Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

It is a pleasure to be here in this new year to deal with this important Bill. I mention the new ...

The right hon. Gentleman accepts that there is a substantial threat, although he says that we do ...

I look forward to hearing the hon. Gentleman’s speech in support of his own amendments in due cou...

Is not the nub of the matter, as raised by the hon. Gentleman, simply this: it is for the court t...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for tabling his amendments, which have a similar hue to ours, in ...

I have looked through the minutes of evidence taken before the Joint Committee on Human Rights on...

Let us look at those issues in due course. The hon. Gentleman will have an opportunity to make a ...

Does the shadow Minister accept that these temporary arrangements have a level of urgency that is...

I accept that there will always be an element of speed required on occasion to examine issues suc...

I welcome Labour’s conversion to judicial oversight in the matter of temporary exclusion orders. ...

As someone who had the privilege of holding ministerial position in the previous Government, I ca...

What about Second Reading?

Perhaps they were there on Second Reading. I might be a bit old fashioned, but I thought that one...

Is that the best the right hon. Gentleman can do—reading out bits of newspapers?

Well, it strikes me that when The Guardian newspaper reports that the Deputy Prime Minister is ch...

I regret that I have no access to the bowels of Government however unsavoury they might be. I mad...

Let me gently stroke the right hon. and learned Gentleman and try to keep him in the tent. I thin...

The right hon. Gentleman talks about carnage and defeat. I have been around this place during man...

I am not sure whether the hon. Gentleman was in the Chamber at the start of my comments when I sa...

I am listening sympathetically to some of the strong arguments that the shadow Minister is making...

I hope that I can. It is perfectly reasonable to have judicial oversight of such matters. As I ha...

In case the hon. Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab) was asking what the position would be if a...

That is reassuring. I will look forward to my hon. Friend’s support post-May in the happy event o...

I was reflecting as I listened to the right hon. Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson) putting the case fo...

Although I share some of my right hon. and learned Friend’s concerns about riding roughshod over ...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend, but I must say that I profoundly disagree. I think that the issu...

My right hon. and learned Friend and I have crossed swords on this matter on a number of occasion...

The biggest threat to the common law is the statutes we pass in the House that undermine it. The ...

With respect, does my right hon. and learned Friend not realise how out of touch he is? He talks ...

They might be crazed jihadists, and they might be suspected of being crazed jihadists. It might b...

Does my right hon. and learned Friend agree that, as a matter of efficacy, if we want to focus th...

I agree entirely. The truth, I suspect, is that we simply do not know the full spectrum of indivi...

Amendment 18, which stands in my name, has been grouped with those that we are now debating. I en...

The hon. Gentleman talked about the exclusion of the courts, and the right hon. Member for Delyn ...

The hon. Gentleman and I are never likely to reach agreement on these issues. There are honest di...

I must begin by apologising for not being present at the outset of the debate. The business of th...

I seek clarification from my right hon. and learned Friend, based on his considerable knowledge a...

The question is one of the Home Secretary having to persuade the court that he or she was entitle...

After almost four days of debate, this Bill has almost burst into life after I do not know how ma...

Perhaps the answer to the hon. Gentleman’s question is that most Members of Parliament support th...

Perhaps I could help a little. Obviously we want to get to the new clauses and amendments rather ...

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

Unfortunately I missed the beginning of this debate on tempor...

I have listened with great interest to the hon. Gentleman’s contributions throughout the passage ...

That is what I am doing. I am congratulating the Labour party. This evening, for probably the fir...

Order. We need to get to the new clauses and amendments. I understand that you want to try to mak...

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

We have these amendments today because there has been an inte...

I am concerned, and have been for a long time, about the apparent not indifference to but unaware...

A few moments ago, the hon. Gentleman referred to wishy-washy liberties. Is not liberty one of th...

Yes, it certainly is, but it is also subject to the question of what is the appropriate rule of l...

Surely the rule of law must imply and mean in practice that no one’s liberty should be taken away...

There are very sound reasons why the Secretary of State should have the right to determine these ...

The hon. Gentleman refers to conditions A to D, which refer to the Secretary of State “reasonably...

Provided evidence to those who will be making decisions about terrorism-related activities. It is...

Unlike many of my colleagues I am more sympathetic to the Government’s position than others, alth...

Does the hon. Gentleman accept that judicial review can look only at the process of reaching a de...

That is the principle of judicial review, as the hon. Gentleman is well aware, and judicial activ...

Like other Members, I have listened to the debate and to the various points that have been made. ...

The experience of the constituent of the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan), which I was interes...

My objection is not that there is not a great power of intellect in the House of Lords; it is tha...

I see. That is a different point from the one I was addressing, so I apologise to my hon. Friend....

Would my hon. and learned Friend be kind enough to give way?

I give way to a fellow member of the former shadow Attorney-General’s club.

The old cabal.

I wonder if my hon. and learned Friend would be good enough to answer this s...

I am not going to answer that question, because it is not central to my point. When my hon. Frien...

Would the hon. and learned Gentleman be happier, as I would be, if, by the time the Bill returned...

For all sorts of reasons, “managed return” is a more accurate description of what we are about, a...

The hon. and learned Gentleman might recall that when the Home Secretary introduced the Bill she ...

One never knows if the draught is going one way or the other, but let us hope that there is some ...

I associate myself almost entirely with the assessment of the Bill by my hon. and learned Friend ...

I hesitate to speak in the company of such distinguished lawyers, as I am just a former common or...

Given the logic of the hon. Gentleman’s argument, does he believe that we should remove judicial ...

I think we are talking about something slightly different. As I understand it, TPIMs deal with so...

Following the atrocity of 7/7, public anger was very obvious and justified, given that 52 people ...

Of course I do not propose to leave it to the public and their anger. That is taking my arguments...

rose—

Before I end my speech, I had better give way to my good friend.

It is necessary to protect public security while avoiding miscarriages of justice. Does my hon. F...

I broadly accept that point. Much as I admire the Secretary of State and her advisers, I freely a...

I want to make a few brief comments about the important and, in many respects, symbolic issue tha...

I greatly appreciate the speech that we have just heard. It reflects many views that I have held ...

This has been a carefully considered and good debate. Some hon. Members have highlighted that, on...

Just to clarify matters for myself—this may be obvious—the decision to exclude is not in any way ...

I absolutely endorse what my hon. Friend has said. This is not about citizenship. This is a tempo...

Would the Minister be good enough to explain why there is no condition applied for a temporary ex...

I will come on to my hon. Friend’s amendments later, but the test is

“that the Secretary of...

rose—

I promise that I will come back to my hon. Friend’s points, but I would like to get to the Opposi...

What the Minister has just said seems to support the suggestions made by me and others that this ...

I hear the point my hon. and learned Friend makes, and the issue came up when we considered this ...

The Minister must recognise that our amendments are exactly the same as those we tabled in Commit...

There are a number of issues that require further consideration. It is better to get this right a...

Obviously, I cannot speak on behalf of Labour Front-Benchers, but I hope they are not prepared to...

I have clearly recognised the issues highlighted by David Anderson and by right hon. and hon. Mem...

The Minister frames his response in a reasonable manner but, in line with the international conve...

I recognise the strength of feeling that my hon. Friend and other hon. Members have on the need t...

This has been a useful debate, which is reflected in the fact that it has been longer than I expe...

Order. As there was a reason for the delay and a large number of Members were held up coming into...

I beg to move amendment 9, page 1, line 8, at end insert—

‘(2) This section shall be repeal...

I am curious to know why the right hon. Gentleman’s amendment applies only to clause 1, unless I ...

As ever, we are picking arguments and discussion on a range of issues. We could table an amendmen...

It is curious, though, to table an amendment that deals with the one thing that, in another form,...

I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s contribution. Logicality is a matter of judgment. We have ...

We discussed this matter in Committee, and I do not intend to detain the House for a great deal o...

The Minister issued a consultation document on 18 December, which was either the last day or the ...

The right hon. Gentleman was very clear to us about the need for consultation documents to be pro...

Does the Minister think that a sunset clause in prevention of terrorism legislation gave succour ...

If the right hon. Gentleman was listening, he would know that I was clear that I do not believe t...

I have heard what the Minister has said, but the Opposition still wish to examine the issue in de...

I beg to move amendment 10, page 30, line 14, schedule 1, at end insert—

“(c) the individua...

With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment 11, page 30, line 14, at end insert—

“...

The power to seize a passport is set out in clause 1 and schedule 1. For the sake of clarity, I r...

If someone is going abroad with a British passport, either on business or for humanitarian reason...

I suspect that that would be a recipe for chaos in the Foreign Office and for difficult decisions...

I am not seeking to undermine the right hon. Gentleman’s cases and I am interested in what he is ...

The standard excuses are, first, speed and, secondly, the fact that we do not have a Home Office ...

I recognise that the right hon. Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson) advances a number of themes that we ...

Is there any process allowing the senior officer reviewing the initial decision by the constable ...

The review process does not provide for that, but the consultation on the code of practice that g...

My children have three passports: French, Swiss and British. Is there any provision enabling some...

The Bill is, of course, a wider subject than the amendment, but my hon. Friend may wish to consul...

I think that the hon. Member for Somerton and Frome (Mr Heath) made a good point. If a policeman ...

Clearly, the police officer must hold the reasonable belief at that time, as I think my right hon...

The Minister has tried to reassure the House that the clause and schedule provide sufficient safe...

I beg to move amendment 8, page 11, line 3, at end insert—

(iii) any information beyond tha...

I am grateful to the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North (Diana Johnson) for raising these i...

I am grateful to the Minister for going through this very technical part of the Bill. I think it ...