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Criminal Finances Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 25 October 2016, in the House of Commons, led by Ben Wallace. The answering member was Diane Abbott.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on consideration, up to and including third reading and on Lords amendments, agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution, agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
616 cc192-244 
Session
2016-17
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Criminal Finances Bill 2016-17
Thursday, 13 October 2016
Bills
House of Commons
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0818
Wednesday, 9 November 2016
Deposited papers
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Ben Wallace | 616 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

First, may I, through you, Madam De...

Gavin Robinson | 616 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with that comment from the former Prime Minister and with the thrust of the Bill...


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Ben Wallace | 616 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that point. The Bill does extend some of the offences and powers i...

Ben Wallace | 616 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress and Members will doubtless be able to make their points throughout the ...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the Minister for giving way. I agree with the content of his remarks, ...

Ben Wallace | 616 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I absolutely agree that transparency is one of the steps along the path of tackling both cor...

Liz Saville Roberts | 616 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Prosecuting corporations for failing to prevent economic crimes was expected to be a core part of...

Ben Wallace | 616 c196 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but I will come to that part of the Bill later on. It is certainly our intention to prosecut...

Keith Vaz | 616 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister on his appointment to the Home Office.

In evidence to Parliamen...

Ben Wallace | 616 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for his intervention and for his kind comments about my...

Keith Vaz | 616 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his very full answer, but the real problem is that the system is old. Th...

Ben Wallace | 616 c196 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that 381,000 referrals is a hefty amount to get thro...

Alistair Carmichael | 616 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. He is being exceptionally generous.

Does that example ...

Ben Wallace | 616 c197 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I can assure the right hon. Gentleman that that will happen throughout the passage of the Bi...

Charlie Elphicke | 616 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome my hon. Friend to his place as Security Minister. His appointment is much deserved.

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Ben Wallace | 616 cc197-200 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right that, in the past, it has been a challenge. Crafty hoods have been very g...

Robert Jenrick | 616 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Although I support the Bill, does the Minister agree that there is no point in legislating if the...

Ben Wallace | 616 cc198-201 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. In the past few months, I have visited regi...

Charlie Elphicke | 616 c201 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way again; he is being incredibly generous. As he says, this is...

Ben Wallace | 616 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

There are several parts to this. The NCA has absolutely got the bit between its teeth, and I see ...

Diane Abbott | 616 cc202-3 (Link to this contribution)

If someone walks around the most expensive neighbourhoods of London—Knightsbridge and South Kensi...

Keith Vaz | 616 c203 (Link to this contribution)

The issue of resources was raised by the hon. Member for Newark (Robert Jenrick). Despite the eff...

Diane Abbott | 616 c203 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for that important intervention. If the Minister does not g...

Charlie Elphicke | 616 c203 (Link to this contribution)

As a former tax lawyer, may I point out to the hon. Lady that companies in tax havens own UK prop...

Diane Abbott | 616 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I made a point of saying that there can be legitimates reasons for holding UK property in tax hav...

Keith Vaz | 616 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her kind comments about the Select Committee’s report published in Jul...

Diane Abbott | 616 c204 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right. We need to look at the case of people who serve a prison term that...

Lord Garnier | 616 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I take the point that my neighbour, the right hon. Member for Leicester East (Keith Vaz), makes, ...

Diane Abbott | 616 cc204-6 (Link to this contribution)

Far be it from me to bandy words with the many lawyers in the Chamber. I repeat that as the Bill ...

Lord Garnier | 616 cc206-9 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by declaring an interest. I have been instructed in the past, and I am currently instruct...

Richard Arkless | 616 c209 (Link to this contribution)

Although I accept the directing mind principle, does the right hon. and learned Gentleman agree t...

Lord Garnier | 616 cc209-210 (Link to this contribution)

What the hon. Gentleman says is perfectly true, but I am not sure whether that constitutes accept...

Richard Arkless | 616 cc210-3 (Link to this contribution)

Before I go through my speech, I think I can sum up our position on the Bill very succinctly. The...

Lord Garnier | 616 c212 (Link to this contribution)

As a first step, would the hon. Gentleman encourage the Government to look at the schedule to the...

Richard Arkless | 616 c212 (Link to this contribution)

I have a great deal of sympathy with both of the right hon. and learned Gentleman’s points. I sug...

Ben Wallace | 616 c214 (Link to this contribution)

It is a joy as a non-lawyer to be skewered between two barristers in this place, but may I point ...

Richard Arkless | 616 cc214-5 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the Minister, but my point is that under the Bill, corporate economic crime extends ...

Joanna Cherry | 616 c215 (Link to this contribution)

The OECD estimates that tax havens may be costing developing countries a sum up to three times th...

Richard Arkless | 616 c215 (Link to this contribution)

Unsurprisingly, I agree wholeheartedly with my hon. and learned Friend. I should like the Ministe...

Joanna Cherry | 616 c215 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that there is a precedent? The Government have repeatedly legislated in...

Richard Arkless | 616 cc215-6 (Link to this contribution)

Again unsurprisingly, I agree with my hon. and learned Friend. Where there is a political will, t...

James Berry | 616 cc216-8 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the Bill—not to complain about what is not in it, but to praise the Government ...

Richard Arkless | 616 c217 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening with great interest to what the hon. Gentleman is saying. Does he agree that there...

James Berry | 616 c217 (Link to this contribution)

That is certainly something that could be looked at and consulted on, but the Bill is achieving a...

Mark Tami | 616 c217 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

James Berry | 616 cc217-9 (Link to this contribution)

No.

I hope that this provision will have the same effect that health and safety legislation...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 c219 (Link to this contribution)

This speech represents two firsts: I am the first non-lawyer to speak from the Back Benches; and ...

Jim Cunningham | 616 c219 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my right hon. Friend and previous speakers that, were something done about the overs...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 c219 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with my hon. Friend’s comments.

Mark Tami | 616 c219 (Link to this contribution)

While we support the Bill, does my right hon. Friend agree that the danger is that we might drive...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 c220 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. I would also add that the Brexit provisions might also lead to increased activity through...

Ben Wallace | 616 c220 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to what the right hon. Lady said. Will she not concede that since the l...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 cc220-1 (Link to this contribution)

In my view, and indeed the British Government’s view, publicising those registers of ownership is...

Joanna Cherry | 616 c221 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is, as one would expect, making a very powerful speech. Does she agree that t...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 cc221-2 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, have seen that survey. Any action that the Minister takes will be warmly welcomed by the ...

Ben Wallace | 616 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I can get an exact answer to the right hon. Lady’s question. Just around that, though, we have st...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for providing that information. Will he explain why the orders do n...

Ben Wallace | 616 c222 (Link to this contribution)

That is quite straightforward. We are unable under EU law to discriminate against different membe...

Baroness Hodge of Barking | 616 cc222-4 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to raise two other issues. One arises from a debate held in the House on March 2012, initi...

Nusrat Ghani | 616 cc224-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Barking (Dame Margaret Hodge). I would also ...

Chris Evans | 616 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Wealden (Nusrat Ghani) on a rather succinct speech. There are ...

Chris Evans | 616 cc227-8 (Link to this contribution)

It could be the weather, although I wonder whether the reason is something a little more sinister...

Kirsty Blackman | 616 cc228-9 (Link to this contribution)

I had not been in a debate with the hon. Member for Islwyn (Chris Evans) until this morning, and ...

Roger Mullin | 616 cc229-231 (Link to this contribution)

Many people in the Chamber consider much of the Bill to be praiseworthy. It struck me that all th...

Ben Wallace | 616 c231 (Link to this contribution)

I reassure the hon. Gentleman, given our meeting yesterday, that I have listened to what he said....

Roger Mullin | 616 cc231-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am particularly grateful to the Minister for that clarity. Indeed, in coming to the Dispatch Bo...

Keith Vaz | 616 cc232-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath (Roger Mullin) and liste...

Charlie Elphicke | 616 c235 (Link to this contribution)

May I take up the issue of money laundering and the NCA? When I was a lawyer, one would do an ID ...

Keith Vaz | 616 cc235-6 (Link to this contribution)

I think that, when it comes to the hon. Gentleman, it is probably a case of “once a lawyer, alway...

Lindsay Hoyle | 616 c236 (Link to this contribution)

Order. There is not a shortage of time, but when the right hon. Gentleman says “Finally” I actual...

Keith Vaz | 616 c236 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker, after all these years how can you believe a Member when they say, “Finally”—ho...

Rupa Huq | 616 cc236-8 (Link to this contribution)

This is the first time that I have spoken from the Dispatch Box and I am pleased to find it accom...

Keith Vaz | 616 c237 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend give way?

Keith Vaz | 616 c237 (Link to this contribution)

I can assure my hon. Friend that I would never want to reduce her time. I congratulate her on mak...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 616 c237 (Link to this contribution)

I reassure the hon. Lady that she is quite safe in giving way during a winding-up speech. She has...

Rupa Huq | 616 cc239-240 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and to my right hon. Friend for his intervention. I w...

Brandon Lewis | 616 cc240-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank right hon. and hon. Members for this informed and valuable debate. We have heard strong a...

Mark Field | 616 c241 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise that I was not able to contribute to the debate itself. I am afraid that I am a veter...

Brandon Lewis | 616 cc241-2 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an important point, particularly by outlining the importance of the Bi...

Richard Arkless | 616 c242 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, I am delighted to hear the good news that the Minister has just given. Can he confirm wh...

Brandon Lewis | 616 cc242-3 (Link to this contribution)

As I said just before the hon. Gentleman intervened, we will continue to push for all countries t...

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