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Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership

Backbench debate on Tuesday, 25 February 2014, in the House of Commons, led by John Healey. The answering member was Lord Clarke of Nottingham.
Twenty-sixth backbench debate (second half). Motion that this House has considered the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
576 cc186-234 
Session
2013-14
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
John Healey | 576 c186 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partne...

Lord Sharma | 576 c186 (Link to this contribution)

Like everyone in the House, I want this partnership to succeed and for us to get to an end point....


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John Healey | 576 cc186-7 (Link to this contribution)

There may indeed; the hon. Gentleman raises an interesting point. He has been part of the cross-p...

John Healey | 576 c187 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to the hon. Member for Skipton and Ripon (Julian Smith).

Julian Smith | 576 c187 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that we in the all-party group have been somewhat helped by G...

John Healey | 576 c187 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman may be slightly disappointed by my response, because I do not necessarily agre...

John Healey | 576 c187 (Link to this contribution)

I was going to give way to the hon. Member for Wycombe (Steve Baker), but he has left the Chamber...

Julian Smith | 576 c187 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman clarify how on earth Britain will be able to persuade inward invest...

John Healey | 576 cc187-8 (Link to this contribution)

The answer is simply because a deal with China is very different from a deal with the US. The US ...

Lisa Nandy | 576 c188 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend and colleagues from across the House for initiating this de...

John Healey | 576 c188 (Link to this contribution)

I would indeed. My hon. Friend is right: the US has failed to sign six central ILO conventions on...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 576 c188 (Link to this contribution)

We currently export more agricultural products than we import in trade with the United States, an...

John Healey | 576 cc188-9 (Link to this contribution)

I do agree. What is interesting about the way in which the debate has progressed in the seven mon...

Caroline Lucas | 576 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for securing such an important debate. While Ministers seem keen...

John Healey | 576 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I had not heard that statement and I am surprised that the financial services industry has the de...

Robert Walter | 576 c189 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has talked about the benefits for the Untied Kingdom of the TTIP negotia...

John Healey | 576 c190 (Link to this contribution)

Quite simply, there would be no negotiations. Interestingly, our all-party group recently had the...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 576 c190 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that, strictly speaking, he is not entirely right? As I have ...

John Healey | 576 c190 (Link to this contribution)

We are, indeed, such a trading partner, but I have to say that we are not big or significant enou...

Julian Smith | 576 c190 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that, as I understand it, there was no debate about trade or...

John Healey | 576 c191 (Link to this contribution)

I remember a series of very high-profile international trade trips led by Prime Minister Blair an...

Baroness Primarolo | 576 c191 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I hope that for the right hon. Gentleman “finally” means finally. The recommended time lim...

John Healey | 576 c192 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for your guidance, Madam Deputy Speaker, because I had not appreciated that the deb...

Baroness Primarolo | 576 c192 (Link to this contribution)

Order. For clarification for all hon. Members, the debate is a timed one. It will last only three...

John Healey | 576 c192 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I shall resist any more interventions—I have taken plenty alread...

Baroness Primarolo | 576 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Thirteen Members wish to participate in the debate. To clarify, the debate will end at 4.5...

Mark Field | 576 c193 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the right hon. Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) on securing this deba...

Julian Smith | 576 c193 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that, despite all the hassle Kraft got, its £70 million commitment to C...

Mark Field | 576 cc193-4 (Link to this contribution)

Very much so. I suspect that my hon. Friend knows more about the chocolate industry than I, parti...

Caroline Lucas | 576 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is aware that the Department for Business, Innovation and Skill...

Mark Field | 576 cc194-5 (Link to this contribution)

I look forward to the Minister destroying one or two of those arguments. I suspect that the hon. ...

Julian Smith | 576 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is not just the UK Government that should be carrying out that ...

Mark Field | 576 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that, but realistically we in the UK probably also need our Government to make clear som...

Debbie Abrahams | 576 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman able to comment on earlier remarks by my right hon. Friend the Member for W...

Mark Field | 576 c195 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Lady will allow me, I will not comment on that but will leave it to the Minister. I w...

David Mowat | 576 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, my hon. Friend mentions the need for an EU-US regulatory framework for financial service...

Mark Field | 576 cc195-6 (Link to this contribution)

I say simply to my hon. Friend that given the potential huge benefits of the TTIP, it seems odd t...

Jonathan Edwards | 576 cc196-7 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome this debate and I am honoured to have put my name to the motion before the House. I am ...

David Simpson | 576 c197 (Link to this contribution)

Although this is a good news story in that it can create about £10 billion for the UK economy, do...

Jonathan Edwards | 576 cc197-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention and I will go on to agree with some of the points the hon. Ge...

Caroline Lucas | 576 c199 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a very powerful case. Does he agree that it is not enough simply to ...

Jonathan Edwards | 576 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I fully concur with the views of my hon. Friend. I will go on to talk on that specific issue in t...

David Mowat | 576 c199 (Link to this contribution)

What proposals does the hon. Gentleman have to protect British investments overseas if he is so p...

Jonathan Edwards | 576 cc199-200 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely interested in that point. I was going on to say that this is a deal between two ad...

David Mowat | 576 c200 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes the point that the Mexico-US agreement was principally of benefit to the...

Jonathan Edwards | 576 c200 (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Gentleman is trying to distract me from the point I was trying to make. I would ...

Baroness Primarolo | 576 c200 (Link to this contribution)

We will start with a time limit of eight minutes on all contributions from Back Benchers. That ma...

Robert Walter | 576 cc200-1 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the right hon. Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) and the hon. Member f...

William Cash | 576 c201 (Link to this contribution)

In the light of his remarks, will my hon. Friend explain why, in our trading with the other 27 st...

Robert Walter | 576 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

As always my hon. Friend asks an incisive question that deserves an answer, which is that if we s...

Jim Sheridan | 576 c202 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) and others ...

Julian Smith | 576 c202 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Jim Sheridan | 576 c202 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has had a good run so far today. I am conscious of Madam Deputy Speaker’s inst...

Jim Cunningham | 576 c203 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that this could lead to protection for employees and the environment being waived. We nee...

Jim Sheridan | 576 cc203-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend and he raises the concerns of many of us. It is irresponsible and I believ...

Robert Syms | 576 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the right hon. Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) on introducing the de...

Robert Syms | 576 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I will not, because we are short of time.

There is a debate to be had about the European Un...

Ian Murray | 576 cc205-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Backbench Business Committee for scheduling the debate. Let me also echo the tributes...

Julian Smith | 576 c206 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ian Murray | 576 c206 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way once to my—hon. Friend!

Julian Smith | 576 c206 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend. Following the point made by the right hon. Member for Wentworth and Dearn...

Ian Murray | 576 c206 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be unpicking some of the arguments during the short time available to me. I think that IS...

Jim Cunningham | 576 c206 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has probably heard some of my colleagues say that the agreement will be all right ...

Ian Murray | 576 cc206-9 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I shall deal with some of those issues later in my speech, an...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c209 (Link to this contribution)

I too congratulate the right hon. Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) and his colleague...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c209 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way shortly. I will merely say that the fact that we have this near consensus in Brit...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 576 c209 (Link to this contribution)

I fully agree with the way in which the Minister has approached this debate and the TTIP, but wil...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c210 (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly try to address all those concerns. That is the key reservation that is being exp...

Brian H Donohoe | 576 c210 (Link to this contribution)

Our delegation that was sent to the States saw at first hand the discussions on the time scale. A...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 cc210-1 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman follows these matters closely, and he knows that, on both sides of the Atlanti...

Robert Buckland | 576 c211 (Link to this contribution)

In our negotiations with the US Government, is it not important that we should emphasise the dist...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c211 (Link to this contribution)

I can assure my hon. Friend that I make that point, although we are not hostile to the Pacific pa...

Robert Buckland | 576 c211 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a danger that members of Congress who are hostile to the fast-track authority propos...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c211 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to that is yes, there is a danger. I can assure my hon. Friend that we will do our bes...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c212 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make some progress; otherwise, I will not be able to complete my speech in the appropriate...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 cc212-3 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make my point and go through the argument, and then I will give way. First, let us remembe...

Julian Smith | 576 c213 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the fact that my right hon. and learned Friend is standing up for small and micro-busin...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c213 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, I understand the doubts being expressed, because some extremely respectable lobbies an...

Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 576 c213 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman therefore give us an assurance that nothing in this tra...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c214 (Link to this contribution)

I realise that a broader issue underpins those fears, which is the extent to which there is scope...

Lord Spellar | 576 c214 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman was asked a question regarding the involvement of micro-busi...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c214 (Link to this contribution)

I am not encouraging small companies to start engaging in arbitration in major commercial dispute...

William Cash | 576 c214 (Link to this contribution)

Before my right hon. and learned Friend concludes, will he elucidate on the point he made earlier...

William Cash | 576 c214 (Link to this contribution)

It was with respect to the question of transparency and the fast-track arrangements. As my right ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I said only that the timing of fast track authority would have an effect on the timing of any agr...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c215 (Link to this contribution)

This will definitely be the last intervention I will take.

Brian H Donohoe | 576 c215 (Link to this contribution)

On the basis of discussions on this matter with Senators from the United States, it seems that th...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 cc215-6 (Link to this contribution)

Well, they are, but that is, as several people have said, part of the significance of this potent...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 576 c216 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The House will be aware that this is a time-limited debate and there is not very much time...

Lord Spellar | 576 cc216-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak, and I will truncate my remarks.

I...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 576 c217 (Link to this contribution)

It is good news that we are discussing the TTIP which, as far as I am aware, is the most ambitiou...

Jim Shannon | 576 c217 (Link to this contribution)

On the subject of food, two companies in my constituency wanted to export to the United States, b...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 576 c219 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention.

There are so many differences between the...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 576 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

He is about to intervene, but I am going to quote him anyway, because he might be about to repeat...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 576 c220 (Link to this contribution)

As I understand it, an investor who has access to this process would not be able to start arguing...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 576 cc220-1 (Link to this contribution)

I very much appreciate my right hon. and learned Friend’s intervention. At this stage it is very ...

Baroness Clark of Kilwinning | 576 cc221-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Richmond Park (Zac Goldsmith). I congratulate memb...

Guto Bebb | 576 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran (Katy Clark). It is diffi...

Roger Williams | 576 c223 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend the Member for Richmond Park (Zac Goldsmith), who is no longer in his place, raise...

Guto Bebb | 576 c223 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that we must ensure that a treaty requires a level playing field for food producers. The...

Mark Tami | 576 c223 (Link to this contribution)

Is that not the key point? Without agreements such as this one, we will not have a level playing ...

Guto Bebb | 576 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. It is a shame that my hon. Friend the Member for Richmond Park (Zac Golds...

Guto Bebb | 576 cc224-5 (Link to this contribution)

I have to conclude my remarks, because I have only two minutes left.

We have talked about i...

Ian Lavery | 576 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)

A number of people have said that there must be a good business case for the transatlantic trade ...

Mark Pawsey | 576 cc226-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to speak in this important debate and I add my congratulations to the all-...

Guto Bebb | 576 c228 (Link to this contribution)

On the “Buy American” strategy in America, is it not the case that the concern lies more with pol...

Mark Pawsey | 576 c228 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a fair point, but the perception of politicians was that the “Buy American” ...

William Bain | 576 cc228-230 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by congratulating my right hon. Friend the Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) ...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 576 cc230-1 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say at the outset that I am pro-trade. I want our export industry to increase, and I want ...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 576 cc231-2 (Link to this contribution)

No, not teetotal, but TTIP.

I urge the Minister to think of the 85,000 people in our commun...

Jeremy Corbyn | 576 cc232-3 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for calling me, Madam Deputy Speaker. I apologise to the House for not being able to be...

Debbie Abrahams | 576 c233 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend not concerned that the Government still refuse to say that the NHS will be exem...

Jeremy Corbyn | 576 cc233-4 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. It seems strange that we cannot say that we are going to exempt the NHS from discussi...

John Healey | 576 c234 (Link to this contribution)

We have had a good debate, with very good speeches from both sides. Notwithstanding the contribut...

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