had listened, he would know that I did not mention ...

Rupa Huq | 621 cc948-9 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to make progress. I will not take any more interventions, because I am still at the ...

Rupa Huq | 621 c949 (Link to this contribution)

I have said that I am not giving way any more.

Rupa Huq | 621 cc949-950 (Link to this contribution)

It would help if Members were listening to me. How many times have I given way? Numerous times—mo...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 621 c950 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Lady is not going to read out all 46, is she? She has made her point most eloquen...

Rupa Huq | 621 c950 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful for that clarification, Madam Deputy Speaker. Some of those on the list are th...

Rupa Huq | 621 cc950-1 (Link to this contribution)

No, there is more.

The main point I want to make is that our Government should be at the fo...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc951-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Ealing Central and Acton (Dr Huq). I will take thi...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 621 c952 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister give the House a categorical assurance that none of the money made from ill-gott...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc952-3 (Link to this contribution)

We find criminals using banking systems all over the world to hide their money, whether that is i...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 621 c953 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome my hon. Friend’s restatement that the Government remain committed to transparency. Will...

Ben Wallace | 621 c953 (Link to this contribution)

The first commitment is for the central register to be in place by June this year. Where overseas...

Mark Durkan | 621 c953 (Link to this contribution)

A number of the Minister’s hon. Friends used the argument of competitive disadvantage when speaki...

Ben Wallace | 621 c953 (Link to this contribution)

We do have to recognise that there is a difference between secrecy and privacy; we have to respec...

Mark Durkan | 621 c953 (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify the point, some of the Minister’s hon. Friends said that their grounds for not su...

Ben Wallace | 621 c954 (Link to this contribution)

The United Kingdom Government do not think they are at a competitive disadvantage, and that is wh...

Ben Wallace | 621 c954 (Link to this contribution)

No, I have to press on. I am sorry.

The damage caused by economic crime perpetrated on beha...

Richard Arkless | 621 c955 (Link to this contribution)

What can the Minister tell us about the mystery Committee that is sitting for one hour today and ...

Ben Wallace | 621 c955 (Link to this contribution)

Well, apart from asking the hon. Member for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath how he has enjoyed his hour...

Caroline Flint | 621 c955 (Link to this contribution)

I will not press new clause 6 to a vote. I do not believe that the Minister has really answered t...

Lord Garnier | 621 c956 (Link to this contribution)

My new clause 2 was drafted and tabled before Christmas. Since then, I have had a number of meeti...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 621 c975 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I wonder whether you could advise me. I have been to Downing Str...

John Bercow | 621 c975 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her point of order and for giving me a moment’s notice of it. ...

Ben Wallace | 621 cc975-7 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

Financial profit is at the heart o...

Diane Abbott | 621 cc977-8 (Link to this contribution)

We in the Opposition broadly support the thrust of this legislation, and we have noted that the M...

John Bercow | 621 c978 (Link to this contribution)

This debate has been concluded with notable speed.

Question put and agreed to.

Bill a...

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