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UK's Nuclear Deterrent

Debate on Monday, 18 July 2016, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness May of Maidenhead. The answering member was Jeremy Corbyn.
Motion to support the replacement of the current Vanguard submarines with four Successor submarines. Agreed to on division (472 to 117).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
613 cc558-655 
Session
2016-17
Department
Prime Minister
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 cc559-560 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House supports the Government’s assessment in the 2015 National Se...

Andrew Selous | 613 c560 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that Ukraine would have been less likely to have lost a sizeable ...


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Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c560 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right that there are lessons. Some people suggest to us that we shou...

Lord Walney | 613 c560 (Link to this contribution)

I offer the Prime Minister many congratulations on her election. Will she be reassured that whate...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c561 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the hon. Gentleman for the words that he has just spoken. He is absolutely right. The n...

Caroline Lucas | 613 c561 (Link to this contribution)

I add my congratulations to the right hon. Lady in her new role. If keeping and renewing our nucl...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c561 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not accept that at all. I have to say to the hon. Lady that, sadly, she and some Labour ...

Ian Blackford | 613 c561 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, when SNP Members go through the Lobby tonight, 58 of Scotland’s 59 MPs will be voting ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c561 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say to the hon. Gentleman that that means that 58 of the 59 Scottish Members of Parliam...

Pat McFadden | 613 c561 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Prime Minister for giving way and congratulate her on her appointment. She mentioned ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c562 (Link to this contribution)

I say that it is not a choice. This country needs to recognise that it faces a variety of threats...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c562 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to make a little progress before I take more interventions.

I know that there ...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 613 c562 (Link to this contribution)

May I congratulate the Prime Minister on her surefootedness in bringing this motion before the Ho...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c562 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention and for the support that he and his coll...

Mike Gapes | 613 c562 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the right hon. Lady on becoming Prime Minister. Will she confirm that, when the La...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 cc562-3 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Of course, the last Labour Government held votes in this ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c563 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress. North Korea is the only country in the world to have tested nuc...

Angus Robertson | 613 c564 (Link to this contribution)

Last year, the then Minister for Defence Procurement, the hon. Member for Ludlow (Mr Dunne), said...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c564 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to do so. If the right hon. Gentleman will allow me to finish this section of my speec...

Julian Knight | 613 c564 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the Prime Minister, with her very busy schedule, caught the interview on Radio 5...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c564 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend, and I think he is right to point out that there are Oppos...

Angus Robertson | 613 c564 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Prime Minister for taking a second intervention. I asked her a simple questi...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c564 (Link to this contribution)

I have given the figures for the cost of building the submarines. I am also clear that the in-ser...

Lord Beamish | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

The Prime Minister quite rightly paid tribute to our submariners. Will she also pay tribute to th...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an incredibly important point. Our nuclear defence industry makes a majo...

David Morris | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome my right hon. Friend to her place as Prime Minister. Does she agree with me that, like ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point. Some constituencies—obviously, Morecambe and Lunesda...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the right hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington (Tom Brake), and then I wi...

Tom Brake | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the Prime Minister will come on to explain how a like-for-like replacement for Triden...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to the whole question of nuclear proliferation a little later, if the right hon. G...

Stephen Metcalfe | 613 c565 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Prime Minister confirm for me and the House that the vast majority of the cost involved ...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c566 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is about jobs here in the United Kingdom, and it is also...

Nicholas Dakin | 613 c566 (Link to this contribution)

On the issue of jobs, there is a lot of steel in Successor submarines, so will the Prime Minister...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 cc566-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman might have noticed that the Government have looked at the Government procureme...

Mark Harper | 613 c567 (Link to this contribution)

I was listening carefully to the question from the leader of the Scottish National party about co...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c567 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with my right hon. Friend; he put that very well indeed.

Let me turn...

Alec Shelbrooke | 613 c567 (Link to this contribution)

It is all very well looking at the cost of building and running the submarines, but the cost of i...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c567 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a valid and important point, and this issue must be looked at in the round, ...

Barry Sheerman | 613 c567 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Prime Minister on her appointment. I shall be voting for the motion this eveni...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c567 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to that is yes—we are very clear that we face different threats and need different cap...

George Kerevan | 613 c568 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Prime Minister on her new role, but let us cut to the chase: is she personally...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c568 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. The whole point of a deterrent is that our enemies need to know that we would be prepared to...

Madeleine Moon | 613 c568 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Prime Minister is aware that Russia has 10 times the amount of tactical nuclear wea...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 c568 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is absolutely right. As I pointed out earlier, Russia is also modernising its nucle...

Baroness May of Maidenhead | 613 cc568-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some more progress.

We play a leading role on disarmament verification, ...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 cc569-570 (Link to this contribution)

May I start by welcoming the right hon. Member for Maidenhead (Mrs May) and congratulating her on...

James Cartlidge | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the true cost the one we remember every Remembrance Sunday—the millions of lives we lost i...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

We all remember, on Remembrance Sunday and at other times, those who lost their lives. That is th...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

In the past, the Labour leader’s solution to a domestic security threat was to parley with the Pr...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

Towards the end of her speech, the Prime Minister mentioned the nuclear non-proliferation treaty ...

James Berry | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

How would the right hon. Gentleman persuade my thousands of Korean constituents that it is a good...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, have Korean constituents, as do many others, and we welcome their work and participation ...

Shailesh Vara | 613 c570 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c571 (Link to this contribution)

No.

It is hardly surprising that in May 2009, an intense debate went on in the shadow Cabin...

Jamie Reed | 613 c571 (Link to this contribution)

As Leader of the Opposition, my right hon. Friend will be privy to briefings from the National Se...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 cc571-2 (Link to this contribution)

Britain, too, currently retains the right to first strike, so I would have thought that the best ...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c572 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way.

Indeed, at the last two nuclear non-proliferation treaty five-yearly r...

Neil Coyle | 613 c572 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is speaking about previous party policy. At the shadow Cabinet meeting last ...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c572 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his view. As he well knows, the party decided that it wanted to suppor...

Angela C Smith | 613 c572 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 cc572-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to my hon. Friend in a moment.

Other countries have made serious efforts to bri...

Lord Beamish | 613 c573 (Link to this contribution)

Like me, my right hon. Friend stood in May 2015 on the basis of a party policy which had been agr...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c573 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is well aware of what the policy was. He is also well aware that a policy review i...

Caroline Lucas | 613 c573 (Link to this contribution)

As the right hon. Gentleman will know, a multilateral process is currently taking place at the Un...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 cc573-4 (Link to this contribution)

I think it is a great shame that the Government do not attend those negotiations, and I wish they...

John Bercow | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Mr Shelbrooke, I want you to aspire to the apogee of statesmanship, but shrieking from a s...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

Can the Prime Minister confirm whether the UK will back the proposed...

Alberto Costa | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

We can all agree that nuclear weapons are truly the most repugnant weapons that have ever been in...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

If this is all about controlling them, perhaps we should think for a moment about the obligations...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

I am stunned to hear the argument that has just been made from the Tory Benches that we cannot di...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. We have achieved the chemical weapons convention, a ban o...

Angela C Smith | 613 c574 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is fond of telling us all that the party conference is sovereign when it com...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 cc574-5 (Link to this contribution)

Party policy is also to review our policies. That is why we have reviews.

We also have to l...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

Alright, I will give way—[Interruption.]

John Bercow | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I think the right hon. Gentleman has signalled an intention to take an intervention, but b...

Caroline Flint | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

Under the last Labour Government, because of our stand on supporting non-proliferation, as a nucl...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

We did indeed help to reduce the number of nuclear warheads. Indeed, I attended a number of confe...

Simon Hoare | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way any more, because I am up against the clock.

In case it is not o...

Jamie Reed | 613 c575 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

John Bercow | 613 c576 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for having to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman, but we have a point of order.

Jamie Reed | 613 c576 (Link to this contribution)

I seek your guidance, Mr Speaker, on the accuracy of the language used by the Leader of the Oppos...

John Bercow | 613 c576 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to the hon. Gentleman is that it is up to each right hon. and hon. Member to read the ...

Jeremy Corbyn | 613 c576 (Link to this contribution)

The issue of course is the submarines, but it is also the new weapons that will have to go into t...

John Bercow | 613 c576 (Link to this contribution)

Order. In accordance with usual practice, no time limit on Back-Bench speeches will apply until a...

Julian Lewis | 613 cc576-7 (Link to this contribution)

I have often had the pleasure of debating this topic with the right hon. Member for Islington Nor...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 613 c577 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Julian Lewis | 613 cc577-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am sorry. I normally like to take interventions, but I will not, because of the time pressu...

Angus Robertson | 613 c578 (Link to this contribution)

May I begin by joining the Leader of the Opposition and the Prime Minister in their comments abou...

Simon Hoare | 613 c578 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Angus Robertson | 613 c578 (Link to this contribution)

I will take an intervention from the Prime Minister, unless the hon. Gentleman can give us that n...

Simon Hoare | 613 c580 (Link to this contribution)

I was merely going to ask the right hon. Gentleman what would be the cost at which he would he su...

Angus Robertson | 613 c580 (Link to this contribution)

I will help the hon. Gentleman and his colleagues: there are no circumstances in which we would s...

Carol Monaghan | 613 c580 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Angus Robertson | 613 c580 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me. I was just mentioning my hon. Friend.

Carol Monaghan | 613 c580 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for mentioning my husband who did fire the Trident missile. Not only...

Angus Robertson | 613 cc580-1 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes her point very well.

Still remaining on the consensual side of this im...

Crispin Blunt | 613 c581 (Link to this contribution)

Let me dispose of this part of my speech. The updated figure is now £179 billion —these are the G...

Angus Robertson | 613 c581 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman. That is a very helpful intervention. I am not sure whether those numb...

Emily Thornberry | 613 c582 (Link to this contribution)

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in response to a freedom of information request on the ful...

Angus Robertson | 613 cc582-3 (Link to this contribution)

I suppose we should ask ourselves whether that “safe space” is the House of Commons. We are none ...

Lord Coaker | 613 c583 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Angus Robertson | 613 c583 (Link to this contribution)

I am summing up.

Today, almost every single Scottish MP will vote against renewing Trident ...

Natascha Engel | 613 c583 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I call the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, I remind hon. Members that there...

Crispin Blunt | 613 c583 (Link to this contribution)

Because I suspect that I may be the only person on the Conservative Benches to make the arguments...

Mark Harper | 613 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening carefully to my hon. Friend’s remarks. He said that we have capped defence expendi...

Mark Harper | 613 c584 (Link to this contribution)

I see the Secretary of State for Defence nodding at my remarks.

Crispin Blunt | 613 c584 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is technically right, but it would be a triumph of hope over expectation tha...

Lord Beamish | 613 c584 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman’s figure is now being used widely. I asked the House of Commons Library and va...

Crispin Blunt | 613 cc584-5 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, it is extremely straightforward. It is 6% of 2% of GDP on the basis of the Government’s prop...

Lord Walney | 613 c585 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow that imaginative speech by the hon. Member for Reigate (Crispin Blunt)...

Bob Stewart | 613 c585 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my friend for giving way. A nuclear deterrent also protects our soldiers in the field. Ma...

Lord Walney | 613 cc586-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Those who wish to eradicate nuclear weapons from the Unit...

Lord Benyon | 613 c587 (Link to this contribution)

That was one of the most courageous speeches I have heard during my time in the House.

I am...

Joanna Cherry | 613 c587 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened with great interest to what the hon. Gentleman has said about the situation of nu...

Lord Benyon | 613 c588 (Link to this contribution)

There are many polls that conflict with the information that the hon. and learned Lady provides. ...

Stephen Gethins | 613 c588 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman tell us what role these nuclear weapons played in the catastrophes in Lib...

Lord Benyon | 613 c588 (Link to this contribution)

That was a totally ridiculous intervention, which is not worthy of a reply. The hon. Gentleman mi...

Ian Blackford | 613 c588 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Benyon | 613 cc588-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not take any more interventions.

We have to think through the recent conflicts i...

Ian Blackford | 613 c589 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Brendan O'Hara | 613 c589 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Benyon | 613 c589 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way.

The nature of regimes in a more dangerous world is what we need to...

Toby Perkins | 613 c589 (Link to this contribution)

Until three weeks ago, I anticipated that I would speak in this debate as Labour’s shadow armed f...

Toby Perkins | 613 cc589-590 (Link to this contribution)

That is something else we have in common. I believe that both my parents were members of CND. I d...

Jonathan Reynolds | 613 c591 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his speech. He will have heard, as I have done, the case that...

Toby Perkins | 613 c591 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very important point. In fact, the Government tried to come to precisely that conclusio...

Andrew Murrison | 613 cc591-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the motion, and I do so joylessly and with a heavy heart. Nobody can stand in a...

Richard Graham | 613 c592 (Link to this contribution)

Before my hon. Friend speaks about those two crucial points, does he agree that the speech we hav...

Andrew Murrison | 613 c592 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right, and the speech by the hon. Member for Barrow and Furness (John Woodcock)...

Madeleine Moon | 613 c592 (Link to this contribution)

One lesson from history must be from Nye Bevan, who said as Foreign Secretary that he should not ...

Andrew Murrison | 613 cc592-3 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is right. I am enjoying the consensual nature of this debate—it is the House of Com...

Lord Beamish | 613 cc593-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the motion. There are those who do not agree with my position, including in my ...

Robert Flello | 613 c594 (Link to this contribution)

If time permits, I hope that my hon. Friend will mention an issue that affects a lot of my consti...

Lord Beamish | 613 cc594-5 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is saying that the Labour tradition is to support our armed forces, and I totally ...

Johnny Mercer | 613 c595 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to contribute to the debate.

I ...

Chris Law | 613 c595 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman represents Plymouth. There has been a lot of debate about relocating Trident t...

Johnny Mercer | 613 c596 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely, I would support that move. I would love to have all the jobs that would come with tha...

Andrew Murrison | 613 c596 (Link to this contribution)

I assure my hon. Friend that all of us who represent constituencies in the south-west would be mo...

Johnny Mercer | 613 c596 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. We are proud of our naval heritage in the south-west—we are very proud of the people ...

Brendan O'Hara | 613 c596 (Link to this contribution)

As my right hon. Friend the Member for Moray (Angus Robertson) said earlier, there exists in Scot...

James Cartlidge | 613 c597 (Link to this contribution)

The SNP’s policy is for Scotland to be independent. If Scotland no longer had a nuclear deterrent...

Brendan O'Hara | 613 c597 (Link to this contribution)

As an independent sovereign nation, we would act as every other independent sovereign nation in t...

Margaret Ferrier | 613 c597 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard an awful lot about job losses in my hon. Friend’s constituency. Is that something t...

Brendan O'Hara | 613 cc597-8 (Link to this contribution)

Job losses are a concern wherever they occur and whoever the Member is, but I can say that the SN...

Tom Tugendhat | 613 cc598-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to speak in a debate on one of the most essential issues that the House could d...

Lord Coaker | 613 cc599-600 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Tom Tugendhat). I am proud...

John Nicolson | 613 c600 (Link to this contribution)

Does not the hon. Gentleman accept that the example he cites—the rise of Daesh—shows the sheer ab...

Lord Coaker | 613 c600 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman has asked that question. Having set out the reason for the u...

Brendan O'Hara | 613 c600 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that we do not have a bottomless pit or an inexhaustible supply of ...

Lord Coaker | 613 cc600-1 (Link to this contribution)

That is a legitimate point and we have to make a legitimate choice. I support the Government’s ch...

Joanna Cherry | 613 c601 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving me the opportunity to explain SNP policy. Is he no...

Lord Coaker | 613 c601 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I am aware of it. Is the hon. and learned Lady aware of the fact that NATO has somethin...

Lord Coaker | 613 c601 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot give way anymore.

Jobs are, of course, another crucial aspect. Tens of thousands o...

Bernard Jenkin | 613 cc601-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Gedling (Vernon Coaker), who has made not only a pa...

Bernard Jenkin | 613 c602 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that it was in their manifesto, but what of the bit of hypocrisy highlighted so ably...

Brendan O'Hara | 613 c602 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps, given his in-depth knowledge of Scottish politics, the hon. Gentleman can explain my pre...

Lindsay Hoyle | 613 c602 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I want to fit everyone in, and there are a great many SNP voices to be heard a little late...

Bernard Jenkin | 613 cc602-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will move on to the next point, Mr Deputy Speaker.

My right hon. Friend the Defence Secre...

Alex Chalk | 613 c603 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that the use of huge figures in isolation is at best unhelpful and at w...

Bernard Jenkin | 613 c603 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. The cost of maintaining the nuclear deterrent on a year-on-year basis is...

Joanna Cherry | 613 c603 (Link to this contribution)

Before the hon. Gentleman sits down, would he like to reconsider his comment that we were hypocri...

Bernard Jenkin | 613 c603 (Link to this contribution)

As was explained so ably by the hon. Member for Gedling, if a country is a member of NATO, it is ...

Owen Thompson | 613 cc603-4 (Link to this contribution)

Some of the speeches that we have heard today have given me the feeling that the cold war is stil...

Alberto Costa | 613 c604 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Owen Thompson | 613 c604 (Link to this contribution)

No.

It is absolutely beyond belief that, at a time of national tragedy, the first thing tha...

Alberto Costa | 613 c604 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Owen Thompson | 613 c604 (Link to this contribution)

No. I think we have heard enough from the hon. Gentleman.

We need to think about how we act...

Owen Thompson | 613 cc604-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will not take interventions. I am keen to make my speech as quickly as possible, because a numb...

Edward Leigh | 613 c605 (Link to this contribution)

We have been debating the issue of whether we should have an independent nuclear deterrent for 70...

Julian Lewis | 613 c605 (Link to this contribution)

To support what my hon. Friend has just said, if there had not been many conflicts going on in ot...

Edward Leigh | 613 cc605-6 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I agree with that; I think that is a fact of history that is generally recognised. We h...

Tom Tugendhat | 613 c606 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful speech on the cost, and he is absolutely right of course that...

Edward Leigh | 613 cc606-7 (Link to this contribution)

That is a powerful point, and I am not taking an absolutist position. I know that many Members do...

Roger Godsiff | 613 c607 (Link to this contribution)

May I say at the outset that I was a multilateralist during the cold war? I supported the balance...

Alberto Costa | 613 c607 (Link to this contribution)

Can the hon. Gentleman please explain to the House what precise technical expertise he has to sug...

Roger Godsiff | 613 c607 (Link to this contribution)

The UK leases the missiles from America, where they are made, maintained and tested. Our four sub...

Julian Lewis | 613 c607 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate what the hon. Gentleman is saying, and he is being very reasonable in his approach. ...

Roger Godsiff | 613 c608 (Link to this contribution)

I have debated these issues with the right hon. Gentleman on a number of occasions and I respect ...

Robert Jenrick | 613 c608 (Link to this contribution)

Margaret Thatcher and, I believe, Tony Benn used to say that there are no final victories in poli...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 613 c609 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is a defender of the idea of a nuclear deterrent and the deterrent effect. Doe...

Robert Jenrick | 613 c609 (Link to this contribution)

Today, we are discussing the nuclear deterrent.

We have heard some curious arguments tonigh...

Stephen Pound | 613 c609 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman, like me, will have browsed through the business pages of The S...

Robert Jenrick | 613 cc609-610 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a sensible point. As I understand it, the Secretary of State is committe...

Philippa Whitford | 613 c610 (Link to this contribution)

Surely the poisoning of Litvinenko and the annexation of Crimea happened despite our having nucle...

Robert Jenrick | 613 c610 (Link to this contribution)

The point that I am making is that we cannot predict the future. We only have to look at the even...

Alex Chalk | 613 c610 (Link to this contribution)

On the subject of Russia’s actions, would not the annexation of territory on our continent have b...

Robert Jenrick | 613 c610 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point. The past is a poor predictor of the future. Also, lookin...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 613 c610 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way in the last 10 seconds of his speech. Is he aware of th...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 613 cc610-1 (Link to this contribution)

Order. It will be obvious to the House that a great many people still wish to speak and that ther...

Ronnie Cowan | 613 c611 (Link to this contribution)

When I sit in the House of Commons, I talk to many Members who support Trident. I can tell them t...

Alberto Costa | 613 c611 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ronnie Cowan | 613 cc611-2 (Link to this contribution)

No.

It is a well-rehearsed argument on deterrence that to prevent other nations from striki...

Alberto Costa | 613 c612 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ronnie Cowan | 613 c612 (Link to this contribution)

No.

We are locked in our cold war mentality of maintaining weapons to counter threats that ...

Kevin Foster | 613 c612 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Inverclyde (Ronnie Cowan), even though I di...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 613 c612 (Link to this contribution)

Given that we have heard in the past that it was too dangerous to put the nukes in Devonport, as ...

Kevin Foster | 613 cc612-3 (Link to this contribution)

Before the proposal for independence was rejected in the referendum, there was a debate about whe...

Ian Blackford | 613 c613 (Link to this contribution)

What the SNP wants is to be a member of NATO and for NATO to be nuclear-free. That would be the b...

Kevin Foster | 613 c613 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, because it gives me the opportunity to expose s...

Kevin Foster | 613 cc613-4 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to my hon. Friend, but I will press on, given the time.

Although NATO depends o...

David Lammy | 613 c614 (Link to this contribution)

One of the great traditions of this House is that on matters of conscience, such as that before u...

Stephen Pound | 613 c614 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend and I both believe in a tradition of beating swords into ploughshares and sp...

David Lammy | 613 cc614-5 (Link to this contribution)

I commend that Swedish programme. Like my hon. Friend, I stand here first and foremost as a Chris...

Ben Howlett | 613 cc615-6 (Link to this contribution)

I have ended up following the right hon. Member for Tottenham (Mr Lammy) on several occasions, bu...

Lisa Cameron | 613 c616 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman have any concern for Scotland and does he know how many nuclear warheads ...

Ben Howlett | 613 c616 (Link to this contribution)

I am concerned about not just Scotland, but the rest of the world. Britain’s position in campaign...

Ben Howlett | 613 cc616-7 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, I have little time left.

Our approach to nuclear weapons has been measured and propo...

Douglas Chapman | 613 c617 (Link to this contribution)

It is a sad irony that a week after the long-awaited Chilcot report highlighted the worrying exte...

Alberto Costa | 613 c617 (Link to this contribution)

Had the Scottish National party won the independence argument, what Army or Navy would it have to...

Douglas Chapman | 613 c617 (Link to this contribution)

One must realise that, as an independent nation, we could provide the same support to NATO as eve...

Philippa Whitford | 613 c618 (Link to this contribution)

Was it not the case in that last entry into our waters that the Ministry of Defence heard about i...

Douglas Chapman | 613 c618 (Link to this contribution)

That could certainly be the case. I am sure that my hon. Friend is better informed on that point ...

James Cartlidge | 613 cc618-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to be called in a debate of such national importance. For me, there is one compel...

Philippa Whitford | 613 c619 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that we would have nuked Germany?

James Cartlidge | 613 c619 (Link to this contribution)

If we had the ability. The nuclear weapon is there for one thing only: to defend this country in ...

Julian Lewis | 613 c619 (Link to this contribution)

To take my hon. Friend back to the earlier intervention, it is a fact that both Germany and the a...

James Cartlidge | 613 cc619-620 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right. I do not want to go back over the historic debate but there are th...

Mike Gapes | 613 cc620-1 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friends the Members for Barrow and Furness (John Woodcock) and for Chesterfield (Toby Per...

Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent | 613 c621 (Link to this contribution)

I am a proud member of both the GMB and Unite trade unions and I stand here today to make the cas...

Madeleine Moon | 613 c621 (Link to this contribution)

Should we not get this into some sort of perspective? By 2020 the UK’s stockpile of nuclear weapo...

Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent | 613 c621 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend ably outlines the threat we really face.

The horrific attacks in Nice last w...

Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent | 613 c622 (Link to this contribution)

I am not giving way.

Whole communities live their lives in the shadow of the shipyards and ...

Caroline Lucas | 613 cc622-3 (Link to this contribution)

Today’s vote and our decision about Trident are at the heart of what kind of future we want for o...

Caroline Lucas | 613 c623 (Link to this contribution)

No.

Right now, around 130 countries have endorsed a UN motion calling for a global ban trea...

Steven Paterson | 613 c624 (Link to this contribution)

Last year, the Government produced their strategic defence and security review and the accompanyi...

Angela Crawley | 613 c624 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that, ultimately, the Government should prioritise their spending on in...

Steven Paterson | 613 cc624-5 (Link to this contribution)

I do accept that, but it is fair to say that, in the SDSR, the Government did make significant mo...

Jamie Reed | 613 cc625-6 (Link to this contribution)

So it is that I, as a democratic socialist, support every word of the motion before us in the nam...

Margaret Ferrier | 613 c626 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously the hon. Gentleman supports the renewal of Trident. Has he any idea why his colleagues ...

Jamie Reed | 613 cc626-7 (Link to this contribution)

That is a matter for my friends in the Scottish Parliament.

It is the policy of the Labour ...

Chris Law | 613 c627 (Link to this contribution)

There is a little flaw in the hon. Gentleman’s argument. The SNP has 56 out of 59 seats here and ...

Jamie Reed | 613 c627 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the hon. Gentleman for that audacious and fundamentally incorrect intervention. I reall...

Drew Hendry | 613 cc627-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am against the renewal of Trident for all the reasons that have been so ably laid out by my hon...

Jamie Reed | 613 c628 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Drew Hendry | 613 c628 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to carry on.

As my hon. Friend the Member for Stirling (Steven Paterson) has...

Lindsay Hoyle | 613 c628 (Link to this contribution)

Order. There can be only one Member on his feet at one time. The hon. Member for Inverness, Nairn...

Drew Hendry | 613 c628 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I have lost a wee bit of time, but I will be as quick as I can.

...
Patrick Grady | 613 c628 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my concern about the spiralling cost, which is even more difficult to c...

Drew Hendry | 613 c628 (Link to this contribution)

I can only agree with my colleague. I was about to make a point about the vulnerability of the mi...

Tom Brake | 613 cc628-9 (Link to this contribution)

This debate is welcome, but I think that many Members will realise that it is not entirely necess...

Mhairi Black | 613 cc629-630 (Link to this contribution)

Government Members seem to have the idea that we in the Scottish National party are against nucle...

Adrian Bailey | 613 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the motion. The Prime Minister said earlier that the first duty of a Government...

Adrian Bailey | 613 c631 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, I will not give way, because too many others want to speak.

Above all, the poli...

Emma Lewell-Buck | 613 cc631-2 (Link to this contribution)

As we know, it was the famous post-war Labour Government who first acquired Britain’s nuclear det...

Emma Lewell-Buck | 613 c632 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way.

That is why both Unite and the GMB support the renewal of our subm...

Margaret Greenwood | 613 cc632-3 (Link to this contribution)

I believe we should oppose the maintenance of the continuous at-sea deterrent. For me, the argume...

Louise Haigh | 613 c633 (Link to this contribution)

In the same statement, the mayor of Hiroshima called on us all to share the sincere message of th...

Margaret Greenwood | 613 cc633-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good case, and I agree with her.

Contemporary nuclear weapons are ca...

Jim Shannon | 613 cc634-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate. This issue has been framed as contentious, controversia...

Geraint Davies | 613 cc635-6 (Link to this contribution)

I was elected by 15,000 voters with a 7,000 majority on a Labour manifesto in favour of Trident a...

Stephen Kinnock | 613 cc636-7 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in favour of the motion, for the following reasons. First, it is the policy on wh...

Liz Saville Roberts | 613 cc637-8 (Link to this contribution)

In November, the UK Government published the latest strategic defence and security review. At tha...

Alan Brown | 613 cc638-9 (Link to this contribution)

Too often today we have heard that Trident is classed as the ultimate deterrent. Yet the great wa...

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 613 cc639-640 (Link to this contribution)

Over our recent history, Parliament has held many debates about the decision to send our armed

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh | 613 cc640-1 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not.

The use of nuclear weapons would not only make us the exception to the rule...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 613 c641 (Link to this contribution)

I come to this debate this evening along with my two colleagues in the Social Democratic and Labo...

Mark Durkan | 613 c641 (Link to this contribution)

Like my hon. Friend, I detect that this is about status. This is a vanity project, and the most t...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 613 cc641-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his very helpful intervention. In that respect, I remember going to a ...

Chris Law | 613 cc642-3 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened for the last few hours to the various arguments on Trident, but I have not yet he...

Chris Law | 613 c643 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman shakes his head, but he needs to listen to the facts. People are going hungry ...

Tommy Sheppard | 613 c643 (Link to this contribution)

To start with, it is a disgrace, and it is contemptuous of this Parliament, that we are being ask...

Lord Beamish | 613 c643 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a powerful speech. He is making the moral argument against nuclear w...

Tommy Sheppard | 613 c643 (Link to this contribution)

As I was saying, we have to ask ourselves whether we are prepared to see the mass execution of no...

Lord Beamish | 613 c644 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Tommy Sheppard | 613 c644 (Link to this contribution)

He has already intervened.

I want to say to colleagues on the Labour Benches who have spoke...

Kirsten Oswald | 613 c644 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my utter dismay at the fact that the House is considering Trident renew...

Tommy Sheppard | 613 cc644-5 (Link to this contribution)

I do indeed.

I was about to say that the people who came second and third in my seat at the...

Neil Gray | 613 c645 (Link to this contribution)

Tonight I will vote against the renewal of the Trident nuclear weapons system and will join my SN...

Margaret Ferrier | 613 cc645-6 (Link to this contribution)

Our new Prime Minister’s main priority has been laid bare less than a week after she took office....

John Bercow | 613 cc646-7 (Link to this contribution)

Order. There are quite a lot of noisy private conversations taking place, including by hon. Membe...

Patricia Gibson | 613 c647 (Link to this contribution)

The case against renewing Trident is quite simple and plain to us on the SNP Benches and to the v...

John Bercow | 613 cc647-8 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Three remaining hon. Members are seeking to catch my eye, and the Front-Bench winding-up s...

Ian Blackford | 613 c648 (Link to this contribution)

I regret that the Prime Minister has come to the House today and the first thing that she has tri...

Gavin Newlands | 613 cc648-9 (Link to this contribution)

Time is short and I have little time for a preamble, but these weapons are a useless relic from a...

John Nicolson | 613 cc649-650 (Link to this contribution)

There is an absurd illogicality about this country’s debate over nuclear weapons. We are debating...

Stewart Malcolm McDonald | 613 c650 (Link to this contribution)

The Government motion asks us to vote for a minimum credible nuclear deterrent. Would it not have...

John Nicolson | 613 c650 (Link to this contribution)

It would indeed, because our conventional forces have been starved of cash. We have no convention...

Clive Lewis | 613 cc650-1 (Link to this contribution)

Let me take this opportunity to welcome the Prime Minister to her role.

It is stating the o...

Lisa Nandy | 613 c651 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to interrupt the thread of my hon. Friend’s important argument, but may I bring him...

Clive Lewis | 613 cc651-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that issue later in my speech, but the motion as it stands calls into question the...

Michael Fallon | 613 cc652-4 (Link to this contribution)

There can be no more important decision for this House to take than the renewal of Britain’s inde...

Angus Robertson | 613 c654 (Link to this contribution)

This is the last opportunity for the Secretary of State. Please will he tell the House before we ...

Michael Fallon | 613 cc654-5 (Link to this contribution)

Many Members have been in this debate all day and will have heard me give the cost for building t...

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