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Devolution and the Union

Backbench debate on Thursday, 20 November 2014, in the House of Commons, led by Dominic Raab. The answering members were Lord Hague of Richmond and Angela Eagle.
Thirteenth backbench debate (part two). Motion that this House recognises the outcome of the referendum on Scottish independence; welcomes the freely expressed will of the people of Scotland to remain British; notes the proposals announced by Westminster party leaders for further devolution to Scotland; calls on the Government and Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to bring forward proposals that are fair and reasonable for the whole of the United Kingdom, following a period of public consultation to enable people in all parts of the Union to express their views; and, in particular, calls on the Government to ensure such proposals include a review of the Barnett formula and legislative proposals to address the West Lothian question. Motion lapsed.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
588 cc468-526 
Session
2014-15
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber

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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 588 c469 (Link to this contribution)

I inform the House that none of the amendments has been selected. Many colleagues have indicated ...

Dominic Raab | 588 cc469-470 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House recognises the outcome of the referendum on Scottish indepen...


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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c470 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman’s party leader, the Prime Minister, said during the referendum campaign that e...

Dominic Raab | 588 c470 (Link to this contribution)

This may be the easiest intervention I get today, but I do agree that everything is on the table ...

Jonathan Evans | 588 c470 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend not find it curious to hear these sotto voce interventions of SNP Members def...

Dominic Raab | 588 c470 (Link to this contribution)

As usual, my hon. Friend makes a cogent and eloquent point. That point is actually made by the SN...

Hywel Williams | 588 c470 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree with the Prime Minister when he said in the Liaison Committee this ...

Dominic Raab | 588 c471 (Link to this contribution)

I suppose it depends on how broad, far and deep is one’s horizon. [Interruption.] Let me pursue t...

Mike Weir | 588 c471 (Link to this contribution)

There is almost a point of agreement here. In our proposals to the Smith review, we said:

“...

Dominic Raab | 588 c471 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman—I was on the cusp of saying “My hon. Friend”—has made his point so powerfully ...

Michael McCann | 588 c471 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Dominic Raab | 588 c471 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress before I give way again. I have been very generous so far.

Ian Murray | 588 c471 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Dominic Raab | 588 cc471-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make a small amount of progress, but I will happily take an intervention a little l...

Mark Lazarowicz | 588 c472 (Link to this contribution)

Does not focusing the debate on the Barnett formula mean focusing it much too narrowly? If we are...

Dominic Raab | 588 c472 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has made a good point. I am certainly in favour of looking at the logical impl...

Sarah Wollaston | 588 c472 (Link to this contribution)

Surely it cannot be right for someone who is living with, say, heart disease or cancer to suffer ...

Dominic Raab | 588 c472 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend—who chairs the Health Committee—is absolutely right, as usual. We must all agree t...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c472 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say something instructive to the hon. Gentleman. He has mentioned subsidies for Scotland a...

Dominic Raab | 588 cc472-3 (Link to this contribution)

If the Barnett formula is not subsidising Scotland to the degree that concerns some of us, why is...

Tom Greatrex | 588 c473 (Link to this contribution)

As I am sure the hon. Gentleman knows, of the 460 pieces of primary legislation proposed by the G...

Dominic Raab | 588 c473 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has made his point very calmly and sensibly, but it seems to me that if we man...

Dominic Raab | 588 c473 (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Gentleman will find that London is part of England, and will, by definition, be ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 588 c473 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman may wish to address the issues to which the amendment refers, but he ca...

Dominic Raab | 588 c474 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I bow to your instructions and guidance.

The proposal, as ...

Roger Godsiff | 588 c474 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab) on securing the debate. Like him, I...

Jonathan Evans | 588 c475 (Link to this contribution)

May I caution the hon. Gentleman about saying that exactly the same powers should be offered to W...

Roger Godsiff | 588 cc475-6 (Link to this contribution)

I did not say that the powers would automatically be transferred. I said that they would have to ...

Anne Main | 588 c476 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for missing the first few remarks made by my hon. Friend the Member for Esher and Wal...

Naomi Long | 588 c476 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the hon. Lady that Northern Ireland remains part of the United Kingdom, in case we are i...

Anne Main | 588 cc476-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an interesting point, and I am certain that there would be no reason why, if ...

Anne Main | 588 c477 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way. I am sure that many MPs on the Benches around the hon. Gentleman want to mak...

Pete Wishart | 588 c477 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady give way on that point? She cannot get away from it.

Anne Main | 588 c477 (Link to this contribution)

I can get away from it—I can ask the hon. Gentleman to sit down. My constituents are as much in n...

Anne Main | 588 cc477-8 (Link to this contribution)

I think I have made it clear to the hon. Gentleman that I do not intend to give way on the Barnet...

George Howarth | 588 cc478-9 (Link to this contribution)

First, I thank the Backbench Business Committee for the opportunity to have this debate and the h...

Ann McKechin | 588 c479 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a persuasive argument. Does he agree that, constitutionally, the r...

George Howarth | 588 c479 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Given what I have said, it follows logically that I do agree wit...

Anne Main | 588 c479 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

George Howarth | 588 c479 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, because I have not got a lot of time, but I hope the hon. Lady will agree th...

George Howarth | 588 cc479-480 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady nods in assent, as what we are saying is very much along the same lines; I just put...

Andrew Miller | 588 c480 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is putting forward a good case for the city region of Merseyside, and I thin...

George Howarth | 588 c480 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend, and I think I said as much. I believe that it would be sheer folly t...

Alan Reid | 588 cc480-1 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate those hon. Members who secured this important debate today.

Just two months ...

Sandra Osborne | 588 c481 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman also note that all of the party leaders said in the vow that the Barnett ...

Alan Reid | 588 c481 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is perfectly correct. That was a vow that was made by the Prime Minister, the Deput...

Bob Stewart | 588 c481 (Link to this contribution)

If the vow was that the Barnett formula should continue, so be it, but that does not mean it shou...

Alan Reid | 588 c481 (Link to this contribution)

The vow that was made in the run-up to the referendum—just before polling day—was that the Barnet...

Dominic Raab | 588 c481 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the hon. Gentleman what happened to the promise made by the leader of his party and eve...

Alan Reid | 588 c481 (Link to this contribution)

The coalition agreement has been adhered to. At my party’s conference in October—it is usually in...

Alan Reid | 588 c482 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, it is all right. That is a point on which we agree, but it is about the only one.

Wher...

Alan Reid | 588 c482 (Link to this contribution)

Let me just finish this point. Any solution that involves removing the ability of MPs outside Eng...

Frank Roy | 588 c482 (Link to this contribution)

For that change to take place, does the hon. Gentleman agree that a constitutional convention sho...

Alan Reid | 588 c482 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly agree that a constitutional convention is a good idea, but it must not hold up the pr...

Michael McCann | 588 c482 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman made the point that we must consider Scottish MPs voting on issues such as the...

Alan Reid | 588 c482 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. Legislation does not of itself lead to more spendi...

Alan Reid | 588 c483 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady must be brief because I am running out of time.

Naomi Long | 588 c483 (Link to this contribution)

I will be brief. Welfare reform has a massive impact on Northern Ireland, yet the devolved powers...

Alan Reid | 588 c483 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, there is an issue that affects Northern Ireland. It is responsible for a great deal of s...

Angus Robertson | 588 c483 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate colleagues on securing the debate. Something that has gone unmentioned so far in t...

Sheila Gilmore | 588 c483 (Link to this contribution)

I fully agree that that is a step forward. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will want to endorse th...

Angus Robertson | 588 c483 (Link to this contribution)

I am a great supporter of the representation of both men and women, and feel that there should be...

Angus Robertson | 588 c484 (Link to this contribution)

I am still only in my introductory remarks. It is also important on such an historic day to pay t...

Julian Lewis | 588 c484 (Link to this contribution)

I do indeed pay tribute to Alex Salmond who is a very considerable figure. By resigning, he seems...

Angus Robertson | 588 c484 (Link to this contribution)

I was coming on to make the point that the Scottish National party and the Scottish Government co...

Angus Robertson | 588 c484 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me, I have already taken interventions and want to make some progress. It is likely that ...

Angus Robertson | 588 c484 (Link to this contribution)

I have already given way, so I am making some progress.

Angus Robertson | 588 c484 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman talks about political parties not making progress. May I draw his attention to...

Angus Robertson | 588 c485 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not take an intervention.

The Scottish Government have set out their approach to...

Margaret Curran | 588 c485 (Link to this contribution)

Following on from the logic of the hon. Gentleman’s argument, may I ask that his party respects t...

Angus Robertson | 588 cc485-6 (Link to this contribution)

We are respectful of the Smith process and I await the outcome of the commission. I look forward ...

Rory Stewart | 588 c486 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Angus Robertson | 588 c486 (Link to this contribution)

I have not even read out the statistics yet. I ask the hon. Gentleman to wait to hear them.

Rory Stewart | 588 c486 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, 55% of the Scottish population expressed their wish not to have independence. Will...

Angus Robertson | 588 c486 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the hon. Gentleman and I agree that such a question will be posed when the people wis...

John Glen | 588 c486 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that the motion is before the House and I would like to address two particular iss...

John Glen | 588 c487 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will make some more progress. All sides of the debate acknowledge that there are disparitie...

Pete Wishart | 588 c487 (Link to this contribution)

For the sake of clarity, as lots of people in Scotland are watching the debate, are Conservative ...

John Glen | 588 c487 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman can contain his anger and listen to what I have to say, he will notice that...

John Glen | 588 c487 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to continue with my speech.

That cannot be done on the basis of one short-te...

Hywel Williams | 588 c487 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree with the findings of the commission that looked into funding for Wa...

John Glen | 588 c487 (Link to this contribution)

I favour a fair funding commission that would examine all funding across the United Kingdom at th...

Diane Abbott | 588 c488 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that attempts at regionalisation in the previous Parliament showed ...

John Glen | 588 c488 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I agree. I was going on to say that what our constituents want is to avoid a higher c...

Rory Stewart | 588 c488 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman support the McKay commission in relation to that?

John Glen | 588 cc488-9 (Link to this contribution)

I was just about to say that there is a considerable body of support among Government Members in ...

Graham Allen | 588 cc489-490 (Link to this contribution)

If you believe as I do, Madam Deputy Speaker, that the United Kingdom should continue for another...

Angus Robertson | 588 c490 (Link to this contribution)

On the family of nations, I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will agree that taking Scotland and t...

Graham Allen | 588 c490 (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that the hon. Gentleman, as someone who tried to leave the family of nations, does not ...

Diane Abbott | 588 c490 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the issues arising from the current debate on devolution an...

Graham Allen | 588 cc490-1 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is uncharacteristically moderate in her proposal on this occasion. I will come to ...

Gerald Howarth | 588 cc491-2 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the House for not having been here at the start of proceedings. I hope Members wil...

Julian Lewis | 588 c492 (Link to this contribution)

I am completely undecided on the correct course to take when a vow that could well have influence...

Gerald Howarth | 588 c492 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a valid point. I think that one of the factors that influenced the campaign ...

Pete Wishart | 588 c492 (Link to this contribution)

Is it the view of Tory Back Benchers, therefore, that the vow is not even worth the price of the ...

Gerald Howarth | 588 c492 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very stupid question. The constitutional point is that the leaders of the three parties...

Gerald Howarth | 588 c492 (Link to this contribution)

No, the question is so silly that it is not worth responding to again.

I do not believe the...

George Howarth | 588 c493 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman. I want to see the maintenance of the Union, but surely he must a...

Gerald Howarth | 588 c493 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the right hon. Gentleman. It is important—I was just coming on to make the ...

Gerald Howarth | 588 cc493-4 (Link to this contribution)

No. I have given way enough.

I do not want more regional government. My hon. Friend the Mem...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 588 c494 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I call the next speaker, it will be obvious to the House that the excitement of the...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 588 cc494-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will try to meet the five minutes deadline. I am pleased to join in this debate. When I first j...

George Howarth | 588 c495 (Link to this contribution)

I think my right hon. Friend has answered my question. We could still get all those disparities w...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 588 c495 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, the debate about the Barnett formula has to be comprehensive. It has to take up all form...

Jonathan Evans | 588 cc495-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a genuine pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Birkenhead (Mr Field). He knows that...

Hywel Williams | 588 cc496-7 (Link to this contribution)

Yesterday’s Evening Standard—not a paper that I read that often, or that I always agree with—note...

Hywel Williams | 588 c497 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way. I do believe that some powers will be made over to Scotland, though I suspec...

Jonathan Evans | 588 c497 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Jonathan Evans | 588 c497 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. I intervened in the certainty that the hon. Gentleman would get another minute fro...

Hywel Williams | 588 c497 (Link to this contribution)

I thought that the hon. Gentleman might raise that point. Support for the status quo was at 37%; ...

Paul Flynn | 588 c497 (Link to this contribution)

We have all heard the worrying suggestion that the vow that changed the result of the referendum ...

Hywel Williams | 588 cc497-9 (Link to this contribution)

I was very glad to allow another Welsh Member to take part, and ironically, he made a point about...

Mark Lazarowicz | 588 c498 (Link to this contribution)

It is important that today’s debate is based on fact and reality. Given some things we have heard...

Greg Knight | 588 c498 (Link to this contribution)

Has not Lord Barnett himself said that the formula should not have continued for as long as it ha...

Mark Lazarowicz | 588 cc498-500 (Link to this contribution)

He did say that, but it did continue, and fairly successfully.

If one compares the relative...

Lord Austin of Dudley | 588 cc500-1 (Link to this contribution)

Now that the Scots have had their say, now that there is a London Mayor and a London Assembly, no...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 588 c501 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sympathetic to the idea of having a Minister for the west midlands, but why should such...

Lord Austin of Dudley | 588 cc501-2 (Link to this contribution)

We can look at all those arrangements, but at the very least we should start by having someone in...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c502 (Link to this contribution)

This debate has settled on three issues: the Barnett formula, more powers for Westminster, and, o...

Robert Smith | 588 c502 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes the important point that the commitments made by leaders in the referend...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c502 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for intervening before I made any points, because he has allowed me to...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 588 c503 (Link to this contribution)

Whatever YouTube shows, the Scottish people will make decisions when they want to make decisions....

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c503 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with that but I point out to the right hon. Gentleman that after the next election, accor...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c503 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress and then I will give way—[Hon. Members: “Ahh!] My goodness. I have give...

Thomas Docherty | 588 c503 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman recall that on 14 September, four days before the referendum, Alex Salmon...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c503 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not recall that—[Interruption.] I don’t! But again, that should be seen in the context o...

Dominic Raab | 588 c503 (Link to this contribution)

Given all the complications, cloud, and smoke and mirrors that the hon. Gentleman is articulating...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c504 (Link to this contribution)

The review we are looking for, in the context of the Barnett formula, is one with full fiscal aut...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c504 (Link to this contribution)

I am really sorry, but I have been too generous in giving way. Members overlook that point when t...

Lindsay Hoyle | 588 c504 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We do not usually use a Member’s name, certainly when he is not informed of any discussion...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 cc504-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am always delighted to follow your guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker. If they want to strike it from ...

Ian Murray | 588 cc505-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Mr MacNeil). I ...

Ian Murray | 588 c506 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give way to the hon. Gentleman, but only if he makes a relevant point, not a frivol...

Pete Wishart | 588 c506 (Link to this contribution)

I will try to do my best for the hon. Gentleman. When the former leader of the Labour party in Sc...

Ian Murray | 588 c506 (Link to this contribution)

I knew that would be a waste of an intervention. Many Scottish Members want to speak, but the beh...

Ian Murray | 588 c506 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way because I want other Members to speak and time is ticking on.

A constit...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 588 c507 (Link to this contribution)

Let me pour a bit of oil on this heated debate and remind us of its title, “Devolution and the Un...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 588 c507 (Link to this contribution)

I am reluctant to do so. I found the hon. Gentleman’s speech irritating because he was so ill-tem...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c507 (Link to this contribution)

I promise the hon. Lady that if my speech appeared like that, it was because of the barracking an...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 588 c508 (Link to this contribution)

When my children used to behave badly, they blamed their big brother, and it always takes two to ...

Paul Flynn | 588 cc508-9 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak on behalf of a group in my party that is little heard of, but involves a long tra...

Paul Flynn | 588 c509 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman wish to intervene?

Lindsay Hoyle | 588 c509 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Members should address the Chair. The last two speakers have felt the need to face in the ...

Angus Brendan MacNeil | 588 c509 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Newport West (Paul Flynn) is making a thoughtful speech. Does he think that t...

Paul Flynn | 588 cc509-510 (Link to this contribution)

I shall tread carefully here. I do not want to get involved in the Scottish situation, on which w...

Lindsay Hoyle | 588 c510 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman’s time is up.

4.2 pm

William Bain | 588 cc510-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab) and the Backbench Business Committee for s...

Michael McCann | 588 c511 (Link to this contribution)

Would my hon. Friend not wish to put into that equation systems such as Highlands & Islands Airpo...

William Bain | 588 cc511-2 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely; what my hon. Friend is saying, as I am arguing, is that if we want a common statehood...

Lindsay Hoyle | 588 c512 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I just say that the time limit is going to have to be four minutes now, because of the...

Iain McKenzie | 588 c512 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to welcome this debate—[Interruption.]

Lindsay Hoyle | 588 c512 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I just help Members? I do not reduce the time limit deliberately—I do that because Mem...

Iain McKenzie | 588 cc512-3 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I rise to welcome this debate on devolution and the Union, which co...

Sheila Gilmore | 588 cc513-4 (Link to this contribution)

I particularly welcome the opportunity to speak today because in the previous devolution debate I...

Mark Durkan | 588 cc514-5 (Link to this contribution)

I find myself feeling a bit like the right hon. Member for Holborn and St Pancras (Frank Dobson) ...

Michael McCann | 588 cc515-6 (Link to this contribution)

Like the hon. Member for Foyle (Mark Durkan), I enjoy injecting a bit of humour into debates in t...

Diane Abbott | 588 cc516-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to be able to speak in this important debate on devolution and the Union and I congr...

Angela Eagle | 588 cc517-520 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Esher and Walton (Mr Raab) and those who sponsored his motion ...

Gerald Howarth | 588 c520 (Link to this contribution)

Can the hon. Lady tell us how long she expects this modest endeavour to take?

Angela Eagle | 588 c520 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman mean the constitutional convention?

Angela Eagle | 588 c520 (Link to this contribution)

We are already doing some pre-work, before the election. We want this to happen very quickly afte...

Lindsay Hoyle | 588 c520 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The shadow Deputy Leader of the House needs to stop enticing colleagues to speak. I want t...

Angela Eagle | 588 c521 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for Dunfermline and West Fife (Thomas Doc...

Angela Eagle | 588 cc521-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will get on with that later, Mr Deputy Speaker.

Our amendment, had it been selected, woul...

Lord Hague of Richmond | 588 cc522-3 (Link to this contribution)

It has indeed been an interesting, lively and, in the main, good-tempered debate, with one or two...

Lord Hague of Richmond | 588 c523 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way briefly but I must make progress.

Pete Wishart | 588 c523 (Link to this contribution)

Can the right hon. Gentleman clear this up once and for all? The hon. Member for Aldershot (Sir G...

Lord Hague of Richmond | 588 cc523-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will defend my hon. Friend, to save time. To be fair to him, he said that the SNP had called th...

Lord Hague of Richmond | 588 cc524-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way again because I have only a few minutes before I must let my hon. Friend the ...

Dominic Raab | 588 c525 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the Leader of the House’s rousing summation. I certainly agreed with a...

David Hamilton | 588 c525 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on bringing forward this debate. The issue at stake is getting ...

Dominic Raab | 588 c526 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, and I agree with all his points. Indeed, they we...

Dominic Raab | 588 c526 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress.

My hon. Friend the Member for St Albans (Mrs Main) made a powerf...

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