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Preventing and Combating Violence Against Women and Domestic Violence (Ratification of Convention) Bill

Debate on bills on Friday, 16 December 2016, in the House of Commons, led by Eilidh Whiteford. The answering member was Brandon Lewis.
Motion that the House sit in private. Negatived on question. Second reading. Closure motion. Agreed to on division (133 to 2). Original question agreed to on division (135 to 2). Bill committed to a Public Bill Committee.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
618 cc1072-1131 
Session
2016-17
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Eilidh Whiteford | 618 cc1072-3 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

The UK signed the Council of Europe...

Tim Loughton | 618 c1073 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Lady on the Bill, which I support. She mentions children. Is she aware th...


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Eilidh Whiteford | 618 cc1073-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that point. Many people are very shocked when they hear t...

Jim Cunningham | 618 c1074 (Link to this contribution)

I support the hon. Lady. She mentions local government. Women’s refuge shelters are under the ham...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 cc1074-5 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a vital point. One reason why it is important that we ratify the convent...

Helen Hayes | 618 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her Bill, which is doing a very important job this morning in this Hous...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely that this is an extremely urgent issue. Nobody can use the excuse of parliamenta...

Andrew Smith | 618 c1075 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, congratulate the hon. Lady on her Bill. This is a vital matter. What does she think is ho...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 cc1075-7 (Link to this contribution)

I have some theories, and I hope to come to those in due course, but at the end of the day a lack...

Patrick Grady | 618 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

I warmly congratulate my hon. Friend on the Bill. Does she agree that it is important that the UK...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend’s point is well made. The shocking statistics from that part of the world remind u...

Philippa Whitford | 618 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

As with other private Member’s Bills, is it not also about the message we send out? The fact that...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. We know that these crimes are terribly under-reported. So...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1077 (Link to this contribution)

We do not have to look as far as Sudan for examples of countries that have not ratified, and do n...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 cc1077-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am really very surprised that the hon. Gentleman thinks we should follow the example of Germany...

Tania Mathias | 618 c1078 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) on securing this very importan...

Philippa Whitford | 618 c1078 (Link to this contribution)

It is recognised that we are more likely to see women from poorer backgrounds captured in the dat...

Tania Mathias | 618 c1080 (Link to this contribution)

I think the data are likely to show that this is happening in every country, every street and in ...

Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 618 c1080 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Yesterday, the Culture Secretary agreed to come back to the Disp...

John Bercow | 618 cc1080-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. The short answer to him is no: I have...

Jess Phillips | 618 c1081 (Link to this contribution)

I want to say a huge thank you to the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) for introdu...

David TC Davies | 618 c1081 (Link to this contribution)

May I also put on record my support for this Bill, and for what the hon. Lady is saying? Does she...

Jess Phillips | 618 cc1081-2 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree. What we tend to do in this building is pave the way with great intentions and g...

Jess Phillips | 618 cc1082-3 (Link to this contribution)

No. That was worth thinking about for a moment, but I am sure the hon. Gentleman is going to get ...

Wendy Morton | 618 cc1083-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to take part in this debate and to follow someone whom I am tempted to call my h...

Owen Thompson | 618 cc1084-7 (Link to this contribution)

I intend to be relatively brief this morning, Mr Deputy Speaker. Let me start by congratulating m...

Philip Davies | 618 c1087 (Link to this contribution)

May I commend the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) for introducing the Bill and fo...

Jess Phillips | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Philip Davies | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

Erm, no! It was worth thinking about for a few seconds. If the hon. Lady comes back to me later, ...

Sarah Champion | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Sarah Champion | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

I really appreciate the hon. Gentleman’s tone and the fact that he recognises the seriousness of ...

Philip Davies | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Lady for highlighting that, and I will come on to that. As she rig...

John Glen | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a characteristically passionate speech, but does he not want to acknowle...

Philip Davies | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to the discrepancy between the levels of violence against men and women in due cou...

Jess Phillips | 618 c1088 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his graciousness—genuinely. When he started speaking, he said that...

Philip Davies | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Lady. Perhaps then we can go back to the drawing board and make it...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will allow me, I will read a bit from the Istanbul convention, to which I a...

Philip Davies | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Lady. As I have said, we can go back to the drawing board and brin...

David Nuttall | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

Although it is true that article 4, which has just been quoted by the promoter of this Bill, says...

Philip Davies | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I will also come on to article 1, which makes it clear that d...

Tania Mathias | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

In view of the fact that the Government have signalled that they will ratify this convention, is ...

Philip Davies | 618 c1089 (Link to this contribution)

I am against ratifying it, and I am trying to set out my reasons for my view. I want the Governme...

Helen Whately | 618 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend arguing that there is no point in doing something that is a good thing, unless ...

Philip Davies | 618 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

If my hon. Friend is happy for a convention to make it explicitly clear that it is fine to discri...

Catherine West | 618 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is aware that two women a week are killed. I do not know whethe...

Philip Davies | 618 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

There are also funerals of men who have died. I am sure that that is just as uncomfortable an exp...

Mark Durkan | 618 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

When the hon. Gentleman gives that crime statistic, is he trying to say that all those men have b...

Philip Davies | 618 c1090 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is going down an interesting route, as he is basically saying that, no matter ...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1091 (Link to this contribution)

In the preamble to the convention there is a reference to the Geneva convention of 1949, which is...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1091-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a perfectly valid point. If we follow the logic of today’s debate, the Genev...

Seema Malhotra | 618 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has helpfully laid out the objectives of the Istanbul convention. Can he expla...

Philip Davies | 618 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

My hope is that, by the time I have finished speaking, the hon. Lady will be much wiser about why...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1093 (Link to this contribution)

May I suggest one answer to the hon. Lady’s intervention? Our legislation in this country has a m...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1093-4 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my hon. Friend is absolutely right, and he makes a good point. As I made clear, our definiti...

David Nuttall | 618 c1094 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a very valid point. Does he not feel that there may be some correlation ...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1094-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is not rocket science: the more criminals who are in pri...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1096 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has been referring to statistics from the United Kingdom. He may be aware of the E...

Philip Davies | 618 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for alerting me to that fact, of which I was unaware. I was just ...

Greg Knight | 618 c1097 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend clarify something? Is he saying that if this Bill were gender-neutral, he wou...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1097-9 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am very much saying that—that is the thrust of my point. I absolutely would support the Bi...

David Nuttall | 618 c1098 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for putting that on the record. I think it worth also noting that...

Philip Davies | 618 c1098 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right to highlight the subjects of those articles. I was probably remiss of me ...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1098 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend expand on the link between article 44 and article 77, under which a party rat...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1098-1103 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point, but I am not sure that I can do as he asks, because this is a ...

Gavin Newlands | 618 c1103 (Link to this contribution)

That’s because you keep talking.

Philip Davies | 618 cc1103-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that I am educating the hon. Gentleman, because he certainly knew nothing about article...

Lindsay Hoyle | 618 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman has said that he wants other Members to be able to get in, and I hope h...

Philip Davies | 618 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that, Mr Deputy Speaker, but there are certain things that I say that nobody else ca...

Lindsay Hoyle | 618 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I may be able to help the hon. Gentleman, because who knows what people are going to say? ...

Philip Davies | 618 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I take that point on board. I assure you that others will not, not ...

Philip Davies | 618 c1104 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to think that the Minister has been suitably embarrassed about setting out the Gover...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1105-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Minister will get the chance to do so.

It is worth noting that the Equality a...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1106 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my view that such a threat of interference is one reason why the German...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1106-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend may well be right. I am loth to speak up for the German Government—I do not know w...

Christopher Chope | 618 c1107 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend says that he is against the Bill, but at least we have a Bill. If it had not been ...

Philip Davies | 618 cc1107-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. As I did at the start, I congratulate the hon. Member for Ban...

Thangam Debbonaire | 618 c1108 (Link to this contribution)

That is 78 minutes that I will never get back.

Lindsay Hoyle | 618 c1108 (Link to this contribution)

Let’s get on with the speeches.

Thangam Debbonaire | 618 cc1108-1110 (Link to this contribution)

I have read the convention and I have spent 26 years working on violence against women and domest...

Brandon Lewis | 618 cc1110-1 (Link to this contribution)

First, I congratulate the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) on introducing this Bil...

Brandon Lewis | 618 c1111 (Link to this contribution)

I will happily give way. [Interruption.]

Philip Davies | 618 c1111 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that certain crimes disproportionately affect women and girls. There are more m...

Brandon Lewis | 618 cc1111-4 (Link to this contribution)

First, I would say to Opposition Members that my hon. Friend has every right to contribute to thi...

Brandon Lewis | 618 c1114 (Link to this contribution)

We have considered the Bill carefully, but before I outline that, I happily take the hon. Lady’s ...

Eilidh Whiteford | 618 c1114 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. Does he agree that rape is a particularly serious offence that sho...

Brandon Lewis | 618 c1114 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, a range of areas, including murder, sexual offences against children, forced marriage ...

Seema Malhotra | 618 c1115 (Link to this contribution)

Has the Minister been able to consider any alternative timetable that he might bring to this Hous...

Brandon Lewis | 618 c1115 (Link to this contribution)

I hope my next words will put the hon. Lady’s mind at rest. Both those points and any others Memb...

Sarah Champion | 618 cc1115-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his words and will address them in some detail. I want to start, however...

John Glen | 618 cc1118-1121 (Link to this contribution)

First, I wish to pay tribute to the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) for bringing ...

Michelle Thomson | 618 c1121 (Link to this contribution)

I aim to be fairly brief today. I commend and thank my hon. Friend the Member for Banff and Bucha...

Roger Mullin | 618 c1121 (Link to this contribution)

I am undeserving of any praise, but I want to say that the hon. Lady inspired my wife, three days...

Michelle Thomson | 618 cc1121-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman very much for that. But, of course, I made my position very clear: it ...

Rebecca Harris | 618 cc1122-4 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, thank the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) and congratulate her on introdu...

Margaret Greenwood | 618 cc1124-5 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) on introducing this tremendous...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 618 c1125 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady has raised a crucial point about people controlling finances. Members who support t...

Margaret Greenwood | 618 cc1125-6 (Link to this contribution)

That is indeed an important issue.

It can be much more difficult for those who are disabled...

Mike Freer | 618 cc1126-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) for promoting this private Member’s B...

Gavin Newlands | 618 c1127 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to be able to contribute to this debate on the ratification of ...

Drew Hendry | 618 c1128 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend the Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) talked about women’s refuge service...

Gavin Newlands | 618 c1128 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I could not agree more with my hon. Friend. We have heard many instances of the suppo...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 618 c1128 (Link to this contribution)

As we are approaching the Christmas period, will my hon. Friend recognise that it is at Christmas...

Gavin Newlands | 618 c1128 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely; my hon. Friend makes a fantastic point. Before Christmas last year, I highlighted the...

Geraint Davies | 618 c1128 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening intently to the hon. Gentleman’s excellent speech. Does he agree that the key prob...

Gavin Newlands | 618 c1129 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman was addressing that point to the...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 618 c1129 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman and the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Dr Whiteford) on brin...

Gavin Newlands | 618 cc1129-1130 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. That is a shameful story. The important thing about the Bill is that it f...

Helen Whately | 618 cc1130-1 (Link to this contribution)

Before I became a Member of Parliament one thing I did as a volunteer was work in a homeless outr...

Hannah Bardell | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady talks about scale. I have to say that since being elected I have been very shocked ...

Helen Whately | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, and I will be supporting the Bill. On the importance ...

Mike Weir | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36).

Question put forthwith, That the Quest...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

We now—[Interruption.] Order. There is absolutely no need to clap. There might be a need for Memb...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

May I say how delighted I am to see Members waving their Order Papers instead of putting their ha...

Peter Bone | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I have a unique procedural point—certainly I have neve...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 618 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I fully understand the point that the hon. Gentleman is making. In fact, it might possibly ...

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