European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill
Thursday, 26 January 2017
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House of Commons
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
New clause 20—Financial services—...
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New clause 3 concerns the parliamentary oversight of the negotiations that will follow the trigge...
I will not give way and will make a little progress, if that is okay.
The Supreme Court was...
Does the hon. Gentleman really think that in a negotiation that could take many months and which ...
I want to make it clear that we are not asking the Government to reveal the minutiae of the negot...
I will make some progress, if I may.
First, although Ministers obviously need sufficient ro...
If the House is to pore over the details of the Government’s negotiating position and express its...
If the hon. Gentleman will allow me to make some progress, he will see that that is not what we a...
Does my hon. Friend agree that it is important that Parliament is sovereign throughout the whole ...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. As she will see, we are asking for no more and no less th...
I think the hon. Gentleman will find that most European papers are published in English by the Ho...
I have been absolutely clear about that, I am afraid, and it is up to the Government to determine...
Let me make a little more progress, if I may.
In acknowledging the delicate balance between...
I respect the democratic result of the referendum, but we all owe it to our constituents to get t...
That is precisely why scrutiny is important, and if the Government were approaching this in a rea...
Even the Prime Minister’s statement today did not provide certainty. What constituents who have l...
I agree 100% with my right hon. Friend.
May I urge my hon. Friend to look at the report of a commission organised by British Future, whic...
I think that that echoes part of a suggestion that we have made. It is touched on in other new cl...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I shall make a little progress, if I may.
Hon. Members will know that permanent residence i...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I am happy to give way, but then I am going to make a bit of progress.
The hon. Gentleman says that we are not debating the detail, but I am afraid that that is what he...
As the right hon. Gentleman will know, it depends on the terms of the sentence. New clause 6 seek...
The only question that remains is whether the rights that flow from permanent residency, and the ...
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I will not give way, if that is okay, because I know that many other Members wish to speak, and I...
I am not going to give way any further.
There are hard-headed as well as moral reasons for ...
I note that this group is a fairly hefty one with a large number of amendments, but I wish to mak...
I agree with my right hon. Friend that there is a vast amount of information already coming out. ...
I completely agree with my hon. Friend and it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that, certainl...
Does my right hon. Friend agree that the effect, if not the intent, of the Opposition new clause ...
My right hon. Friend makes a very good point. Once we put things into primary legislation and set...
Should not any Member of this House want to have as a minimum requirement access to information a...
The point I was making—and I think my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare (John Penrose)...
Is not one of the problems that, in recent years, motions have regularly been carried by the Hous...
I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman rose to his feet, because I am about to turn away from my fi...
The right hon. Gentleman has mentioned new clause 51, which has been tabled in my name and those ...
The hon. Gentleman is picking out one aspect of his new clause. I was drawing out an aspect, to w...
The hon. Gentleman tempts me.
I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for being tempted. Another big area in which the Govern...
One of the flaws in the hon. Gentleman’s suggestion is that all the matters to which he refers ar...
Has not this exchange demonstrated the foolhardiness of revealing our hand at this stage, given t...
I could not agree more with my right hon. Friend. That demonstrates the expertise that he acquire...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Let me just finish my point. We would have no ability to influence the rules that we would have t...
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Let me give way to the hon. Member for Ilford South (Mike Gapes), who I think was first on his fe...
Will the right hon. Gentleman confirm that Norway is not in the European Union, that Norway was c...
I can confirm to the House that Norway is not a member of the European Union. That is indeed true...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Let me finish answering the point of the hon. Member for Ilford South and then I will of course t...
I completely agree with my right hon. Friend. Constructs such as the EEA are effectively antecham...
I could not have put it better myself. I will now give way to the hon. Lady.
Will the right hon. Gentleman tell the House whether he believes that Parliament should vote on w...
I do not. I will put my cards on the table: I was on the remain side, but I am a democrat, so I a...
If I can finish my answer, I will of course take an intervention.
However, the British publ...
It is quite right that the then Prime Minister and Chancellor warned that leaving the EU would me...
My right hon. and learned Friend is right that not everybody on the leave side made that argument...
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way to the chair of the official leave campaign. Alth...
I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for that helpful intervention, which rather proves my point....
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I want to move on to my fourth point, on the important iss...
Some 15% of the academic staff, 5% of students and 10% of research students at Cardiff University...
I completely agree with the hon. Lady, which is why I am pleased that the Prime Minister, in her ...
The right hon. Gentleman is courteous in giving way. I am a member of the Exiting the European Un...
I have, and the hon. and learned Lady has now put it before the House, but the problem is that I ...
The point that these British nationals living abroad made was that the British Government put thi...
I go back to the premise of the hon. and learned Lady’s question; it was not the British Governme...
It is the same thing—
No, with the greatest respect, it is not the same thing. These issues have arisen and there is a ...
If Members will forgive me, I shall make a little progress.
I will give way to the Chairman of the Treasury Committee, but then I must make some progress.
My right hon. Friend would agree, however, that other nationals should not be treated as bargaini...
I completely agree on the value to the economy. I also agree on this being an urgent matter, and ...
The right hon. Gentleman was a Minister and he has been in negotiations. If we put on the table t...
I was listening carefully to what the Prime Minister said, and it sounds to me as though she and ...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for trying to intervene, but I need to finish replying to the...
I rise to support new clause 57, which was tabled in my name and the names of other members of th...
New clause 57 was recommended by the Joint Committee on Human Rights. My constituent who is a con...
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. There was plenty of other such evidence that came before ...
I have considerable sympathy with the point that the right hon. and learned Lady is making. We di...
I disagree with the right hon. Gentleman’s conclusion.
Is my right hon. and learned Friend aware that we also heard evidence in the Home Affairs Committ...
My right hon. Friend is absolutely right.
I am sure that many MPs in this Chamber have also had constituents from the EU who have tried to ...
I absolutely agree with the hon. Lady.
It is not just EU nationals and their families who a...
I recently had a conversation with the chair and chief executive of the trust in my constituency,...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We cannot say that we welcome them here to do such work, but ...
My right hon. and learned Friend is being very generous with her time. Constituents have come to ...
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend.
I will give way just once more.
The right hon. Lady is sending out a powerful message about British values and—this point is shar...
We simply cannot trade one off against the other like that. This is not an economic trade negotia...
My right hon. Friend the Member for West Dorset (Sir Oliver Letwin), who was in the Chamber a sho...
I ask the hon. Gentleman the same question that I asked the right hon. Member for Forest of Dean ...
I have enormous sympathy with that. In point of fact, the Secretary of State for Brexit gave evid...
New clause 3(c) would
“make arrangements for Parliamentary scrutiny of confidential documen...
Well, they certainly would not. That is really the purpose of the limité restriction. Although I ...
My hon. Friends and I have also tabled some amendments. I am glad that we have the opportunity to...
My hon. Friend is making some very valid points. Will we not also be judged on the leadership we ...
As usual, my hon. Friend makes a very pertinent point. I pay due respect to the work he has done ...
The hon. Gentleman is making a very cogent and well-structured argument, and I broadly agree with...
The hon. Gentleman makes my point for me. The ECHR is under threat from this very Government, so ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, but I will say this to the hon. Gentleman, because he probably has a lot more influence on th...
The situation is even worse. While accepting what the hon. Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Tom ...
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point, and I am not surprised, given the amount of hard work he...
Before I call the next colleague, let me say that it will be obvious to the Committee that a grea...
On a point of order, Mrs Laing. It is quite obvious that the programme motion will not allow for ...
Further to that point of order, Mrs Laing. When I considered the Government’s programme motion, i...
The former Chief Whip makes a very good point. It is not a point of order for the Chair, but one ...
I shall seek not to detain the Committee for too long so as not to repeat many of the arguments t...
I entirely agree that we need to sort this out very early on. Indeed, our right hon. Friend the P...
I do agree, because this cuts both ways. It is cheap politicking to talk about bargaining chips—I...
I am delighted to hear my right hon. Friend agree in ringing tones with what everybody has said s...
I hope my right hon. and learned Friend is right. He has not always been right about everything, ...
Does my right hon. Friend share my view that if the matter is as simple as some make out—if it is...
It may do, or it may not. As my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Rushcliffe (Mr Clark...
If the cynics among us genuinely believe that there could be countries out there that are not pre...
I do not know whether my hon. Friend was here earlier when the Prime Minister was asked about the...
Does the right hon. Gentleman not think that a unilateral declaration would undo some of the dama...
I agree with the hon. Lady that language and sensitivity are incredibly important. We are dealing...
The right hon. Gentleman has talked about the issues faced by British citizens whose partners are...
We can all cite examples from our surgeries of individual cases, but I am not sure that to do so ...
My right hon. Friend is absolutely right to be concerned about the fate of British citizens livin...
Indeed, and no doubt there are similar examples of British people in not-dissimilar situations in...
I rise to support new clauses 3 and 57. I commend my hon. Friend the Member for Greenwich and Woo...
I was not at that Committee hearing, and I am quite interested to know whether evidence was taken...
No, we have not taken evidence from ambassadors, but we have heard what has been said from the Go...
The main point I was making, and I stand by it, is that new clause 3 imposes a legal obligation, ...
I would say to the hon. Gentleman, who has great experience in these matters, that we know the Co...
I do not propose to speak for more than a few minutes. I have been wrestling with this matter for...
I am just curious. I support the Prime Minister’s intentions and most definitely her sincerity in...
Again, I repeat the comment I made to the Prime Minister that it would be
“a decisive mark ...
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for the conclusion that he has reached. The other thing the Prime...
I absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend, but a promise has been made about an early agreemen...
The hon. Gentleman has obviously made a personal decision on this matter. He uses the analogy of ...
As I mentioned, had I been Prime Minister in July, I might have started the whole process very di...
I do not see a need to force the Government to do that. It would be politically impossible for th...
My hon. Friend is on the right side of all these arguments, but he is a very trusting man. Does h...
I respect the judgments and comments of my right hon. and learned Friend. However, I read his rec...
It was touching to hear the hon. Member for South Leicestershire (Alberto Costa) talk about his h...
Is it not worth noting that when it came to debating the Lisbon treaty and the Maastricht treaty,...
My hon. Friend is completely right. This Bill is far more important than all those treaties wrapp...
I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for his diligence on this Bill and for tabling these important ne...
Absolutely. When hon. Members are asked by their constituents, “What time did you have to debate ...
Is it right that the hon. Gentleman talks down the City of London in this way? We all know about ...
I really hope that that is the case. I absolutely share the hon. Gentleman’s aspiration, but he s...
It is not talking down the City of London to highlight the report by TheCityUK emphasising that t...
These are the realities we face.
Is it not my hon. Friend’s point that we are now a service economy? The service sector accounts f...
That is another issue that deserves a massive amount of consideration, but we just do not have th...
I do not know what the Government are worried about. Anybody who knows anything about negotiation...
I think they might be scared of the debate. It also reflects their lack of awareness of the issue...
By logical extension, the hon. Gentleman wants to unpick almost every single part of EU policy, l...
It would take more than the three days that the right hon. Gentleman and his hon. Friends have gi...
Is it not the agencies that will be the biggest problem? The Government describe moving everythin...
That is the fallacy behind the reassurances to hon. Members. We are told, “Don’t worry. We can co...
The Health Secretary told the Health Committee the other day that he had already thrown in the to...
Yes, and, again, we have heard no strategic alternatives from the Government and have no idea wha...
Given that the Government have said that they will pull out of Euratom, because it is part of the...
I do not think Ministers know what to say about some of these questions. They hope that because t...
Is my hon. Friend aware that as a result of our leaving the EMA many jobs in the medical and drug...
I am afraid to say to my hon. Friend not only that he is right, but that the list goes on—the lis...
Oh, the right hon. Gentleman knows what the plan is for the E111.
If the hon. Gentleman had read it, he would understand it perfectly as well as I do. The plan is ...
I do not know whether the right hon. Gentleman has actually left these shores and visited other c...
My hon. Friend makes a very important point about the E111 scheme, because that will have a pract...
The consequences of this aspect and many others are myriad. I hope that the House will begin to w...
I want to move on, if I may.
When it comes to education, science and research issues, we wi...
My hon. Friend is indeed making an excellent speech and highlighting the complexity of the challe...
We should have the time, the space and the opportunity to discuss the consequences for my hon. Fr...
My hon. Friend is doing an excellent job of trying to scrutinise the implications of this Bill, y...
Exactly. We need to use the two-year negotiation period wisely. We shall come on in Committee tom...
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that as well as having an environment policy, we need to make sure ...
In that case, I will move on to new clause 122, which references the European Investment Bank. It...
As it happens, the protected status of Stilton cheese prohibits people living in the village of S...
Finally, we get some sign of life from Conservative Members. They are finally interested in the c...
Blessed are the cheesemakers, wherever they happen to live, but may I return my hon. Friend to ne...
As my hon. Friend says, there are serious questions about hazards that could affect our constitue...
I want to speak briefly about new clauses 171, 173 and, principally, 57.
I am proud to repr...
The hon. Lady is making a very important speech, but is she aware that it is not necessary to lea...
I entirely agree. I think that what is most important is for Ministers to listen to organisations...
Does the hon. Lady agree that one of the problems that universities are experiencing is that PhD ...
I regularly speak to members of the University of Cambridge, because a couple of its colleges are...
Like, probably, the hon. Lady, I have been written to by a number of my constituents who are marr...
Absolutely. I speak as a woman with a German mother. I think that on some occasions my father wou...
Is not the issue solved by the Government’s current proposals? When everything is brought into UK...
I am sure that my hon. Friend has made an accurate point. I suppose the point I am trying to make...
Can we put this in context, so that people listening at home will understand and not feel unduly ...
That is a valid point, but this should not just be about a piece of paper and whether a form has ...
I do not know whether my hon. Friend heard what I said earlier, but I meant it very sincerely. Mo...
Order. In the brief time for which I have been in the Chair, I have noted that some of the interv...
You will be pleased to know that my speech is very short, Mr Howarth, so I do not have much more ...
Order. I was talking about interventions, not speeches.
If the interventions are long, my speech will be short.
Let me say this to my right hon. Fr...
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I hope that my hon. Friend will forgive me if I do not. I wish to make a bit of progress, but I w...
My hon. and right hon. Friends have tabled several new clauses, but we have a remarkable range of...
The right hon. Gentleman, for whom I have a huge amount of respect, is making a very good point a...
I gently say to the hon. Gentleman, with whom I have worked in the past, and who I hold in some r...
It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland (Mr Carmichael), althoug...
I do wish that the hon. Gentleman would not rewrite history. I have some lovely quotes here. The ...
I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, but those were selective quotes, taken out of context...
Is my hon. Friend honestly saying that the good people of Colchester sat in a variety of places w...
I think my right hon. Friend underestimates the intelligence of the people of Colchester.
I...
It is as pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth. I should like to speak to new cla...
Does the hon. Lady imagine that there would be no court cases about whether such quarterly report...
First, it is not clear that such cases would get leave of hearing. Secondly, any such case would ...
So does the hon. Lady think that the Government would satisfy the conditions of her new clause if...
As the Chairman of the Select Committee said earlier, when we got into a discussion about the req...
Given the quality of your Front Bench.
Let me tell the right hon. Lady about the views that were expressed in my constituency, even thou...
The vast majority of the amendments—I think I counted 30—tabled by members of the Opposition basi...
Had the hon. Gentleman been in his place to hear the fantastic speech by my hon. Friend the Membe...
The net effect of the hon. Lady’s new clause is that the High Court, not Parliament, would decide...
Look, I am sorry that Government Members feel so bad about losing the Supreme Court case last mon...
The hon. Lady refers to guaranteeing the rights of EU citizens, and my hon. Friend the Member for...
I have not thought about that in as much detail as the hon. Gentleman, but it will be interesting...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bishop Auckland (Helen Goodman), who expressed her...
My hon. Friend asks whether the Bill is the right place for such a proposal. Should it be that we...
I think my hon. Friend knows my view, so I will not dwell on that.
As I looked through the ...
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, by triggering article 50, we will simply give the EU27 all th...
The hon. Gentleman would not get a top mark in negotiation analysis at Harvard Business School. T...
I support the new clauses and amendments tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for North East Fife ...
Did the Government leaflet, at great cost, not exactly make the point that single market membersh...
Many things were said, which is my point. Some might argue that being in the EEA or a member of E...
Order. I am anxious to get in as many of the people who have sat throughout the debate as possibl...
I wish to start by reading something from a letter I have received from a constituent. He talks a...
I understand what my hon. Friend is saying about her constituency surgeries. I have had a similar...
I agree with that, and I have also heard from constituents of mine who are British citizens now l...
I agree with my hon. Friend, but my question to her is: can she cast any thought on why the Chanc...
I have no idea why this is happening, but I am saying, as an important point to the Chancellor of...
Does my hon. Friend not agree that the Prime Minister as given her word that this will be a prior...
I thank my hon. Friend for that. Like her, I do trust the Prime Minister, and that is why I have ...
I shall make a short, pointed speech, because a lot of other Members have been present throughout...
I rise to speak to new clause 56, which was tabled in my name and the names of right hon. and hon...
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is at best unfortunate that his Front Bench team has not us...
I have a lot of respect for how the right hon. Lady has conducted herself during the debate, but ...
I have made it clear that I very much hope the Government will see good sense, as is the case in ...
That is terribly disappointing.
As members of the single market and customs union, we are p...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I am sorry, but I have given way already, and I am really conscious that others want to contribut...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will not give way. I want to draw my remarks to a conclusion so that other Members can come in....
I very much support the amendments that are designed to increase parliamentary scrutiny and I hav...
I will not give way, because there is no time.
Many in the EU want us to conclude the divor...
I call Jim Shannon. Before he starts, may I say that there is one more Member to be accommodated ...
I must start by thanking the Government for keeping the promise in the referendum. The Government...
No, I will not give way.
With that in mind, it is clear that we wish to see the Bill make p...
I will keep my comments brief as I am aware of the shortage of time. I was for remain in the refe...
This short Bill has attracted a large number of new clauses that fall into a number of broad cate...
Will the Minister tell us whether reassuring EU nationals is unnecessary?
I will come to EU nationals later. As I explained a moment ago, I am currently dealing with the i...
I am pleased that the Minister understands that parliamentary scrutiny is essential, but we have ...
I understand the hon. Lady’s point. However, it is not the case that everything will, as she puts...
Does the Minister agree that the final deal should in fact be scrutinised by the British people, ...
The British people have had their say very clearly: they have instructed this Parliament that the...
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, because I know there are a lot of issues to be cove...
Clearly, we require, and we are looking to achieve, close co-operation with the European Union on...
Will the Minister give way?
No, I will not give way, because I have little time.
The Secretary of State announced in th...
I am following the Minister’s speech carefully. Does he agree that it is a mistake to put the pro...
The hon. Gentleman makes an extremely important point. If these provisions were put into the Bill...
Would the Minister acknowledge that there is at least a possibility that a new trade agreement wi...
I can go no further than what I have already said. Of course, transitional arrangements require b...
I will not give way, I am afraid—I have very little time.
While these amendments call for d...
I will not give way because I have little time.
As the Prime Minister told the House this a...
I will not give way any further.
This is less an issue of principle than of timing, with a ...
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
I will take no further interventions; I am sorry. Only after the Bill has become law can my right...
I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend, who is doing a fantastic job in this position on...
My hon. Friend makes an important point.
Bear with me. This will be a matter for negotiation in due course, but ultimately we must all be ...
I will give way in a moment. I can tell the House that I have discussed the matter on numerous oc...
I thank the Minister for finally giving way. I want to talk about my constituent Mr Joerg Nueter,...
We owe the primary responsibility to our citizens in EU countries, but we also owe a duty to EU n...
I will be very brief. I am pleased that the Minister has recognised the thoughtfulness of new cla...
On a point of order, Ms Engel. I seek your guidance on how right hon. and hon. Members can divide...
Before I answer the hon. Gentleman’s point of order, I should say that any further points of orde...
On that note, unless there are any new points of order, I think that we should move on. It is imp...
Further to that point of order, Ms Engel. I am grateful to you. I do not think that any hon. Memb...
That is not a point of order. It is very close to challenging the decision of the Chair.
I am happy to take the right hon. Gentleman’s point of order, but the next group is on devolved l...
There is no challenge to the Chair in any of these points of order. Hon. Members are entitled to ...
Order. This is not about the programme motion on which the House voted. That was not a decision t...
Further to that point of order, Ms Engel. I simply seek clarification of something you said a few...
It may be, but it is not necessarily the case. For this group, we decided that only the lead amen...
Further to that point of order, Ms Engel. On that last point, we have to answer to our constituen...
I am going to move on. That is not a point of order. This was a decision taken by the Chair. It w...
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
New clause 23—Duty to Consult Sco...
New clause 4, tabled in my name and those of my hon. Friends, requires the Government to consult ...
The hon. Lady talked about voices being heard. Her party’s position on Second Reading was to vote...
I have to say that the hon. Gentleman is incredibly defeatist. We intend to win with our amendmen...
As the hon. Lady will know, the White Paper mentions the Northern Ireland First Minister and Depu...
I had anticipated that intervention from the hon. Gentleman, consistent as he is in raising such ...
If the Government wish to proceed with article 50, and if SNP Members do not wish to proceed with...
I agree that it is difficult. [Laughter.] I do not think it is funny, but it is difficult. Our am...
Is there not a bigger issue here? Many of the areas that have heretofore been the responsibility ...
Of course that is true. That is the spirit in which we tabled the new clause, and we hope it is t...
I have given way a few times already. I shall make a bit of progress, and then I will be happy to...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Is it not the truth that the hon. Lady knows, we know and the whole House knows that the Scottish...
The hon. Gentleman needs to read the new clause a bit more carefully. It is clearly not a wreckin...
I am spoilt for choice, but I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff South and Pe...
My hon. Friend is making a very strong speech. I support the desire of Labour Front Benchers to p...
My hon. Friend is right. I am in danger of reading out my speech before I reach the part in quest...
Will the hon. Lady give way? I want to be helpful.
I want to say more about the issue of Wales. The Government owe it to the people of Wales, Scotla...
I know that the hon. Lady, unlike Conservative Members, will have read the paper that the Scottis...
That intervention would probably be better aimed at the Government Front Bench.
The Governm...
I have given way quite a lot and would like to make a little more progress. Many Members will wan...
The hon. Lady mentions the Good Friday agreement and the commitments in it, but as it was between...
What we are asking for, and what new clause 109 asks for, is certainty. I do not think that that ...
The hon. Lady speaks of veto. She will be aware—she mentioned this earlier in her speech—that the...
I am not going to take it personally that the hon. Gentleman was not listening carefully to the b...
I understand the gentleness with which my hon. Friend is responding to the various interventions,...
I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention.
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I will give way, but only because I cannot find my place in my speech. This is the last intervent...
I am delighted to be able to afford the hon. Lady time to find her place. Should she not think ab...
I am afraid that the right hon. Gentleman is going to have to put his misgivings about the Scotti...
I am grateful to you for calling me to speak, Ms Engel. I can see that Members are looking forwar...
Did my right hon. Friend also notice that the Opposition spokesman referred to “embedding” the Sc...
My right hon. Friend has a much greater command of history than I do, but even with my limited re...
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for praying me in aid; he is absolutely right. My real poin...
My right hon. Friend makes that point—[Interruption.]
On a point of order, Ms Engel. Was what the right hon. Member for East Devon (Sir Hugo Swire) jus...
It was not unparliamentary as the First Minister of Scotland is not a Member of this House.
I am conscious that I have taken interventions from the Government Benches but not from the Oppos...
May I provide an example? Policing in Scotland is devolved to the Scottish Parliament, and polici...
I have no issue with the Government seeking to reach a consensus. There are two issues. One, as I...
While the right hon. Gentleman is talking about distinctions, I want to make another distinction ...
While the Scottish nationalists are currently in government in Scotland, I completely agree that ...
Does the right hon. Gentleman not understand how serious this issue is? Does he not understand th...
I have not been intolerant to anyone. I have taken interventions from both sides of the House, an...
Let me make some progress, because otherwise other Members will not have the opportunity to speak...
It is people who were normally resident in Scotland before they moved abroad. It is quite simple....
“Scottish nationals” implies that they are somehow tied to Scotland other than by residence. If s...
But the hon. Gentleman just said that his definition of a Scottish national is someone who reside...
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman one more time.
I say gently to the right hon. Gentleman that his Government’s pushing through the programme moti...
I will not address that issue now, as we debated it at length with the previous group of amendmen...
Does the right hon. Gentleman not understand that, in presenting this proposal to the UK Governme...
I hope the hon. Gentleman will forgive me—and I am sure my colleagues on the Government Benches w...
Perhaps I can help the right hon. Gentleman to understand where Scottish National party Members a...
I would not. The leader of the Conservatives in Scotland—I am pleased to say that she is the Lead...
I have taken the hon. and learned Lady’s intervention and I will now make some progress.
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
My right hon. Friend might not have had the chance to follow the Scottish independence referendum...
As ever, my right hon. Friend hits the nail on the head.
Let me move relatively briefly thr...
When the right hon. Gentleman turns to the issues affecting Northern Ireland, will he take the op...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for elucidating that for the House. Indeed, I detected from t...
As the hon. Lady tabled the new clause, I will of course give way to her.
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. I look forward to discussing this matter further...
That is a helpful intervention, because the hon. Lady has tempted me to say a little more about h...
Yes, them, along with Members of the National Assembly of Wales and of the Northern Ireland Assem...
Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will agree that it is vital to have the regions of England invol...
To be honest, I thought there was quite a lot of national conversation last year. When I talked t...
My right hon. Friend just ran through that list; does he agree that the people who were told that...
My hon. Friend put that well. The new clause would not involve members of the public at all; it w...
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
No, I shall not give way to the hon. Lady again. I gave way to her twice, and we can look forward...
On a point of order, Ms Engel. The right hon. Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper) has been spea...
As the hon. Gentleman is aware, there are no time limits at this stage of a Bill. There is a limi...
I have taken interventions from colleagues on both sides of the House, just as I did in the previ...
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. He will recall that, even in his own remarks, he...
The hon. Gentleman may be guilty of jumping quite a lot of steps in advance. There is no evidence...
I will take one more intervention from the hon. Gentleman and then I will make some progress.
...Does the right hon. Gentleman not recognise that the key wording in new clause 150 comes from the...
Again, I come back to what the hon. Gentleman just said about how the English people voted. If he...
I have one more new clause to talk to and then I will sit down.
New clause 109 talks about ...
I am very disappointed to hear that the right hon. Gentleman is coming to the end of his contribu...
Based on the Twitter trolling that I receive, I suspect that most people contacting the hon. Lady...
Order. We really must get back to the group of amendments.
I have been tempted to speak for longer than I had intended.
I hope that, after running thr...
I will speak to the amendments tabled in my name and in the names of my hon. and right hon. Frien...
I am going to do something that I have never done before—quote an extract from The Daily Telegrap...
Interestingly, if hon. Members turn to page 17 of the so-called White Paper, they will see a chan...
On that basis, is my hon. Friend surprised that the UK Government now seem willing to seek separa...
I will come to that issue in a moment.
The Scottish National party’s compromise amendments ...
In retrospect, does the hon. Lady regret the SNP’s peddling of the myth during the Brexit campaig...
The only myths in the independence referendum in Scotland were those peddled by the right hon. Ge...
Could the hon. Lady clarify whether new clause 26 would effectively give the First Minister of Sc...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, whose interventions are always astute. I refer him to the wo...
I hope my hon. Friend will press all these provisions to a vote, because everyone here loves troo...
As usual, my hon. Friend makes very salient comments, although I suspect they will fall on deaf e...
The hon. Lady talks about the Prime Minister respecting a decision. Will the hon. Lady respect th...
The hon. Gentleman has already made that intervention and was given an answer. Is it his position...
No, the hon. Gentleman has had more than enough time.
I am not taking any more interventions. I have answered the hon. Gentleman’s question.
We a...
The hon. Lady is making a very passionate speech, but clearly if the pound devalues, that is very...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, as ever, for his recognition of a passionate speech, althoug...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I am not going to give way just now, if the right hon. Gentleman does not mind.
In relation...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I am not going to give way just now; allow me a few minutes to make some progress.
This mor...
I have been listening very carefully to the points that the hon. Lady made with regard to Norther...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for making that point, which I understand. However, I would a...
The hon. Lady referred earlier to the impact of the pound being devalued. Could she tell us which...
As my colleagues are saying from a sedentary position, the right hon. Gentleman does not believe ...
I support the remarks of my right hon. Friend the Member for Forest of Dean (Mr Harper). I though...
May I assure the right hon. Gentleman that if he were minded to bring forward any amendments deal...
I have not done so, because I agree with my right hon. Friend the Member for Forest of Dean and G...
If we take the referendum as a national, UK-wide referendum, we will of course take into account ...
Order. I am sorry to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman. The conventions are absolutely clear: th...
I am very grateful to you, Sir Roger. I was trying to deal with the previous intervention. As a c...
The right hon. Gentleman has indicted the Labour party and the SNP for not, in this group of amen...
I am well aware of that, and I am well aware that we have different arrangements around the count...
We must reflect on what we were told in 2014, and that is that we were asked to lead the Union. I...
Some of the SNP Members do protest too much. I seem to remember that they actively fought two ref...
On a point of order, Sir Roger. I keep hearing the right hon. Gentleman talking about the “Scotti...
The hon. Gentleman will understand that that is not a point of order for the Chair.
I am delighted that another advert has been given for the Scottish National party. We understand ...
The memory of the right hon. Gentleman serving as the governor-general of Wales is treasured beca...
Yes, the United Kingdom, through this Parliament, has decided that there will be differential arr...
The hon. Gentleman says it is now, but we are still in the EU, and that is the position we are ab...
Does my right hon. Friend believe, like me, that the SNP will join in the discussion if, on exiti...
I suspect that that is exactly right. I look forward to the day when the SNP accepts the verdict ...
Will the right hon. Gentleman therefore join me and my colleagues in demanding that powers that m...
It is not my job as an English MP to make that case, but I am glad that at last the SNP is making...
Does my right hon. Friend share my puzzlement that the SNP is not welcoming back control over thi...
Fishing is a prime example of a deeply damaging policy pursued over 45 years during our term in t...
The right hon. Gentleman will remember the famous civil service memo when Britain was negotiating...
Because the British people have advised the British Government to be much more sensible on the wa...
I speak as the son and grandson of fish merchants, and I should point out that it was the Scottis...
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for making a powerful point and for making the Committee ev...
I rise to speak to new clause 109, tabled in my name and those of my right hon. and hon. Friends....
May I ask the hon. Gentleman a question about new clause 109? He is asking Her Majesty’s Governme...
I think it important to bear in mind the uncertainty that has been caused by the vote to leave th...
Does my hon. Friend agree that it would be very appropriate if the Minister tonight confirmed tha...
I agree entirely and pay tribute to my right hon. Friend for the valuable and important work she ...
It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. I congratulate the hon. Member for ...
The hon. Gentleman represents a rural constituency, as do I. Would he like to remind the House of...
The hon. Gentleman has made a point that I shall make later in my speech. We were promised absolu...
I wholeheartedly support new clause 158. It is a shame that my new clause 157 was not selected; i...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, and for his new clause, which we would have been...
Further to the point that my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff South and Penarth (Stephen Dought...
That is a pertinent point, and I am happy that colleagues will support us in the Lobby if we get ...
I, too, will be supporting the hon. Gentleman’s new clause 158 in the Lobby this evening if a vot...
I welcome the hon. Gentleman’s intervention, and I will be supporting the new clause tabled by th...
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the extraordinary attitude taken by the Government and the Pri...
The hon. Gentleman is correct, as always, and I will come to that point later in my speech when I...
Last week, I asked about guarantees about tariffs, specifically that there be no tariffs on Ford ...
The hon. Lady is right to mention the fears about Ford because it is a major employer. I pay trib...
The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Does he agree that the problem with some speeches fr...
I completely agree. That is why new clause 162 is important in that wider debate. Government Memb...
In all the hon. Gentleman’s remarks, he skates over the fact that it was a referendum of the Unit...
I am not questioning the referendum result. I am trying to work out what happens next in the inte...
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the likely rejection of his amendment by Government Members, a...
I agree exactly with the hon. Gentleman, but I would go further. My great fear is that Brexit wil...
I hear what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but does he agree that what we need more than anything ...
I fully agree with the hon. Gentleman. The amendments tabled by the SNP, Plaid Cymru and Labour e...
I have listened to the debate with interest, but I had not intended to contribute, so I will be b...
My hon. Friend the Member for Rutherglen and Hamilton West (Margaret Ferrier) just predicted exac...
I like having a helpful intervention, which gives me another chance to remind the Committee that ...
The right hon. Gentleman used the term “shedloads”. Will he tell the House how much “shedloads” i...
The latest figure I saw was about £10 billion, so significant funds from the EU pass through the ...
Does the right hon. Gentleman understand or accept that direct negotiations would have taken plac...
Yes, I am perfectly happy to accept that. That was in the negotiation before I arrived. I worked ...
Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that a lot of the changes and things that must happen in futu...
I am not sure that the words “looking after Ireland” will be that welcome in a proud independent ...
The real guarantors of the peace process were the people of Ireland when they voted by referendum...
The hon. Gentleman is talking about some extraordinarily challenging and difficult issues, which ...
The right hon. Gentleman has some neck to ask the Social Democratic and Labour party not to make ...
Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that before there are any new bodies or any more reviews, the p...
Yes, and my party and I are fully pledged to doing that. Nobody worked harder to create the princ...
Is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that if article 50 is triggered we will no longer have InterTrad...
I point out to the hon. Gentleman that it was his party that said, “If we are going to go ahead a...
Order. I have no power to impose time limits on Committee stage debates. A lot of Members wish to...
It is a pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Sir Roger, and to follow the hon. Member for F...
We have already spoken about the validity of the devolved Administrations in issues relating to t...
Of course I respect the devolved Administrations. I respect the constituent nations of this count...
I say to the hon. Gentleman before I give way to him that he should calm himself. He jumps up and...
Does the hon. Gentleman not recognise that 62% of people in Scotland voted to remain in Europe? I...
The hon. Gentleman should know that the biggest single market that Scotland is part of is the Uni...
May I tell the hon. Gentleman that I think his memory is faulty on the AV referendum? It was on t...
The right hon. Gentleman likes to talk about the elections to the Scottish Parliament, but we are...
On a point of order, Sir Roger. Immediately preceding the intervention by the right hon. Member f...
Happily, as the right hon. Gentleman knows, that is not a matter for the Chair.
I want to conclude my remarks by saying that it is high time the Labour party respected the fact ...
I am grateful for the chance to speak in this important debate about how we can engage more with ...
Does my hon. Friend agree that the Secretary of State for Brexit said there would be some kind of...
My hon. Friend makes a very important point. Indeed, the lack of engagement with the regions has ...
The Secretary of State actually said that he would get
“the mayors of the north to come and...
My hon. Friend makes a very important point. It comes down to how much the Government are really ...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I will make some progress first.
The national convention would include a wider set of voice...
The hon. Lady says that Members of the European Parliament would sit in the national convention. ...
We need to have a way in which the expertise of our many long-standing Members of the European Pa...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I will make some progress, because we have only a few moments left and other Members wish to spea...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I am afraid that we are running short of time.
People wanted more information and more deba...
Can the hon. Lady clear something up for me? She is proposing a national assembly, the purpose of...
Perhaps I can clear this up. The maximum time is to encourage engagement over the period of the n...
I rise to speak in support of amendment 46, which stands in my name and that of my hon. Friends, ...
I am not going to give way. I am going to—
Order. I ask the hon. and learned Lady to take her seat. I have been very kind in bringing in the...
The purpose of the amendment is to require the Government to do what they said they would do when...
Order. I think that the hon. and learned Lady’s speech has come to an end. Let us now please hear...
Thank you, Mr Hoyle. [Interruption.]
Mr Salmond, you should know better. [Interruption.] Order. One second.
11.45 pm
On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. It is clear that my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Edinbur...
As the occupant of the Chair, I have the right to make decisions in this Committee. [Interruption...
Thank you for your chairing of this debate, Mr Hoyle. [Interruption.]
Calm down, Mr Wishart. This is a very serious matter. It is so serious that I want to hear what t...
This is a hugely important debate. [Interruption.]
Order. Mr Salmond, will you clarify something for me?
Other Members have been making their contributions without any admonition from the Chair.
Order. Tempers are running quite high. We need to calm it down. In fairness, I have been very gen...
I am saying that I am sure that was not the case. I did not accuse you; far from it. Let us now g...
Thank you, Mr Hoyle.
We have heard from all four corners of the United Kingdom. [Interrupti...
On a point of order, Mr Hoyle. I have to say that I have great respect for you as the Chairman, b...
I assumed my place in the Chair, and I have tried to ensure that a second SNP voice was heard, an...
Engaging with the devolved Administrations and discussing their priorities is exactly what the Jo...
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, but I can give way only once.
I am delighted that the Minister has been able to give way. I wonder whether he and other Ministe...
The House voted for a programme motion, and that programme motion has been followed by the Chair....
The Minister opened his remarks by saying that the JMC was not on a statutory footing. That is pr...
Given that we have not reached the moment of interruption, Mr Hoyle, may I move new clauses 23 an...
Unfortunately not.
Question put, That the clause be read a Second time.