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Technical and Further Education Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 14 November 2016, in the House of Commons, led by Justine Greening and Robert Halfon. The answering members were Gordon Marsden and Angela Rayner.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion agreed to on question. Queen's Recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to on question. Ways and Means resolution agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
617 cc40-99 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Technical and Further Education Bill 2016-17
Thursday, 27 October 2016
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Justine Greening | 617 c41 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

The background to the Bill is that ...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c41 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State will know that we are failing nationally to train enough graduate engineer...


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Justine Greening | 617 c41 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that we are. Not only have we seen investment in more effective mathematics teaching—th...

Tristram Hunt | 617 c41 (Link to this contribution)

Do the Government still want young people who do not achieve a C or above in maths and English to...

Justine Greening | 617 c41 (Link to this contribution)

We have been clear that we do not want children to be left behind by not getting a GCSE in maths ...

Justine Greening | 617 c42 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a little more progress. I will definitely let the hon. Gentleman intervene but, as he...

Nicholas Dakin | 617 c42 (Link to this contribution)

I think that everyone applauds the direction of travel for technical education. In response to th...

Justine Greening | 617 c42 (Link to this contribution)

What we are saying is that we want an education system, particularly at the primary and secondary...

Lucy Powell | 617 c42 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State is being generous with her time. There is still quite a lot of confusion a...

Justine Greening | 617 cc42-3 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, a level 4 broadly equates to a C grade. We will make sure that the resit policy aligns...

James Berry | 617 c43 (Link to this contribution)

Is collaboration between local institutions part of the process? Will my right hon. Friend commen...

Justine Greening | 617 c43 (Link to this contribution)

That work shows that colleges acting collectively can provide not only a higher-quality offer, bu...

Peter Kyle | 617 c43 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that the Secretary of State is determined to ensure that enough students and other young...

Justine Greening | 617 cc43-4 (Link to this contribution)

We do want to ensure that students complete their apprenticeships. As the hon. Gentleman will kno...

Lucy Powell | 617 c44 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for her generosity. I welcome the fact that further education fund...

Justine Greening | 617 c44 (Link to this contribution)

I do not accept the picture that the hon. Lady presents. In the long term, our technical educatio...

Mike Freer | 617 c45 (Link to this contribution)

What steps are being taken to address the continuing gender imbalance in our apprenticeships?

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Justine Greening | 617 c45 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend raises an important point. We want to make sure that young girls get exactly the s...

Justine Greening | 617 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to make a little more progress. I recognise the hon. Gentleman’s long-standing inter...

Rob Marris | 617 c45 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady may well know that those of us who have worked in factories and in similar jo...

Justine Greening | 617 cc45-7 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman knows, the Government have talked significantly about our plans to make sur...

Angela Rayner | 617 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I start by associating myself with the well-wishes for the hon. Member for Grantham and Stamford ...

Rob Marris | 617 c47 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my bemusement at the Secretary of State standing before the House this ...

Angela Rayner | 617 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree that this Government have done nothing to provide technical skills. Colleges h...

James Berry | 617 c48 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is listing a litany of failures, but would she like to take this opportunity to wel...

Angela Rayner | 617 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to that, because although I welcome some of the Government’s proposals on the Inst...

Angela Rayner | 617 cc48-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will make progress and let the hon. Gentleman in again later. Even then, the Government did not...

Tristram Hunt | 617 c49 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend also aware that the Minister for School Standards, having said at the Dispatch ...

Angela Rayner | 617 c49 (Link to this contribution)

I will be interested to see what the Secretary of State has to say about that. I find it absolute...

Angela Rayner | 617 cc49-50 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely shocking. We have seen the Skills Funding Agency lose nearly half of its staff since 2...

James Berry | 617 c50 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady could at least welcome the apprenticeship levy, which her party considered so radic...

Angela Rayner | 617 c50 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to take an intervention from the hon. Gentleman. I will come on to that p...

Justin Tomlinson | 617 cc50-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to contribute to this debate. I very much welcome the Bill and pay tribute to th...

Karin Smyth | 617 c51 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that as well as talking to young people about the time at which the...

Justin Tomlinson | 617 cc51-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for making that important point. When we talk to the heads of UTCs, they sa...

Tristram Hunt | 617 c53 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for North Swindon (Justin Tomlinson).

I do...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c53 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentioned Brexit. Since the referendum, the pound has depreciated to a much more s...

Tristram Hunt | 617 c53 (Link to this contribution)

I knew I would not get away with my Brexit comment with my hon. Friend sitting there. Yes, we nee...

Tristram Hunt | 617 cc53-6 (Link to this contribution)

But we are not going to go down that road too quickly.

I welcome large parts of the Bill. I...

Charlie Elphicke | 617 cc56-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate. I am going to talk about the local experience of furthe...

Lucy Powell | 617 cc57-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Dover (Charlie Elphicke). It is a rare treat for u...

Peter Kyle | 617 c58 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentioned joint pathways being undertaken by the same further education institutio...

Lucy Powell | 617 c58 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that excellent intervention. It sounds like just the sort of instituti...

Rob Marris | 617 c59 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. We need to think about technical education not just for...

Lucy Powell | 617 cc59-60 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a great point, although I do not want to get into the relative ages of Membe...

Karin Smyth | 617 cc60-2 (Link to this contribution)

For too long, technical and vocational education has been seen as the poor relation to academic e...

Nicholas Dakin | 617 cc62-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great privilege to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol South (Karin Smyth), who ...

Peter Kyle | 617 c64 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Scunthorpe (Nic Dakin), who shared with ...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c64 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a strong point. Some years ago, funding for adult education at sixth-for...

Peter Kyle | 617 cc64-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point.

This door being slammed shut, often in the faces of youn...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c67 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to speak in the debate and to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Hove (P...

Rob Marris | 617 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that part of the problem with mathematics is down to English culture? I...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 cc67-8 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend, but it is changing and I am optimistic about that. People such as me...

Rob Marris | 617 c68 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend recall the reorganisation of Government Departments in about 2007—sadly under...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 cc68-9 (Link to this contribution)

There is another story, which may not be true, about what happened when incorporation was introdu...

Simon Hoare | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point about people’s understanding or experience of the FE ...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. gentleman for his intervention, but I think the majority of Members, probably on...

Karin Smyth | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend about this. I went to an FE college to do my A-levels, but what he is...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend about that, and of course another cultural factor is the fact that we...

Lucy Powell | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some good points. I did an A-level in not just maths, but further maths....

Lucy Powell | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I did not do very well in the further maths.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The House is going to defend the hon. Lady. We have heard hon. Gentlemen say that this is ...

Lucy Powell | 617 c69 (Link to this contribution)

I find myself feeling how I did during my A-levels, when I was the only girl in the class doing s...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c70 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right about that. One of the most interesting things about Britain i...

Oliver Dowden | 617 c70 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman mentions teaching, and I have been waiting patiently for him to refer to his o...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 cc70-1 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. In my day, it was certainly an excellent college and we did our very best.

I keep d...

David Rutley | 617 cc71-2 (Link to this contribution)

I must declare that I, too, am a comprehensive-educated special adviser from a long time ago, whi...

Lucy Powell | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

There is nobody behind him, though!

David Rutley | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Let us move on—[Interruption.]

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We cannot have sedentary remarks and remarks from behind the Chair. That is simply impossi...

David Rutley | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Lucy Powell | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker. I want to put it on the record that it was I who was speaking ...

Robert Halfon | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

May I make a quick point? As the debate has highlighted today, it is quality, not quantity, that ...

David Rutley | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed.

The Bill is timely. After strenuous efforts to stabilise the economy following the ...

Kelvin Hopkins | 617 c72 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right to focus on our poor productivity level, but poor productivity often ...

David Rutley | 617 cc72-4 (Link to this contribution)

The Government have already put in place improvements to the national living wage and will do mor...

Rob Marris | 617 c73 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is extolling the party for the workers, so does he agree that workers and work...

David Rutley | 617 c73 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. The Prime Minister has already talked about how we...

Gordon Marsden | 617 cc73-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank everyone who has spoken today. We have had a thoughtful, productive and constructive deba...

Jo Churchill | 617 c76 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Gordon Marsden | 617 cc76-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I will not because I am short of time. [Interruption.] I am sorry, but it was in...

Robert Halfon | 617 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the thoughtful contributions to the debate from Members on both sides of the House.

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Robert Halfon | 617 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I ask the hon. Gentleman to hold on one second, because he said that he wanted resources for math...

Robert Halfon | 617 cc78-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way because of the shortage of time.

A number of hon. Members mentioned the...

Robert Halfon | 617 c79 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but we have very little time.

Rob Marris | 617 c79 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. The Order Paper I have says that this debate can conti...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 617 c79 (Link to this contribution)

No, indeed. The hon. Gentleman is technically absolutely correct that the debate can continue unt...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 617 c79 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Hunt is excited at the prospect of another three hours from the Minister, but it is incumbent ...

Robert Halfon | 617 cc79-80 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman and other Opposition Members talked about quality, not quantity. They should p...

Jo Churchill | 617 c80 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way for a brief intervention?

Robert Halfon | 617 cc80-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sorry, but I cannot because of time, even to my hon. Friend. I apologise.

Let me ...

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