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European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Monday, 6 February 2017, in the House of Commons.
Committee stage first day. New clause 3, discussed with new clauses 20, 22, 29, 51, 56, 111 to 130, 134, 136, 151, 169, 171, 173, 176, 177, 6, 6, 14, 27, 33, 57, 67, 108, 135, 142, and 146, debated and negatived on division (284 to 333). New clause 4, discussed with new clauses 23, 24, 26, 139, 140, 144, 147 to 149, 158 to 160, 162, 168, 145, 150, and 109, negatived on division (276 to 333). New clause 26 negatived on division (62 to 332). New clause 158 negatived on division (267 to 330). Progress reported.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
621 cc49-184 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill 2016-17
Thursday, 26 January 2017
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Matthew Pennycook | 621 c49 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 621 cc49-57 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 20—Financial services—...


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Matthew Pennycook | 621 c58 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 3 concerns the parliamentary oversight of the negotiations that will follow the trigge...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c58 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way and will make a little progress, if that is okay.

The Supreme Court was...

Lord Swire | 621 c58 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman really think that in a negotiation that could take many months and which ...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c58 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make it clear that we are not asking the Government to reveal the minutiae of the negot...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 cc58-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress, if I may.

First, although Ministers obviously need sufficient ro...

Sammy Wilson | 621 c59 (Link to this contribution)

If the House is to pore over the details of the Government’s negotiating position and express its...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c59 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will allow me to make some progress, he will see that that is not what we a...

Dawn Butler | 621 c59 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is important that Parliament is sovereign throughout the whole ...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 cc59-60 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. As she will see, we are asking for no more and no less th...

Andrew Murrison | 621 c60 (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Gentleman will find that most European papers are published in English by the Ho...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c60 (Link to this contribution)

I have been absolutely clear about that, I am afraid, and it is up to the Government to determine...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c60 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make a little more progress, if I may.

In acknowledging the delicate balance between...

Gloria De Piero | 621 c60 (Link to this contribution)

I respect the democratic result of the referendum, but we all owe it to our constituents to get t...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c61 (Link to this contribution)

That is precisely why scrutiny is important, and if the Government were approaching this in a rea...

Keith Vaz | 621 c61 (Link to this contribution)

Even the Prime Minister’s statement today did not provide certainty. What constituents who have l...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c61 (Link to this contribution)

I agree 100% with my right hon. Friend.

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 621 c61 (Link to this contribution)

May I urge my hon. Friend to look at the report of a commission organised by British Future, whic...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I think that that echoes part of a suggestion that we have made. It is touched on in other new cl...

Andrew Murrison | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I shall make a little progress, if I may.

Hon. Members will know that permanent residence i...

Mark Harper | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give way, but then I am going to make a bit of progress.

Mark Harper | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman says that we are not debating the detail, but I am afraid that that is what he...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

As the right hon. Gentleman will know, it depends on the terms of the sentence. New clause 6 seek...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c62 (Link to this contribution)

The only question that remains is whether the rights that flow from permanent residency, and the ...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c63 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, if that is okay, because I know that many other Members wish to speak, and I...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c63 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way any further.

There are hard-headed as well as moral reasons for ...

Mark Harper | 621 cc63-4 (Link to this contribution)

I note that this group is a fairly hefty one with a large number of amendments, but I wish to mak...

John Penrose | 621 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my right hon. Friend that there is a vast amount of information already coming out. ...

Mark Harper | 621 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my hon. Friend and it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that, certainl...

Oliver Letwin | 621 c64 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that the effect, if not the intent, of the Opposition new clause ...

Mark Harper | 621 c64 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes a very good point. Once we put things into primary legislation and set...

Clive Efford | 621 c64 (Link to this contribution)

Should not any Member of this House want to have as a minimum requirement access to information a...

Mark Harper | 621 c65 (Link to this contribution)

The point I was making—and I think my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare (John Penrose)...

Chris Bryant | 621 c65 (Link to this contribution)

Is not one of the problems that, in recent years, motions have regularly been carried by the Hous...

Mark Harper | 621 c65 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman rose to his feet, because I am about to turn away from my fi...

Owen Smith | 621 c65 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has mentioned new clause 51, which has been tabled in my name and those ...

Mark Harper | 621 c65 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is picking out one aspect of his new clause. I was drawing out an aspect, to w...

Owen Smith | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for being tempted. Another big area in which the Govern...

Mark Harper | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

One of the flaws in the hon. Gentleman’s suggestion is that all the matters to which he refers ar...

Lord Swire | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

Has not this exchange demonstrated the foolhardiness of revealing our hand at this stage, given t...

Mark Harper | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with my right hon. Friend. That demonstrates the expertise that he acquire...

Mike Gapes | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Mark Harper | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

Let me just finish my point. We would have no ability to influence the rules that we would have t...

Julian Knight | 621 c66 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Mark Harper | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Let me give way to the hon. Member for Ilford South (Mike Gapes), who I think was first on his fe...

Mike Gapes | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman confirm that Norway is not in the European Union, that Norway was c...

Mark Harper | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm to the House that Norway is not a member of the European Union. That is indeed true...

Heidi Alexander | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Mark Harper | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Let me finish answering the point of the hon. Member for Ilford South and then I will of course t...

Julian Knight | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my right hon. Friend. Constructs such as the EEA are effectively antecham...

Mark Harper | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

I could not have put it better myself. I will now give way to the hon. Lady.

Heidi Alexander | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman tell the House whether he believes that Parliament should vote on w...

Mark Harper | 621 c67 (Link to this contribution)

I do not. I will put my cards on the table: I was on the remain side, but I am a democrat, so I a...

Mark Harper | 621 c68 (Link to this contribution)

If I can finish my answer, I will of course take an intervention.

However, the British publ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 621 c68 (Link to this contribution)

It is quite right that the then Prime Minister and Chancellor warned that leaving the EU would me...

Mark Harper | 621 c68 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend is right that not everybody on the leave side made that argument...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 621 c68 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way to the chair of the official leave campaign. Alth...

Mark Harper | 621 c68 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for that helpful intervention, which rather proves my point....

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c68 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Mark Harper | 621 cc68-9 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I want to move on to my fourth point, on the important iss...

Jo Stevens | 621 c69 (Link to this contribution)

Some 15% of the academic staff, 5% of students and 10% of research students at Cardiff University...

Mark Harper | 621 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with the hon. Lady, which is why I am pleased that the Prime Minister, in her ...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c69 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is courteous in giving way. I am a member of the Exiting the European Un...

Mark Harper | 621 cc69-70 (Link to this contribution)

I have, and the hon. and learned Lady has now put it before the House, but the problem is that I ...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

The point that these British nationals living abroad made was that the British Government put thi...

Mark Harper | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

I go back to the premise of the hon. and learned Lady’s question; it was not the British Governme...

Mark Harper | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

No, with the greatest respect, it is not the same thing. These issues have arisen and there is a ...

Mark Harper | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

If Members will forgive me, I shall make a little progress.

Mark Harper | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the Chairman of the Treasury Committee, but then I must make some progress.

Lord Tyrie | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend would agree, however, that other nationals should not be treated as bargaini...

Mark Harper | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree on the value to the economy. I also agree on this being an urgent matter, and ...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 621 c70 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman was a Minister and he has been in negotiations. If we put on the table t...

Mark Harper | 621 c71 (Link to this contribution)

I was listening carefully to what the Prime Minister said, and it sounds to me as though she and ...

Mark Harper | 621 cc71-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for trying to intervene, but I need to finish replying to the...

Baroness Harman | 621 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support new clause 57, which was tabled in my name and the names of other members of th...

Jeremy Lefroy | 621 c72 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 57 was recommended by the Joint Committee on Human Rights. My constituent who is a con...

Baroness Harman | 621 c73 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. There was plenty of other such evidence that came before ...

Lord Swire | 621 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I have considerable sympathy with the point that the right hon. and learned Lady is making. We di...

Baroness Harman | 621 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I disagree with the right hon. Gentleman’s conclusion.

Yvette Cooper | 621 c73 (Link to this contribution)

Is my right hon. and learned Friend aware that we also heard evidence in the Home Affairs Committ...

Baroness Harman | 621 c73 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right.

Philippa Whitford | 621 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that many MPs in this Chamber have also had constituents from the EU who have tried to ...

Baroness Harman | 621 c74 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with the hon. Lady.

It is not just EU nationals and their families who a...

Barry Sheerman | 621 c74 (Link to this contribution)

I recently had a conversation with the chair and chief executive of the trust in my constituency,...

Baroness Harman | 621 c74 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We cannot say that we welcome them here to do such work, but ...

Dawn Butler | 621 c74 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend is being very generous with her time. Constituents have come to ...

Baroness Harman | 621 c74 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend.

John Penrose | 621 c74 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is sending out a powerful message about British values and—this point is shar...

Baroness Harman | 621 cc74-5 (Link to this contribution)

We simply cannot trade one off against the other like that. This is not an economic trade negotia...

William Cash | 621 c75 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend the Member for West Dorset (Sir Oliver Letwin), who was in the Chamber a sho...

Clive Efford | 621 c75 (Link to this contribution)

I ask the hon. Gentleman the same question that I asked the right hon. Member for Forest of Dean ...

William Cash | 621 c75 (Link to this contribution)

I have enormous sympathy with that. In point of fact, the Secretary of State for Brexit gave evid...

Lord Swire | 621 c76 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 3(c) would

“make arrangements for Parliamentary scrutiny of confidential documen...

William Cash | 621 c76 (Link to this contribution)

Well, they certainly would not. That is really the purpose of the limité restriction. Although I ...

Stephen Gethins | 621 cc76-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friends and I have also tabled some amendments. I am glad that we have the opportunity to...

Ian Blackford | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some very valid points. Will we not also be judged on the leadership we ...

Stephen Gethins | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

As usual, my hon. Friend makes a very pertinent point. I pay due respect to the work he has done ...

Tom Tugendhat | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a very cogent and well-structured argument, and I broadly agree with...

Stephen Gethins | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes my point for me. The ECHR is under threat from this very Government, so ...

Tom Tugendhat | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Stephen Gethins | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

No, but I will say this to the hon. Gentleman, because he probably has a lot more influence on th...

Roger Mullin | 621 c78 (Link to this contribution)

The situation is even worse. While accepting what the hon. Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Tom ...

Stephen Gethins | 621 c79 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point, and I am not surprised, given the amount of hard work he...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 621 c79 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the next colleague, let me say that it will be obvious to the Committee that a grea...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 621 c79 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mrs Laing. It is quite obvious that the programme motion will not allow for ...

Mark Harper | 621 c80 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point of order, Mrs Laing. When I considered the Government’s programme motion, i...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 621 c80 (Link to this contribution)

The former Chief Whip makes a very good point. It is not a point of order for the Chair, but one ...

Lord Swire | 621 cc80-1 (Link to this contribution)

I shall seek not to detain the Committee for too long so as not to repeat many of the arguments t...

Andrew Murrison | 621 c81 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree that we need to sort this out very early on. Indeed, our right hon. Friend the P...

Lord Swire | 621 c81 (Link to this contribution)

I do agree, because this cuts both ways. It is cheap politicking to talk about bargaining chips—I...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 621 cc81-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear my right hon. Friend agree in ringing tones with what everybody has said s...

Lord Swire | 621 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I hope my right hon. and learned Friend is right. He has not always been right about everything, ...

Shailesh Vara | 621 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend share my view that if the matter is as simple as some make out—if it is...

Lord Swire | 621 c82 (Link to this contribution)

It may do, or it may not. As my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Rushcliffe (Mr Clark...

Heidi Allen | 621 c82 (Link to this contribution)

If the cynics among us genuinely believe that there could be countries out there that are not pre...

Lord Swire | 621 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether my hon. Friend was here earlier when the Prime Minister was asked about the...

Angela Eagle | 621 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman not think that a unilateral declaration would undo some of the dama...

Lord Swire | 621 c83 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Lady that language and sensitivity are incredibly important. We are dealing...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c83 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has talked about the issues faced by British citizens whose partners are...

Lord Swire | 621 c83 (Link to this contribution)

We can all cite examples from our surgeries of individual cases, but I am not sure that to do so ...

Sarah Wollaston | 621 c83 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right to be concerned about the fate of British citizens livin...

Lord Swire | 621 c83 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and no doubt there are similar examples of British people in not-dissimilar situations in...

Hilary Benn | 621 c83 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support new clauses 3 and 57. I commend my hon. Friend the Member for Greenwich and Woo...

Richard Fuller | 621 c84 (Link to this contribution)

I was not at that Committee hearing, and I am quite interested to know whether evidence was taken...

Hilary Benn | 621 cc84-5 (Link to this contribution)

No, we have not taken evidence from ambassadors, but we have heard what has been said from the Go...

William Cash | 621 c85 (Link to this contribution)

The main point I was making, and I stand by it, is that new clause 3 imposes a legal obligation, ...

Hilary Benn | 621 c85 (Link to this contribution)

I would say to the hon. Gentleman, who has great experience in these matters, that we know the Co...

Alberto Costa | 621 cc85-6 (Link to this contribution)

I do not propose to speak for more than a few minutes. I have been wrestling with this matter for...

Heidi Allen | 621 c87 (Link to this contribution)

I am just curious. I support the Prime Minister’s intentions and most definitely her sincerity in...

Alberto Costa | 621 c87 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I repeat the comment I made to the Prime Minister that it would be

“a decisive mark ...

Mark Harper | 621 c87 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for the conclusion that he has reached. The other thing the Prime...

Alberto Costa | 621 c87 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend, but a promise has been made about an early agreemen...

Stella Creasy | 621 c87 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has obviously made a personal decision on this matter. He uses the analogy of ...

Alberto Costa | 621 cc87-8 (Link to this contribution)

As I mentioned, had I been Prime Minister in July, I might have started the whole process very di...

Alberto Costa | 621 c88 (Link to this contribution)

I do not see a need to force the Government to do that. It would be politically impossible for th...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 621 c88 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is on the right side of all these arguments, but he is a very trusting man. Does h...

Alberto Costa | 621 c88 (Link to this contribution)

I respect the judgments and comments of my right hon. and learned Friend. However, I read his rec...

Chris Leslie | 621 cc88-9 (Link to this contribution)

It was touching to hear the hon. Member for South Leicestershire (Alberto Costa) talk about his h...

Stella Creasy | 621 c89 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not worth noting that when it came to debating the Lisbon treaty and the Maastricht treaty,...

Chris Leslie | 621 c89 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is completely right. This Bill is far more important than all those treaties wrapp...

Ian Murray | 621 c89 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for his diligence on this Bill and for tabling these important ne...

Chris Leslie | 621 c90 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. When hon. Members are asked by their constituents, “What time did you have to debate ...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 621 c90 (Link to this contribution)

Is it right that the hon. Gentleman talks down the City of London in this way? We all know about ...

Chris Leslie | 621 c90 (Link to this contribution)

I really hope that that is the case. I absolutely share the hon. Gentleman’s aspiration, but he s...

Neil Coyle | 621 c90 (Link to this contribution)

It is not talking down the City of London to highlight the report by TheCityUK emphasising that t...

Chris Leslie | 621 c90 (Link to this contribution)

These are the realities we face.

David Lammy | 621 c90 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not my hon. Friend’s point that we are now a service economy? The service sector accounts f...

Chris Leslie | 621 cc90-1 (Link to this contribution)

That is another issue that deserves a massive amount of consideration, but we just do not have th...

Jim Cunningham | 621 c91 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know what the Government are worried about. Anybody who knows anything about negotiation...

Chris Leslie | 621 c91 (Link to this contribution)

I think they might be scared of the debate. It also reflects their lack of awareness of the issue...

Lord Swire | 621 c91 (Link to this contribution)

By logical extension, the hon. Gentleman wants to unpick almost every single part of EU policy, l...

Chris Leslie | 621 cc91-2 (Link to this contribution)

It would take more than the three days that the right hon. Gentleman and his hon. Friends have gi...

Philippa Whitford | 621 c92 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the agencies that will be the biggest problem? The Government describe moving everythin...

Chris Leslie | 621 c92 (Link to this contribution)

That is the fallacy behind the reassurances to hon. Members. We are told, “Don’t worry. We can co...

Ben Bradshaw | 621 c92 (Link to this contribution)

The Health Secretary told the Health Committee the other day that he had already thrown in the to...

Chris Leslie | 621 c92 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and, again, we have heard no strategic alternatives from the Government and have no idea wha...

Pat McFadden | 621 c92 (Link to this contribution)

Given that the Government have said that they will pull out of Euratom, because it is part of the...

Chris Leslie | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think Ministers know what to say about some of these questions. They hope that because t...

Barry Sheerman | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that as a result of our leaving the EMA many jobs in the medical and drug...

Chris Leslie | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid to say to my hon. Friend not only that he is right, but that the list goes on—the lis...

Chris Leslie | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

Oh, the right hon. Gentleman knows what the plan is for the E111.

John Redwood | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman had read it, he would understand it perfectly as well as I do. The plan is ...

Chris Leslie | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether the right hon. Gentleman has actually left these shores and visited other c...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c93 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point about the E111 scheme, because that will have a pract...

Chris Leslie | 621 c94 (Link to this contribution)

The consequences of this aspect and many others are myriad. I hope that the House will begin to w...

Chris Leslie | 621 c94 (Link to this contribution)

I want to move on, if I may.

When it comes to education, science and research issues, we wi...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c94 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is indeed making an excellent speech and highlighting the complexity of the challe...

Chris Leslie | 621 c94 (Link to this contribution)

We should have the time, the space and the opportunity to discuss the consequences for my hon. Fr...

Liz Kendall | 621 c94 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is doing an excellent job of trying to scrutinise the implications of this Bill, y...

Chris Leslie | 621 c95 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. We need to use the two-year negotiation period wisely. We shall come on in Committee tom...

Caroline Lucas | 621 c95 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that as well as having an environment policy, we need to make sure ...

Chris Leslie | 621 cc95-6 (Link to this contribution)

In that case, I will move on to new clause 122, which references the European Investment Bank. It...

Shailesh Vara | 621 c96 (Link to this contribution)

As it happens, the protected status of Stilton cheese prohibits people living in the village of S...

Chris Leslie | 621 c96 (Link to this contribution)

Finally, we get some sign of life from Conservative Members. They are finally interested in the c...

Mary Creagh | 621 c96 (Link to this contribution)

Blessed are the cheesemakers, wherever they happen to live, but may I return my hon. Friend to ne...

Chris Leslie | 621 c96 (Link to this contribution)

As my hon. Friend says, there are serious questions about hazards that could affect our constitue...

Heidi Allen | 621 cc96-7 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak briefly about new clauses 171, 173 and, principally, 57.

I am proud to repr...

Helen Goodman | 621 c97 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a very important speech, but is she aware that it is not necessary to lea...

Heidi Allen | 621 c97 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree. I think that what is most important is for Ministers to listen to organisations...

David Lammy | 621 c97 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady agree that one of the problems that universities are experiencing is that PhD ...

Heidi Allen | 621 c97 (Link to this contribution)

I regularly speak to members of the University of Cambridge, because a couple of its colleges are...

Jim Cunningham | 621 c97 (Link to this contribution)

Like, probably, the hon. Lady, I have been written to by a number of my constituents who are marr...

Heidi Allen | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I speak as a woman with a German mother. I think that on some occasions my father wou...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the issue solved by the Government’s current proposals? When everything is brought into UK...

Heidi Allen | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that my hon. Friend has made an accurate point. I suppose the point I am trying to make...

Robert Jenrick | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Can we put this in context, so that people listening at home will understand and not feel unduly ...

Heidi Allen | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

That is a valid point, but this should not just be about a piece of paper and whether a form has ...

Mark Harper | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether my hon. Friend heard what I said earlier, but I meant it very sincerely. Mo...

George Howarth | 621 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Order. In the brief time for which I have been in the Chair, I have noted that some of the interv...

Heidi Allen | 621 c99 (Link to this contribution)

You will be pleased to know that my speech is very short, Mr Howarth, so I do not have much more ...

George Howarth | 621 c99 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I was talking about interventions, not speeches.

Heidi Allen | 621 c99 (Link to this contribution)

If the interventions are long, my speech will be short.

Let me say this to my right hon. Fr...

Heidi Allen | 621 c99 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that my hon. Friend will forgive me if I do not. I wish to make a bit of progress, but I w...

Alistair Carmichael | 621 cc99-100 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. and right hon. Friends have tabled several new clauses, but we have a remarkable range of...

Shailesh Vara | 621 c100 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman, for whom I have a huge amount of respect, is making a very good point a...

Alistair Carmichael | 621 cc100-1 (Link to this contribution)

I gently say to the hon. Gentleman, with whom I have worked in the past, and who I hold in some r...

Will Quince | 621 cc101-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Mr Carmichael), althoug...

Caroline Lucas | 621 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I do wish that the hon. Gentleman would not rewrite history. I have some lovely quotes here. The ...

Will Quince | 621 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, but those were selective quotes, taken out of context...

Anna Soubry | 621 c102 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend honestly saying that the good people of Colchester sat in a variety of places w...

Will Quince | 621 cc102-3 (Link to this contribution)

I think my right hon. Friend underestimates the intelligence of the people of Colchester.

I...

Helen Goodman | 621 c103 (Link to this contribution)

It is as pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth. I should like to speak to new cla...

Oliver Letwin | 621 c103 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady imagine that there would be no court cases about whether such quarterly report...

Helen Goodman | 621 c103 (Link to this contribution)

First, it is not clear that such cases would get leave of hearing. Secondly, any such case would ...

Oliver Letwin | 621 c103 (Link to this contribution)

So does the hon. Lady think that the Government would satisfy the conditions of her new clause if...

Helen Goodman | 621 c104 (Link to this contribution)

As the Chairman of the Select Committee said earlier, when we got into a discussion about the req...

Anna Soubry | 621 c104 (Link to this contribution)

Given the quality of your Front Bench.

Helen Goodman | 621 c104 (Link to this contribution)

Let me tell the right hon. Lady about the views that were expressed in my constituency, even thou...

Richard Graham | 621 c104 (Link to this contribution)

The vast majority of the amendments—I think I counted 30—tabled by members of the Opposition basi...

Helen Goodman | 621 c105 (Link to this contribution)

Had the hon. Gentleman been in his place to hear the fantastic speech by my hon. Friend the Membe...

Alex Chalk | 621 c105 (Link to this contribution)

The net effect of the hon. Lady’s new clause is that the High Court, not Parliament, would decide...

Helen Goodman | 621 cc105-6 (Link to this contribution)

Look, I am sorry that Government Members feel so bad about losing the Supreme Court case last mon...

Stephen Hammond | 621 c106 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady refers to guaranteeing the rights of EU citizens, and my hon. Friend the Member for...

Helen Goodman | 621 c106 (Link to this contribution)

I have not thought about that in as much detail as the hon. Gentleman, but it will be interesting...

Richard Fuller | 621 c106 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bishop Auckland (Helen Goodman), who expressed her...

Heidi Allen | 621 c106 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend asks whether the Bill is the right place for such a proposal. Should it be that we...

Richard Fuller | 621 cc106-7 (Link to this contribution)

I think my hon. Friend knows my view, so I will not dwell on that.

As I looked through the ...

Geraint Davies | 621 c107 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, by triggering article 50, we will simply give the EU27 all th...

Richard Fuller | 621 c108 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman would not get a top mark in negotiation analysis at Harvard Business School. T...

Stewart Hosie | 621 cc108-9 (Link to this contribution)

I support the new clauses and amendments tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for North East Fife ...

Will Quince | 621 c109 (Link to this contribution)

Did the Government leaflet, at great cost, not exactly make the point that single market membersh...

Stewart Hosie | 621 cc109-110 (Link to this contribution)

Many things were said, which is my point. Some might argue that being in the EEA or a member of E...

George Howarth | 621 c110 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am anxious to get in as many of the people who have sat throughout the debate as possibl...

Sarah Wollaston | 621 cc110-1 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to start by reading something from a letter I have received from a constituent. He talks a...

Julian Knight | 621 c111 (Link to this contribution)

I understand what my hon. Friend is saying about her constituency surgeries. I have had a similar...

Sarah Wollaston | 621 c111 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with that, and I have also heard from constituents of mine who are British citizens now l...

Richard Fuller | 621 c111 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend, but my question to her is: can she cast any thought on why the Chanc...

Sarah Wollaston | 621 c111 (Link to this contribution)

I have no idea why this is happening, but I am saying, as an important point to the Chancellor of...

Anna Soubry | 621 c111 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend not agree that the Prime Minister as given her word that this will be a prior...

Sarah Wollaston | 621 cc111-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that. Like her, I do trust the Prime Minister, and that is why I have ...

Owen Smith | 621 cc112-3 (Link to this contribution)

I shall make a short, pointed speech, because a lot of other Members have been present throughout...

Wes Streeting | 621 c113 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 56, which was tabled in my name and the names of right hon. and hon...

Anna Soubry | 621 c113 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is at best unfortunate that his Front Bench team has not us...

Wes Streeting | 621 c113 (Link to this contribution)

I have a lot of respect for how the right hon. Lady has conducted herself during the debate, but ...

Anna Soubry | 621 c114 (Link to this contribution)

I have made it clear that I very much hope the Government will see good sense, as is the case in ...

Wes Streeting | 621 c114 (Link to this contribution)

That is terribly disappointing.

As members of the single market and customs union, we are p...

Anna Soubry | 621 c114 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Wes Streeting | 621 c114 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I have given way already, and I am really conscious that others want to contribut...

Anna Soubry | 621 c115 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Wes Streeting | 621 c115 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way. I want to draw my remarks to a conclusion so that other Members can come in....

Caroline Lucas | 621 cc115-6 (Link to this contribution)

I very much support the amendments that are designed to increase parliamentary scrutiny and I hav...

Caroline Lucas | 621 c116 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, because there is no time.

Many in the EU want us to conclude the divor...

George Howarth | 621 c116 (Link to this contribution)

I call Jim Shannon. Before he starts, may I say that there is one more Member to be accommodated ...

Jim Shannon | 621 c116 (Link to this contribution)

I must start by thanking the Government for keeping the promise in the referendum. The Government...

Jim Shannon | 621 cc116-7 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way.

With that in mind, it is clear that we wish to see the Bill make p...

Julian Knight | 621 cc117-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will keep my comments brief as I am aware of the shortage of time. I was for remain in the refe...

David Jones | 621 c118 (Link to this contribution)

This short Bill has attracted a large number of new clauses that fall into a number of broad cate...

Stephen Gethins | 621 c118 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister tell us whether reassuring EU nationals is unnecessary?

David Jones | 621 c118 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to EU nationals later. As I explained a moment ago, I am currently dealing with the i...

Helen Goodman | 621 c119 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the Minister understands that parliamentary scrutiny is essential, but we have ...

David Jones | 621 c119 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the hon. Lady’s point. However, it is not the case that everything will, as she puts...

Geraint Davies | 621 c119 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister agree that the final deal should in fact be scrutinised by the British people, ...

David Jones | 621 cc119-120 (Link to this contribution)

The British people have had their say very clearly: they have instructed this Parliament that the...

Chris Leslie | 621 c120 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, because I know there are a lot of issues to be cove...

David Jones | 621 c120 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, we require, and we are looking to achieve, close co-operation with the European Union on...

David Jones | 621 c120 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way, because I have little time.

The Secretary of State announced in th...

Graham Stringer | 621 c120 (Link to this contribution)

I am following the Minister’s speech carefully. Does he agree that it is a mistake to put the pro...

David Jones | 621 c120 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an extremely important point. If these provisions were put into the Bill...

Caroline Lucas | 621 c121 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister acknowledge that there is at least a possibility that a new trade agreement wi...

David Jones | 621 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I can go no further than what I have already said. Of course, transitional arrangements require b...

David Jones | 621 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, I am afraid—I have very little time.

While these amendments call for d...

David Jones | 621 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way because I have little time.

As the Prime Minister told the House this a...

David Jones | 621 cc121-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way any further.

This is less an issue of principle than of timing, with a ...

Gerald Howarth | 621 c122 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

David Jones | 621 c122 (Link to this contribution)

I will take no further interventions; I am sorry. Only after the Bill has become law can my right...

Gerald Howarth | 621 c122 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend, who is doing a fantastic job in this position on...

David Jones | 621 c122 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point.

David Jones | 621 c122 (Link to this contribution)

Bear with me. This will be a matter for negotiation in due course, but ultimately we must all be ...

David Jones | 621 c122 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a moment. I can tell the House that I have discussed the matter on numerous oc...

Margaret Ferrier | 621 c123 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for finally giving way. I want to talk about my constituent Mr Joerg Nueter,...

David Jones | 621 c123 (Link to this contribution)

We owe the primary responsibility to our citizens in EU countries, but we also owe a duty to EU n...

Matthew Pennycook | 621 c123 (Link to this contribution)

I will be very brief. I am pleased that the Minister has recognised the thoughtfulness of new cla...

Chris Leslie | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Ms Engel. I seek your guidance on how right hon. and hon. Members can divide...

Natascha Engel | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

Before I answer the hon. Gentleman’s point of order, I should say that any further points of orde...

Natascha Engel | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

On that note, unless there are any new points of order, I think that we should move on. It is imp...

Wes Streeting | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point of order, Ms Engel. I am grateful to you. I do not think that any hon. Memb...

Natascha Engel | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

That is not a point of order. It is very close to challenging the decision of the Chair.

Natascha Engel | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to take the right hon. Gentleman’s point of order, but the next group is on devolved l...

Alex Salmond | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

There is no challenge to the Chair in any of these points of order. Hon. Members are entitled to ...

Natascha Engel | 621 c128 (Link to this contribution)

Order. This is not about the programme motion on which the House voted. That was not a decision t...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c129 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point of order, Ms Engel. I simply seek clarification of something you said a few...

Natascha Engel | 621 c129 (Link to this contribution)

It may be, but it is not necessarily the case. For this group, we decided that only the lead amen...

Barry Sheerman | 621 c129 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point of order, Ms Engel. On that last point, we have to answer to our constituen...

Natascha Engel | 621 c129 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to move on. That is not a point of order. This was a decision taken by the Chair. It w...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c129 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Natascha Engel | 621 cc130-4 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 23—Duty to Consult Sco...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 cc134-5 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 4, tabled in my name and those of my hon. Friends, requires the Government to consult ...

Alan Brown | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady talked about voices being heard. Her party’s position on Second Reading was to vote...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say that the hon. Gentleman is incredibly defeatist. We intend to win with our amendmen...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Lady will know, the White Paper mentions the Northern Ireland First Minister and Depu...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

I had anticipated that intervention from the hon. Gentleman, consistent as he is in raising such ...

Oliver Letwin | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government wish to proceed with article 50, and if SNP Members do not wish to proceed with...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that it is difficult. [Laughter.] I do not think it is funny, but it is difficult. Our am...

Chris Bryant | 621 c135 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a bigger issue here? Many of the areas that have heretofore been the responsibility ...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

Of course that is true. That is the spirit in which we tabled the new clause, and we hope it is t...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

I have given way a few times already. I shall make a bit of progress, and then I will be happy to...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the truth that the hon. Lady knows, we know and the whole House knows that the Scottish...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman needs to read the new clause a bit more carefully. It is clearly not a wreckin...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

I am spoilt for choice, but I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff South and Pe...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a very strong speech. I support the desire of Labour Front Benchers to p...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. I am in danger of reading out my speech before I reach the part in quest...

Alex Salmond | 621 c136 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady give way? I want to be helpful.

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c137 (Link to this contribution)

I want to say more about the issue of Wales. The Government owe it to the people of Wales, Scotla...

Alex Salmond | 621 c137 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. Lady, unlike Conservative Members, will have read the paper that the Scottis...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c137 (Link to this contribution)

That intervention would probably be better aimed at the Government Front Bench.

The Governm...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c137 (Link to this contribution)

I have given way quite a lot and would like to make a little more progress. Many Members will wan...

Sammy Wilson | 621 c137 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady mentions the Good Friday agreement and the commitments in it, but as it was between...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

What we are asking for, and what new clause 109 asks for, is certainty. I do not think that that ...

Shailesh Vara | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady speaks of veto. She will be aware—she mentioned this earlier in her speech—that the...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to take it personally that the hon. Gentleman was not listening carefully to the b...

Stephen Pound | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the gentleness with which my hon. Friend is responding to the various interventions,...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention.

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, but only because I cannot find my place in my speech. This is the last intervent...

Lord Swire | 621 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to be able to afford the hon. Lady time to find her place. Should she not think ab...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 cc138-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the right hon. Gentleman is going to have to put his misgivings about the Scotti...

Mark Harper | 621 c139 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to you for calling me to speak, Ms Engel. I can see that Members are looking forwar...

Oliver Letwin | 621 c139 (Link to this contribution)

Did my right hon. Friend also notice that the Opposition spokesman referred to “embedding” the Sc...

Mark Harper | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has a much greater command of history than I do, but even with my limited re...

Lord Swire | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for praying me in aid; he is absolutely right. My real poin...

Mark Harper | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes that point—[Interruption.]

Stewart Malcolm McDonald | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Ms Engel. Was what the right hon. Member for East Devon (Sir Hugo Swire) jus...

Natascha Engel | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

It was not unparliamentary as the First Minister of Scotland is not a Member of this House.

Mark Harper | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious that I have taken interventions from the Government Benches but not from the Oppos...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

May I provide an example? Policing in Scotland is devolved to the Scottish Parliament, and polici...

Mark Harper | 621 c140 (Link to this contribution)

I have no issue with the Government seeking to reach a consensus. There are two issues. One, as I...

Ian Murray | 621 c141 (Link to this contribution)

While the right hon. Gentleman is talking about distinctions, I want to make another distinction ...

Mark Harper | 621 c141 (Link to this contribution)

While the Scottish nationalists are currently in government in Scotland, I completely agree that ...

Alasdair McDonnell | 621 c141 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman not understand how serious this issue is? Does he not understand th...

Mark Harper | 621 c141 (Link to this contribution)

I have not been intolerant to anyone. I have taken interventions from both sides of the House, an...

Mark Harper | 621 c141 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make some progress, because otherwise other Members will not have the opportunity to speak...

Ian Murray | 621 c141 (Link to this contribution)

It is people who were normally resident in Scotland before they moved abroad. It is quite simple....

Mark Harper | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

“Scottish nationals” implies that they are somehow tied to Scotland other than by residence. If s...

Mark Harper | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

But the hon. Gentleman just said that his definition of a Scottish national is someone who reside...

Mark Harper | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Gentleman one more time.

Ian Murray | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I say gently to the right hon. Gentleman that his Government’s pushing through the programme moti...

Mark Harper | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I will not address that issue now, as we debated it at length with the previous group of amendmen...

Ian Blackford | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman not understand that, in presenting this proposal to the UK Governme...

Mark Harper | 621 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the hon. Gentleman will forgive me—and I am sure my colleagues on the Government Benches w...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can help the right hon. Gentleman to understand where Scottish National party Members a...

Mark Harper | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

I would not. The leader of the Conservatives in Scotland—I am pleased to say that she is the Lead...

Mark Harper | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

I have taken the hon. and learned Lady’s intervention and I will now make some progress.

Michael Gove | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Michael Gove | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend might not have had the chance to follow the Scottish independence referendum...

Mark Harper | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, my right hon. Friend hits the nail on the head.

Let me move relatively briefly thr...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 621 c143 (Link to this contribution)

When the right hon. Gentleman turns to the issues affecting Northern Ireland, will he take the op...

Mark Harper | 621 c144 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for elucidating that for the House. Indeed, I detected from t...

Mark Harper | 621 c144 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Lady tabled the new clause, I will of course give way to her.

Seema Malhotra | 621 c144 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. I look forward to discussing this matter further...

Mark Harper | 621 c144 (Link to this contribution)

That is a helpful intervention, because the hon. Lady has tempted me to say a little more about h...

Mark Harper | 621 c144 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, them, along with Members of the National Assembly of Wales and of the Northern Ireland Assem...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will agree that it is vital to have the regions of England invol...

Mark Harper | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

To be honest, I thought there was quite a lot of national conversation last year. When I talked t...

James Cleverly | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend just ran through that list; does he agree that the people who were told that...

Mark Harper | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend put that well. The new clause would not involve members of the public at all; it w...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Mark Harper | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

No, I shall not give way to the hon. Lady again. I gave way to her twice, and we can look forward...

Barry Sheerman | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Ms Engel. The right hon. Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper) has been spea...

Natascha Engel | 621 c145 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman is aware, there are no time limits at this stage of a Bill. There is a limi...

Mark Harper | 621 c146 (Link to this contribution)

I have taken interventions from colleagues on both sides of the House, just as I did in the previ...

Mark Durkan | 621 c146 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. He will recall that, even in his own remarks, he...

Mark Harper | 621 c146 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman may be guilty of jumping quite a lot of steps in advance. There is no evidence...

Mark Harper | 621 c146 (Link to this contribution)

I will take one more intervention from the hon. Gentleman and then I will make some progress.

...
Mark Durkan | 621 c146 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman not recognise that the key wording in new clause 150 comes from the...

Mark Harper | 621 c147 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I come back to what the hon. Gentleman just said about how the English people voted. If he...

Mark Harper | 621 c147 (Link to this contribution)

I have one more new clause to talk to and then I will sit down.

New clause 109 talks about ...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c147 (Link to this contribution)

I am very disappointed to hear that the right hon. Gentleman is coming to the end of his contribu...

Mark Harper | 621 c147 (Link to this contribution)

Based on the Twitter trolling that I receive, I suspect that most people contacting the hon. Lady...

Natascha Engel | 621 c147 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We really must get back to the group of amendments.

Mark Harper | 621 c147 (Link to this contribution)

I have been tempted to speak for longer than I had intended.

I hope that, after running thr...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 cc147-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to the amendments tabled in my name and in the names of my hon. and right hon. Frien...

Alex Salmond | 621 c148 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to do something that I have never done before—quote an extract from The Daily Telegrap...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c148 (Link to this contribution)

Interestingly, if hon. Members turn to page 17 of the so-called White Paper, they will see a chan...

Neil Gray | 621 c148 (Link to this contribution)

On that basis, is my hon. Friend surprised that the UK Government now seem willing to seek separa...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c148 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that issue in a moment.

The Scottish National party’s compromise amendments ...

Lord Swire | 621 c149 (Link to this contribution)

In retrospect, does the hon. Lady regret the SNP’s peddling of the myth during the Brexit campaig...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c149 (Link to this contribution)

The only myths in the independence referendum in Scotland were those peddled by the right hon. Ge...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 621 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Could the hon. Lady clarify whether new clause 26 would effectively give the First Minister of Sc...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 cc149-150 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, whose interventions are always astute. I refer him to the wo...

Patrick Grady | 621 c150 (Link to this contribution)

I hope my hon. Friend will press all these provisions to a vote, because everyone here loves troo...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 cc150-1 (Link to this contribution)

As usual, my hon. Friend makes very salient comments, although I suspect they will fall on deaf e...

Shailesh Vara | 621 c151 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady talks about the Prime Minister respecting a decision. Will the hon. Lady respect th...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c151 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has already made that intervention and was given an answer. Is it his position...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c151 (Link to this contribution)

No, the hon. Gentleman has had more than enough time.

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 cc151-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am not taking any more interventions. I have answered the hon. Gentleman’s question.

We a...

Peter Bone | 621 c152 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a very passionate speech, but clearly if the pound devalues, that is very...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c152 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, as ever, for his recognition of a passionate speech, althoug...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c152 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way just now, if the right hon. Gentleman does not mind.

In relation...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c152 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way just now; allow me a few minutes to make some progress.

This mor...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 621 c152 (Link to this contribution)

I have been listening very carefully to the points that the hon. Lady made with regard to Norther...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 cc152-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for making that point, which I understand. However, I would a...

Michael Gove | 621 c153 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady referred earlier to the impact of the pound being devalued. Could she tell us which...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 621 c153 (Link to this contribution)

As my colleagues are saying from a sedentary position, the right hon. Gentleman does not believe ...

John Redwood | 621 c154 (Link to this contribution)

I support the remarks of my right hon. Friend the Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper). I though...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c154 (Link to this contribution)

May I assure the right hon. Gentleman that if he were minded to bring forward any amendments deal...

John Redwood | 621 c154 (Link to this contribution)

I have not done so, because I agree with my right hon. Friend the Member for Forest of Dean and G...

John Redwood | 621 c154 (Link to this contribution)

If we take the referendum as a national, UK-wide referendum, we will of course take into account ...

Roger Gale | 621 c155 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sorry to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman. The conventions are absolutely clear: th...

John Redwood | 621 c155 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to you, Sir Roger. I was trying to deal with the previous intervention. As a c...

Mark Durkan | 621 c155 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has indicted the Labour party and the SNP for not, in this group of amen...

John Redwood | 621 c155 (Link to this contribution)

I am well aware of that, and I am well aware that we have different arrangements around the count...

Ian Blackford | 621 c155 (Link to this contribution)

We must reflect on what we were told in 2014, and that is that we were asked to lead the Union. I...

John Redwood | 621 cc155-6 (Link to this contribution)

Some of the SNP Members do protest too much. I seem to remember that they actively fought two ref...

Patrick Grady | 621 c156 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Sir Roger. I keep hearing the right hon. Gentleman talking about the “Scotti...

Roger Gale | 621 c156 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will understand that that is not a point of order for the Chair.

John Redwood | 621 c156 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that another advert has been given for the Scottish National party. We understand ...

Paul Flynn | 621 c156 (Link to this contribution)

The memory of the right hon. Gentleman serving as the governor-general of Wales is treasured beca...

John Redwood | 621 cc156-7 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, the United Kingdom, through this Parliament, has decided that there will be differential arr...

John Redwood | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman says it is now, but we are still in the EU, and that is the position we are ab...

Lord Swire | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend believe, like me, that the SNP will join in the discussion if, on exiti...

John Redwood | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that that is exactly right. I look forward to the day when the SNP accepts the verdict ...

Ian Blackford | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman therefore join me and my colleagues in demanding that powers that m...

John Redwood | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

It is not my job as an English MP to make that case, but I am glad that at last the SNP is making...

Anne Main | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend share my puzzlement that the SNP is not welcoming back control over thi...

John Redwood | 621 c157 (Link to this contribution)

Fishing is a prime example of a deeply damaging policy pursued over 45 years during our term in t...

Alex Salmond | 621 c158 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman will remember the famous civil service memo when Britain was negotiating...

John Redwood | 621 c158 (Link to this contribution)

Because the British people have advised the British Government to be much more sensible on the wa...

Michael Gove | 621 c158 (Link to this contribution)

I speak as the son and grandson of fish merchants, and I should point out that it was the Scottis...

John Redwood | 621 cc158-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for making a powerful point and for making the Committee ev...

Conor McGinn | 621 cc159-160 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 109, tabled in my name and those of my right hon. and hon. Friends....

Ian Jnr Paisley | 621 c160 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the hon. Gentleman a question about new clause 109? He is asking Her Majesty’s Governme...

Conor McGinn | 621 cc160-1 (Link to this contribution)

I think it important to bear in mind the uncertainty that has been caused by the vote to leave th...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 621 c161 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that it would be very appropriate if the Minister tonight confirmed tha...

Conor McGinn | 621 cc161-2 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely and pay tribute to my right hon. Friend for the valuable and important work she ...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c162 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. I congratulate the hon. Member for ...

Mark Williams | 621 c162 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman represents a rural constituency, as do I. Would he like to remind the House of...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c163 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has made a point that I shall make later in my speech. We were promised absolu...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c163 (Link to this contribution)

I wholeheartedly support new clause 158. It is a shame that my new clause 157 was not selected; i...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c163 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, and for his new clause, which we would have been...

Nick Thomas-Symonds | 621 c163 (Link to this contribution)

Further to the point that my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff South and Penarth (Stephen Dought...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c163 (Link to this contribution)

That is a pertinent point, and I am happy that colleagues will support us in the Lobby if we get ...

Albert Owen | 621 c163 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, will be supporting the hon. Gentleman’s new clause 158 in the Lobby this evening if a vot...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 cc163-4 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the hon. Gentleman’s intervention, and I will be supporting the new clause tabled by th...

Paul Flynn | 621 c164 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the extraordinary attitude taken by the Government and the Pri...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c164 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is correct, as always, and I will come to that point later in my speech when I...

Madeleine Moon | 621 c164 (Link to this contribution)

Last week, I asked about guarantees about tariffs, specifically that there be no tariffs on Ford ...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c165 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is right to mention the fears about Ford because it is a major employer. I pay trib...

Stephen Doughty | 621 c165 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Does he agree that the problem with some speeches fr...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c165 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree. That is why new clause 162 is important in that wider debate. Government Memb...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c165 (Link to this contribution)

In all the hon. Gentleman’s remarks, he skates over the fact that it was a referendum of the Unit...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c166 (Link to this contribution)

I am not questioning the referendum result. I am trying to work out what happens next in the inte...

Tommy Sheppard | 621 c166 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the likely rejection of his amendment by Government Members, a...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c166 (Link to this contribution)

I agree exactly with the hon. Gentleman, but I would go further. My great fear is that Brexit wil...

Wayne David | 621 c166 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but does he agree that what we need more than anything ...

Jonathan Edwards | 621 c166 (Link to this contribution)

I fully agree with the hon. Gentleman. The amendments tabled by the SNP, Plaid Cymru and Labour e...

Owen Paterson | 621 cc166-7 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened to the debate with interest, but I had not intended to contribute, so I will be b...

Alex Salmond | 621 c167 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend the Member for Rutherglen and Hamilton West (Margaret Ferrier) just predicted exac...

Owen Paterson | 621 cc167-8 (Link to this contribution)

I like having a helpful intervention, which gives me another chance to remind the Committee that ...

Ian Murray | 621 c168 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman used the term “shedloads”. Will he tell the House how much “shedloads” i...

Owen Paterson | 621 c168 (Link to this contribution)

The latest figure I saw was about £10 billion, so significant funds from the EU pass through the ...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 621 c168 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman understand or accept that direct negotiations would have taken plac...

Owen Paterson | 621 cc168-9 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am perfectly happy to accept that. That was in the negotiation before I arrived. I worked ...

Danny Kinahan | 621 c169 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that a lot of the changes and things that must happen in futu...

Owen Paterson | 621 c169 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that the words “looking after Ireland” will be that welcome in a proud independent ...

Mark Durkan | 621 cc169-171 (Link to this contribution)

The real guarantors of the peace process were the people of Ireland when they voted by referendum...

Lord Swire | 621 c170 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is talking about some extraordinarily challenging and difficult issues, which ...

Mark Durkan | 621 cc170-4 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has some neck to ask the Social Democratic and Labour party not to make ...

Lord Swire | 621 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that before there are any new bodies or any more reviews, the p...

Mark Durkan | 621 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and my party and I are fully pledged to doing that. Nobody worked harder to create the princ...

Lord Elliott of Ballinamallard | 621 c175 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that if article 50 is triggered we will no longer have InterTrad...

Mark Durkan | 621 c175 (Link to this contribution)

I point out to the hon. Gentleman that it was his party that said, “If we are going to go ahead a...

Roger Gale | 621 c175 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I have no power to impose time limits on Committee stage debates. A lot of Members wish to...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c176 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Sir Roger, and to follow the hon. Member for F...

Susan Elan Jones | 621 c176 (Link to this contribution)

We have already spoken about the validity of the devolved Administrations in issues relating to t...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c176 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I respect the devolved Administrations. I respect the constituent nations of this count...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c176 (Link to this contribution)

I say to the hon. Gentleman before I give way to him that he should calm himself. He jumps up and...

Ian Blackford | 621 c176 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not recognise that 62% of people in Scotland voted to remain in Europe? I...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c177 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman should know that the biggest single market that Scotland is part of is the Uni...

Alex Salmond | 621 c177 (Link to this contribution)

May I tell the hon. Gentleman that I think his memory is faulty on the AV referendum? It was on t...

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c177 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman likes to talk about the elections to the Scottish Parliament, but we are...

Michael Gove | 621 c177 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Sir Roger. Immediately preceding the intervention by the right hon. Member f...

Roger Gale | 621 c177 (Link to this contribution)

Happily, as the right hon. Gentleman knows, that is not a matter for the Chair.

Charlie Elphicke | 621 c177 (Link to this contribution)

I want to conclude my remarks by saying that it is high time the Labour party respected the fact ...

Seema Malhotra | 621 cc177-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the chance to speak in this important debate about how we can engage more with ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 621 c178 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that the Secretary of State for Brexit said there would be some kind of...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c178 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point. Indeed, the lack of engagement with the regions has ...

Catherine McKinnell | 621 c178 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State actually said that he would get

“the mayors of the north to come and...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c178 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point. It comes down to how much the Government are really ...

Seema Malhotra | 621 cc178-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress first.

The national convention would include a wider set of voice...

Anna Soubry | 621 c179 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady says that Members of the European Parliament would sit in the national convention. ...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c179 (Link to this contribution)

We need to have a way in which the expertise of our many long-standing Members of the European Pa...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c179 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress, because we have only a few moments left and other Members wish to spea...

Seema Malhotra | 621 cc179-180 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that we are running short of time.

People wanted more information and more deba...

Sammy Wilson | 621 c180 (Link to this contribution)

Can the hon. Lady clear something up for me? She is proposing a national assembly, the purpose of...

Seema Malhotra | 621 c180 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can clear this up. The maximum time is to encourage engagement over the period of the n...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c180 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of amendment 46, which stands in my name and that of my hon. Friends, ...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way. I am going to—

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I ask the hon. and learned Lady to take her seat. I have been very kind in bringing in the...

Joanna Cherry | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

The purpose of the amendment is to require the Government to do what they said they would do when...

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I think that the hon. and learned Lady’s speech has come to an end. Let us now please hear...

Robin Walker | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Hoyle. [Interruption.]

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Salmond, you should know better. [Interruption.] Order. One second.

11.45 pm

Alex Salmond | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. It is clear that my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Edinbur...

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

As the occupant of the Chair, I have the right to make decisions in this Committee. [Interruption...

Robin Walker | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for your chairing of this debate, Mr Hoyle. [Interruption.]

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Calm down, Mr Wishart. This is a very serious matter. It is so serious that I want to hear what t...

Robin Walker | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

This is a hugely important debate. [Interruption.]

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Mr Salmond, will you clarify something for me?

Alex Salmond | 621 c182 (Link to this contribution)

Other Members have been making their contributions without any admonition from the Chair.

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c182 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Tempers are running quite high. We need to calm it down. In fairness, I have been very gen...

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c182 (Link to this contribution)

I am saying that I am sure that was not the case. I did not accuse you; far from it. Let us now g...

Robin Walker | 621 c182 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Hoyle.

We have heard from all four corners of the United Kingdom. [Interrupti...

Ian Blackford | 621 c182 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. I have to say that I have great respect for you as the Chairman, b...

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c182 (Link to this contribution)

I assumed my place in the Chair, and I have tried to ensure that a second SNP voice was heard, an...

Robin Walker | 621 cc182-3 (Link to this contribution)

Engaging with the devolved Administrations and discussing their priorities is exactly what the Jo...

Robin Walker | 621 c183 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, but I can give way only once.

Ian Murray | 621 c183 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that the Minister has been able to give way. I wonder whether he and other Ministe...

Robin Walker | 621 cc183-4 (Link to this contribution)

The House voted for a programme motion, and that programme motion has been followed by the Chair....

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 621 c184 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister opened his remarks by saying that the JMC was not on a statutory footing. That is pr...

Ian Murray | 621 c184 (Link to this contribution)

Given that we have not reached the moment of interruption, Mr Hoyle, may I move new clauses 23 an...

Lindsay Hoyle | 621 c184 (Link to this contribution)

Unfortunately not.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time.

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