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Pension Schemes Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 2 September 2014, in the House of Commons, led by Steve Webb. The answering member was Gregg McClymont.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on committal, proceedings in public bill committee, on consideration and third reading and on other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Money resolution. Agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
585 cc195-249 
Session
2014-15
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Pension Schemes Bill 2014-15
Thursday, 26 June 2014
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Steve Webb | 585 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

It gives me great pleasure to move ...

Richard Fuller | 585 c196 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is rightly saying that this Bill is part of a series of measures the Government have...


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Steve Webb | 585 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that question. The number is substantially higher. I had to a...

Anne Begg | 585 c196 (Link to this contribution)

May I be very clear that both the Select Committee and the Opposition welcome auto-enrolment and ...

Steve Webb | 585 cc196-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady will be aware that there was a decade between the first stirrings of the Turner rep...

Kelvin Hopkins | 585 c197 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister talks about poor value for money, but essentially is the problem not the private pen...

Steve Webb | 585 cc197-8 (Link to this contribution)

I always enjoy it when the hon. Gentleman intervenes to make that point. In a sense, he has been ...

Kelvin Hopkins | 585 c198 (Link to this contribution)

I would like the opportunity to answer every point made by the Minister, but let me ask him one s...

Steve Webb | 585 c198 (Link to this contribution)

But the idea that if the economy does very badly tax-funded pensions are secure is implausible. I...

Crispin Blunt | 585 c198 (Link to this contribution)

I represent a significant number of providers in my constituency, including Legal and General, Pa...

Lindsay Hoyle | 585 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman might be better off making his point in two interventions, because othe...

Steve Webb | 585 cc198-9 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make a start, and I will then be happy to give way again. To be clear, the £20 million is ...

Crispin Blunt | 585 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I will take advantage of your invitation, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am not suggesting anything other t...

Mark Field | 585 c199 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend give way? [Laughter.]

Steve Webb | 585 cc199-201 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that my hon. Friend can intervene on an intervention, but I will give way to him i...

Guy Opperman | 585 c200 (Link to this contribution)

On behalf of my constituents in Northumberland, I wholeheartedly welcome this reform, which has b...

Steve Webb | 585 cc200-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for raising that important point about the potential market and d...

Nigel Mills | 585 c202 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has just mentioned the regulatory regime. Has he given any thought to how we will re...

Steve Webb | 585 cc202-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. That is an issue that the Work and Pensions Committee, of which ...

Gregg McClymont | 585 cc203-6 (Link to this contribution)

It was striking to hear the Minister refer to a “revolution” and a “war”—not terms one usually as...

David Mowat | 585 c206 (Link to this contribution)

The shadow Minister’s point would be stronger if in the past when people purchased annuities that...

Gregg McClymont | 585 c206 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is a doughty fighter for better pensions and I respect that, but I ask him to ...

Gregg McClymont | 585 c206 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Gentleman in a moment. Let me make the point again in case it has bee...

Gregg McClymont | 585 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Member for Hexham (Guy Opperman) and then to the Secretary of State.<...

Guy Opperman | 585 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for allowing me to intervene before the Secretary of State, b...

Gregg McClymont | 585 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I will come back to the hon. Gentleman’s point after letting the Secretary of State come in.

Iain Duncan Smith | 585 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I have become a little confused about the Opposition’s position, so perhaps the hon. Gentleman co...

Gregg McClymont | 585 c207 (Link to this contribution)

Given that Labour in opposition led the way in calling for reform of the annuities market, we wel...

Gregg McClymont | 585 cc207-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a little more progress and then let in hon. Members from all parts of the Government ...

Steve Webb | 585 c208 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman clarify the evolution of the Opposition’s thinking? In government, six mo...

Gregg McClymont | 585 cc208-211 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to take all the credit, of course— having not been in the previous Parliament—but in...

Nigel Mills | 585 c211 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the hon. Gentleman’s point, but is there not a reverse problem when someone wants to...

Gregg McClymont | 585 cc211-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am rarely accused of making pensions less complex, so I shall take the hon. Gentleman’s comment...

Mark Field | 585 cc212-3 (Link to this contribution)

I paraphrase the Minister when I say that it is probably fair to say that like holy matrimony pen...

Guy Opperman | 585 c213 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not fundamental that, given the failures of annuities, the Government provide extra flexibi...

Mark Field | 585 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)

I confess that I wholeheartedly support the Treasury’s belief in the principle of freedom to whic...

Ian Swales | 585 c214 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman share my concern that the move to individualism will potentially shoot aw...

Mark Field | 585 cc214-6 (Link to this contribution)

I do share some of those concerns. I agreed to a certain extent with the Opposition spokesman’s p...

Anne Begg | 585 cc216-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cities of London and Westminster (Mark Field). A n...

Nigel Mills | 585 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate and welcome the many positive measures in the Bill, whic...

Ian Swales | 585 c220 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend raises some excellent points. He does not specifically mention governance, which c...

Nigel Mills | 585 c220 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. I have not been totally clear. I was alluding to the fact that these schemes will be even ha...

Steve Webb | 585 c221 (Link to this contribution)

I did not respond properly to the hon. Gentleman when he intervened on me on this matter. Broadly...

Nigel Mills | 585 cc221-2 (Link to this contribution)

That is a helpful clarification, but we have still had the bizarre situation in which the Pension...

Anne Begg | 585 c222 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that often when there is too much choice people are paralysed and e...

Nigel Mills | 585 cc222-4 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. Some data suggest that the optimum number of choices is four. If there are 20 choices in a m...

Lord Hain | 585 cc224-7 (Link to this contribution)

In noting the interesting points that the hon. Member for Amber Valley (Nigel Mills) raised, I pa...

Brian Binley | 585 c227 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening with interest, as I always do, to the experienced right hon. Gentleman. I understa...

Lord Hain | 585 cc227-232 (Link to this contribution)

I have great respect for the hon. Gentleman despite our big political differences. I anticipated ...

John Hemming | 585 cc231-4 (Link to this contribution)

I start with an apology to the House because I had to attend two Committees earlier so could not ...

Mark Hoban | 585 cc234-7 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to my right hon. Friend the Minister for missing some of his speech and to the hon. M...

Steve Webb | 585 c237 (Link to this contribution)

I am enjoying my hon. Friend’s characteristically well informed speech. To reassure him on indust...

Mark Hoban | 585 cc237-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that tulips and the Netherlands are necessarily an appropriate model. One of the ea...

Nigel Mills | 585 c238 (Link to this contribution)

The one asset my hon. Friend did not mention is the house a person owns, which I suspect people w...

Mark Hoban | 585 cc238-9 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point and he is right to pick up on that omission. When we thin...

Shabana Mahmood | 585 cc239-242 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to wind up this relatively short but interesting and important debate. Despite p...

Mark Hoban | 585 c241 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady make her position clear? Is she saying that what should be offered to every pe...

Shabana Mahmood | 585 c241 (Link to this contribution)

No, we have not called for regulated advice, but I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will agree tha...

Mark Hoban | 585 c243 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way, as she is being very generous. If she does not wan...

Shabana Mahmood | 585 c243 (Link to this contribution)

To the extent that we have this debate about advice and guidance, I am sure that the hon. Gentlem...

David Gauke | 585 cc243-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to respond to this Second Reading debate. As we have heard, it has perhaps...

Gregory Campbell | 585 c246 (Link to this contribution)

Many of the large number of people in the middle, as the Minister puts it, will be looking forwar...

David Gauke | 585 cc246-8 (Link to this contribution)

That is why we are bringing in the guidance guarantee. That is why we want to ensure that people ...

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