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Immigration Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 7 May 2014, in the House of Commons.
Money resolution (No. 2), resolved. Programme motion (No. 2), relating to consideration of Lords amendments, agreed to on question. Consideration of Lords amendments. Lords amendment 18, disagreed to on division (305 to 239). Lords amendment 16, disagreed to on division (307 to 241). Lords amendment 24, disagreed to on division (304 to 240). Amendments made in lieu. Remaining Lords amendments agreed to, with Commons financial privileges waived in respect of Lords amendments 7, 16 and 24. Motion that a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their amendments 16 and 24. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
580 cc189-236 
Session
2013-14
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Lords amendments
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Immigration Bill 2013-14. Lords amendments.
Tuesday, 6 May 2014
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Primarolo | 580 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I must draw the House’s attention to the fact that financial privilege is involved in Lords amend...

James Brokenshire | 580 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 18.


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Baroness Primarolo | 580 c190 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to take Government amendments (a) and (b) in lieu of Lords amendm...

James Brokenshire | 580 c190 (Link to this contribution)

The fundamental duty of any Government is to protect the British public and maintain the security...

Sarah Teather | 580 c191 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister able to clarify the numbers involved and how the Secretary of State and, indeed, ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c191 (Link to this contribution)

It might be helpful if I explain that since the law was changed in 2006, 27 people have been depr...

Julian Huppert | 580 c191 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment (a) is certainly a helpful move on some, if not all, the concerns, but how will the pro...

James Brokenshire | 580 c191 (Link to this contribution)

It may be helpful if I say that the Home Secretary will consider the relevant nationality laws of...

Pete Wishart | 580 c192 (Link to this contribution)

What happens if no other nationality is available? Does the Home Secretary simply give up?

James Brokenshire | 580 c192 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman clearly makes the point about what we are seeking to achieve in respect of the...

James Brokenshire | 580 c192 (Link to this contribution)

Various people are attempting to catch my eye. I give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Forest...

Mark Harper | 580 c192 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening carefully to what my hon. Friend is saying, and the House should realise that he i...

James Brokenshire | 580 c192 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. I pay tribute to him for his work on the Bi...

John McDonnell | 580 c192 (Link to this contribution)

I want clarification about what the reasonable grounds are. Amendment (a) could be interpreted to...

James Brokenshire | 580 c193 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman needs to understand that the particular concern—the gap that has been identifi...

James Brokenshire | 580 c193 (Link to this contribution)

I can see that my hon. Friend the Member for Brent Central (Sarah Teather) wants to make a second...

Sarah Teather | 580 c193 (Link to this contribution)

I want to follow up the Minister’s answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Cambridge (Dr Huppert)...

James Brokenshire | 580 c193 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, the primary consideration is for the Home Secretary to research various materials...

Robert Buckland | 580 c193 (Link to this contribution)

I want to press my hon. Friend on justiciability. Is he now satisfied that amendment (a) deals wi...

James Brokenshire | 580 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. My hon. Friend rightly points to article 15 of the universal declaration of human rights, wh...

Fiona Mactaggart | 580 c194 (Link to this contribution)

All the examples that the Minister has used relate to cases in which he expects people to reacqui...

James Brokenshire | 580 c194 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment (a) was carefully framed and consideration was given to the comments of the Supreme Cou...

James Brokenshire | 580 c194 (Link to this contribution)

A number of my hon. Friends are trying to intervene. I give way to my hon. Friend the Member for ...

Richard Shepherd | 580 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister. This proposal is predicated on the fact that the Home Secreta...

James Brokenshire | 580 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I will make two points in answer to my hon. Friend. First, the decision of the Secretary of State...

Jeremy Corbyn | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister clarify the point that he has just made? Is he suggesting that there will be a ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

There is the ability to challenge deprivation decisions. Many cases have been brought before the ...

Mark Harper | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to the hon. Member for Slough (Fiona Mactaggart) because I respect her opini...

Baroness Primarolo | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that the point of an intervention is not to comment on a previ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has made his point. I am sure that he will make it again in ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I will take one further round of interventions, then I will make some progress.

Sarah Teather | 580 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister comment on the time frame in which he thinks it is reasonable to expect somebod...

James Brokenshire | 580 c196 (Link to this contribution)

That is largely in the hands of the individual. When the power is exercised, it will be open to t...

Julian Huppert | 580 c196 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being very generous; I am sure that there will be questions on later sections of ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c196 (Link to this contribution)

In those circumstances, the Home Secretary would obviously have exercised her power to deprive, s...

James Brokenshire | 580 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to my hon. Friend who has not intervened on me before.

Lord Sharma | 580 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I want to press the Minister on the point that my hon. Friend the Member for Cambridge (Dr Hupper...

James Brokenshire | 580 c196 (Link to this contribution)

If the individual is in the UK, which I think is the situation on which that comment is predicate...

Keith Vaz | 580 cc196-7 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for missing the Minister’s opening remarks, which I am sure were extremely important....

James Brokenshire | 580 c197 (Link to this contribution)

It is difficult to make general comparisons with other states, because of the different natures o...

Keith Vaz | 580 c197 (Link to this contribution)

As usual, I have asked a question and the Minister has given me a straight answer, and I am extre...

James Brokenshire | 580 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I would hesitate to provide commentary on the laws of Belgium, the Republic of Ireland or other c...

Glenda Jackson | 580 c197 (Link to this contribution)

Although I was not present for the beginning of the Minister’s speech, I have been watching the d...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc197-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is not about that at all. I am sorry that the hon. Lady may have missed some of my earlier com...

Richard Shepherd | 580 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying, then, that the person deprived of their citizenship will not know the rea...

James Brokenshire | 580 c198 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will gain satisfaction from the judgment that SIAC will make in each individual ca...

Glenda Jackson | 580 c198 (Link to this contribution)

Will SIAC have the information from the individual’s home Government? For example, will there be ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c199 (Link to this contribution)

It is difficult to comment on individual circumstances and cases. The Secretary of State will nee...

James Brokenshire | 580 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I will draw my comments to a close, as I have been generous to hon. Members across the House.

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Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc199-200 (Link to this contribution)

I support the Lords amendments. Having listened to the Lords and to contributions from Members ac...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc200-1 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister says no, but the Home Secretary brought forward the proposals on 30 January on Repor...

Julian Huppert | 580 c201 (Link to this contribution)

The shadow Minister is talking about the process and that is very interesting, but can I press hi...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c201 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will allow me, I will come on to that point in a moment. We abstained on 30...

Mark Harper | 580 c201 (Link to this contribution)

The more the right hon. Gentleman speaks, the more confused I am about his position. My right hon...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

I think both Houses of Parliament should have an opportunity to take evidence, as happens during ...

Glenda Jackson | 580 c202 (Link to this contribution)

There is a great, gaping hole in the Government’s argument. However much the Minister may speak a...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c202 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has anticipated some of my own arguments. Like the hon. Member for Cambridge (Dr H...

James Brokenshire | 580 c202 (Link to this contribution)

I am somewhat confused by what the right hon. Gentleman is now saying. Does he not support the Go...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc202-3 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister should reflect on that. He will know that the Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Ac...

Jeremy Corbyn | 580 c203 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with what my right hon. Friend has just said, but is not one of the fundamental problems ...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c203 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that because my hon. Friend anticipates the concerns we had and that we raised ...

Richard Fuller | 580 c203 (Link to this contribution)

Like my hon. Friend the Member for Aldridge-Brownhills (Sir Richard Shepherd), when I hear phrase...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c203 (Link to this contribution)

That is a legitimate question, and it is one that deserves an answer. The point I would make is t...

Robert Buckland | 580 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I listened with interest when the right hon. Gentleman talked about his fear that the UK would be...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I am trying to ensure that we propagate good practice. There are many states that currently remov...

Mark Reckless | 580 c204 (Link to this contribution)

The shadow Minister did say that this was in breach of our international obligations, but he now ...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc204-5 (Link to this contribution)

I could do worse than to cite what Lord Deben, a Conservative peer, has said—[Interruption.] The ...

Richard Shepherd | 580 cc205-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am greatly concerned about this measure, and I will just make some observations. The Minister r...

Pete Wishart | 580 cc206-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Aldridge-Brownhills (Sir Richard Shepherd)....

Mark Harper | 580 c208 (Link to this contribution)

Let me first remind the House what we are asking it to do today—to disagree with the Lords in the...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c208 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right to say that the proposal is that the Committee shall serve for the du...

Mark Harper | 580 cc208-9 (Link to this contribution)

I accept the right hon. Gentleman’s point, but that is not provided for. The Committee regulates ...

John Redwood | 580 c209 (Link to this contribution)

Given my hon. Friend’s expert knowledge on this subject, can he give the House some indication of...

Mark Harper | 580 cc209-210 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend the Minister set out how many individuals had been deprived of their citizenship o...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 580 c210 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I call anyone else to speak, let me say that we have a very short time in this part...

Fiona Mactaggart | 580 c210 (Link to this contribution)

I will be brief. I spoke in 1997 in the debate on the formation of SIAC, and I was wrong. I thoug...

Julian Huppert | 580 cc210-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Slough (Fiona Mactaggart). I pay tribute to her fo...

John McDonnell | 580 cc211-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a disgrace that we are talking about civil liberties and yet we have only nine minutes left...

Robert Buckland | 580 cc212-3 (Link to this contribution)

I feel like I am in an episode of “Just a Minute”, Madam Deputy Speaker, but here goes.

I s...

James Brokenshire | 580 c213 (Link to this contribution)

It is worth outlining again at the outset the purpose of the Government’s amendments, which is to...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I do not have time to give way.

We have reflected on the need for oversigh...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 580 c214 (Link to this contribution)

I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 580 c214 (Link to this contribution)

I now have to announce the result of the deferred Division on the question relating to the draft ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c214 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 16.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 580 c214 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Lords amendment 24, and Governmen...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc214-9 (Link to this contribution)

This group covers the remaining aspects of the Bill. I will focus on Lords amendments 16 and 24 a...

Lisa Nandy | 580 c219 (Link to this contribution)

Before I came to this place, I spent nearly a decade working with trafficked children. These matt...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Lady that immigration can be a relevant factor and that it relates to a num...

Lisa Nandy | 580 c220 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the fact that the Minister is trying to look at broader issues of children’s welfare; p...

James Brokenshire | 580 c220 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her intervention and for her genuine passion and concern for t...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 580 c220 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure there is a dispute between the Minister and my hon. Friend the Member for Wigan (Li...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc220-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the right hon. Gentleman’s intervention, for his work in chairing the Joint Com...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 580 c221 (Link to this contribution)

I have two questions for the Minister on this important point. I do not think anyone disputes tha...

James Brokenshire | 580 c221 (Link to this contribution)

As I have indicated, our intention is to introduce an enabling power. We will provide a statutory...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 580 c221 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, because this issue is so important. He is proposing...

James Brokenshire | 580 c221 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, having announced the trials at the end of January, I want to see them proceed. It is imp...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c222 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister remind us how many trials there will be, and where and when? What is the date of...

James Brokenshire | 580 c222 (Link to this contribution)

The trials are intended to be conducted in 23 areas, commencing at the beginning of July. We have...

Lisa Nandy | 580 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way again on such an important issue. The statutory unde...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

Under the arrangements, each child victim is to be allocated a person with specialist training an...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 580 c223 (Link to this contribution)

If a child was brought into this country and an immigration officer suspected that the child was ...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

Let me reassure the right hon. Gentleman, and the hon. Member for Wigan, that all children who ar...

Jeremy Corbyn | 580 c224 (Link to this contribution)

On the question of administrative review, is it not really a way of avoiding the inconvenience —f...

James Brokenshire | 580 c225 (Link to this contribution)

The administrative review process is already effective in identifying and correcting caseworking ...

Julian Huppert | 580 c225 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for the Government’s support for these amendments, which I tried to put in t...

James Brokenshire | 580 c225 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise those who have made the case for this change for some considerable time, and I am ple...

Fiona Mactaggart | 580 c226 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister rightly says that we are dealing with an historical anomaly, and that makes the case...

James Brokenshire | 580 c226 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for that and I have certainly heard the points she has made.

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc226-7 (Link to this contribution)

I, again, thank the Minister for his helpful introduction to the Government’s position on the Lor...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that what the Minister has said does satisfy the other place, but if we vote against the G...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes a valuable point. As I said at the beginning, the vote was 282 to 184 ...

Julian Huppert | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

A few of us are slightly confused about the procedure, and the right hon. Gentleman has been here...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

That is the right way round. The Lords have expressed a clear view on the matter. The Lords will ...

James Brokenshire | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

I think that the right hon. Gentleman is saying that he wants to accept the Lords amendments beca...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

The Lords have expressed their view clearly, and what the Minister has said today is known alread...

Mark Harper | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

I think that the right hon. Gentleman is missing the fact that the amendments are narrowly framed...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c228 (Link to this contribution)

There is clearly a common interest but a disagreement on procedure. If the Minister has a view ab...

Mark Harper | 580 c229 (Link to this contribution)

One thing that would not be helpful is to put these measures in place and have a procedure that d...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 c229 (Link to this contribution)

Imperative action is needed now. I have dealt with a number of Bills over the past few years and ...

Fiona Mactaggart | 580 c229 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that if the Minister gave a commitment, which he has not done, th...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 580 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is, as ever, correct. I have not yet had, following my intervention on the Ministe...

Sarah Teather | 580 cc230-1 (Link to this contribution)

I have tabled a series of manuscript amendments today to seek clarification from the Minister. I ...

Sarah Teather | 580 cc231-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that the Minister is upset, but it means that he has heard me.

If an unaccompani...

Paul Blomfield | 580 c233 (Link to this contribution)

I want briefly to seek clarification in relation to international students and the changes that h...

Mark Harper | 580 cc233-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to be called to speak, Mr Deputy Speaker. I will make sure that I leave the Ministe...

James Brokenshire | 580 cc235-6 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a useful opportunity to touch on a number of important issues. In some ways, we hav...

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