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Holiday Pricing

Backbench debate and e-petition debate on Monday, 24 February 2014, in the House of Commons, led by John Hemming. The answering member was Jenny Willott.
Unallotted backbench debate (half day). Motion that this House has considered the e-petition relating to holiday companies charging extra in school holidays. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
576 cc1-38WH 
Session
2013-14
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions
John Hemming | 576 c1WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the e-petition relating to holiday companies ...

Therese Coffey | 576 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend confirm whether the previous rule used to be about 10 days or 10 sessions? I ...


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John Hemming | 576 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

My understanding was that it was 10 days.

John Hemming | 576 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend may be right, but that has been changed anyway.

There is also the issue of t...

Daniel Kawczynski | 576 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for not being able to stay for the entire debate, but I wanted to support my hon. Fri...

John Hemming | 576 cc2-5WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that comment. As I talk about specific examples, we will see that diff...

Penny Mordaunt | 576 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman also recognise the particular problems faced by members of the armed forc...

John Hemming | 576 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for making that excellent point. I would happily have made it myself, but I...

Julian Lewis | 576 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

I draw the hon. Gentleman’s attention to the situation of my constituent Amanda Wooding, who is a...

John Hemming | 576 cc5-6WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. The issue is all about considering individual cases....

Natascha Engel | 576 cc6-7WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Turner, for calling me to speak in this important debate. I also thank my colleague...

Therese Coffey | 576 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

Has a teacher or head teacher approached the hon. Lady on this topic, and, in this particular cas...

Natascha Engel | 576 cc7-8WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely, and the case is ongoing. I was citing it as an example of using a massive hammer to c...

Annette Brooke | 576 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with many of the points the hon. Lady is making, but I have a concern about putting the o...

Natascha Engel | 576 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

That is an excellent point. I know the hon. Lady has a background in education, and she is absolu...

George Howarth | 576 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

I think I agree with my hon. Friend, but does she agree with me that the problem is that there ar...

Andrew Turner | 576 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before you continue, can I ask that you face my direction in future?

Natascha Engel | 576 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. Our problem at the moment is that we have one national policy that is suppose...

Justin Tomlinson | 576 cc8-9WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Turner. As an MP who represents a constitue...

Tobias Ellwood | 576 c9WH (Link to this contribution)

As a representative for Bournemouth East, my default position is to support the tourism industry....

Justin Tomlinson | 576 c9WH (Link to this contribution)

Like Bournemouth, which is a fantastic place to go on holiday, my hon. Friend’s intervention was ...

Toby Perkins | 576 c9WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Member for North Swindon (Justin Tomlinson)for giving way and to the ho...

Justin Tomlinson | 576 cc9-10WH (Link to this contribution)

Derbyshire is also a fantastic place to go on holiday. Let us champion every constituency. I thin...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 576 c11WH (Link to this contribution)

I am following closely what the hon. Gentleman is saying. Once a child has been away on holiday f...

Justin Tomlinson | 576 c11WH (Link to this contribution)

That applies to general discretion. There is a plus and a negative with any suggestion, which is ...

Andrew Turner | 576 c11WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. I call Damian Green. I am sorry: I meant Damian Hinds.

5.7 pm

Damian Hinds | 576 cc11-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the elevation implicit in your introduction, Mr Turner. It is a pleasure to see...

Damian Hinds | 576 c12WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, it is my fault. I worked mostly in the hotel business, but the same principle applies to air...

Annette Brooke | 576 c12WH (Link to this contribution)

I want to draw on the hon. Gentleman’s expertise. I accept that there is supply and demand and th...

Damian Hinds | 576 c13WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is correct that the rises coincide with school holidays. To some extent, the existe...

Julian Lewis | 576 c13WH (Link to this contribution)

I fully appreciate my hon. Friend’s argument that the rich seasons help airlines and the tourist ...

Damian Hinds | 576 c13WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point. The short answer is that such a measure would be welcomed by t...

Tobias Ellwood | 576 c13WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point on the responsibility of the tourism industry as a whole ...

Damian Hinds | 576 cc13-4WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is correct in identifying price gouging as a problem. From a regulatory perspectiv...

Damian Hinds | 576 c15WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, indeed. The big thing we are talking about is varying holidays, which is intrinsically attra...

George Mudie | 576 cc15-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Birmingham, Yardley (John Hemming) on securing this debate, bu...

George Mudie | 576 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I hope my hon. Friend is not going to defend Bognor Regis.

Andy Sawford | 576 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree that the regulations that the Government created to place fines on parents have exacerbat...

George Mudie | 576 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. A tremendous amount is being lost, but it is because of the D...

George Mudie | 576 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I will catch the hon. Lady’s eye in a moment, if I may. My wife is a head teacher and has been a ...

George Mudie | 576 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I said that I would give way to the hon. Lady.

Penny Mordaunt | 576 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank both hon. Gentlemen for letting me intervene. We are all here because we know that the pu...

George Mudie | 576 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

I would not challenge the last part, but I still think that we would leave the regulators with a ...

Alison McGovern | 576 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. I want to flag with him another sort of case that h...

George Mudie | 576 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

I will answer my hon. Friend when I come on to the DFE. I was thanking the people who have signed...

Julian Lewis | 576 cc17-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I am slightly conflicted over the whole issue. The hon. Gentleman made the point about people nee...

George Mudie | 576 cc18-9WH (Link to this contribution)

That is an important point.

One of the things that has come from this e-petition is a reque...

George Mudie | 576 c19WH (Link to this contribution)

I see you nodding, Mr Turner. It could get worse than that, because both parents could be fined, ...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 576 cc19-20WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my constituency next-door neighbour, my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Yardley (J...

Andy Sawford | 576 c20WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an important point about consultation, and I should be interested to hear whe...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 576 c20WH (Link to this contribution)

I should be delighted to do that. There is a large element of the Asian diaspora based in my cons...

Therese Coffey | 576 c20WH (Link to this contribution)

I hope to mention the issue of the 10 days in my speech, but the hon. Lady will recognise that th...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 576 c21WH (Link to this contribution)

What is “special” and what is “exceptional” is a semantic point. I remind the House of what the h...

Robin Walker | 576 c21WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady accept that there is discretion for head teachers to define what counts as spe...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 576 c21WH (Link to this contribution)

I do, indeed, and I do not think that anyone is better qualified than the head teacher to make th...

Therese Coffey | 576 cc21-2WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to contribute to this debate. I had not planned to do so at 4.30 pm, but h...

Andy Sawford | 576 c22WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an important point. Notwithstanding the principle, part of the problem with m...

Therese Coffey | 576 cc22-3WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not profess to be an expert on parliamentary procedure or on why certain bits of legislation...

John Hemming | 576 c23WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree, as she probably does, that a funeral would be a valid use of exception...

Therese Coffey | 576 cc23-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I am not aware that Ofsted is applying that particular pressure. I agree on one aspect, however. ...

Toby Perkins | 576 cc24-6WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Dr McCrea. You have only just joined us; I ass...

Toby Perkins | 576 c25WH (Link to this contribution)

There may shortly be a plug for having party conferences in Bournemouth.

Tobias Ellwood | 576 c25WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has made my point for me: Bournemouth is better suited for party conferences.<...

Toby Perkins | 576 cc25-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on repeating my suggestion.

It is usual during winding-up...

Damian Hinds | 576 c28WH (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman saying that there is something in the operation of some elements of the tra...

Toby Perkins | 576 cc28-9WH (Link to this contribution)

That is a valid question. A broader study would provide better information to establish whether t...

Gordon Marsden | 576 c29WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to my hon. Friend for missing the beginning of his speech, but I had a previous engag...

Toby Perkins | 576 cc29-30WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes the important point, exactly as one might expect of a Member of Parliament f...

Jenny Willott | 576 cc30-1WH (Link to this contribution)

As everyone has today, I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Yardley (John Hem...

John Hemming | 576 c31WH (Link to this contribution)

Given that the issue is about supply and demand, the regulations that the Government introduced a...

Jenny Willott | 576 cc31-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I shall come back to the point about the schools regulations if my hon. Friend will bear with me....

Toby Perkins | 576 c32WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister describes the pressures on the market, and we have heard that there was no impact as...

Jenny Willott | 576 cc32-3WH (Link to this contribution)

I cannot comment on the impact assessment done by the Department for Education, but I will come b...

John Hemming | 576 c33WH (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, it is difficult being a Minister in a different Department. Will the Minister ask the ...

Jenny Willott | 576 c34WH (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to ask colleagues to write to my hon. Friend, because clearly I haven’t got a clue abo...

George Mudie | 576 c34WH (Link to this contribution)

Could the Minister ask the relevant Education Minister to tell the people who have attended the d...

Jenny Willott | 576 c34WH (Link to this contribution)

When we contact colleagues in the Department for Education, I am sure that we can send them a cop...

John Hemming | 576 c34WH (Link to this contribution)

A number of participants in the debate think that head teachers are making the wrong decisions. I...

Jenny Willott | 576 c34WH (Link to this contribution)

My figures on the number of parents who took their children out of school are slightly different ...

John Hemming | 576 c35WH (Link to this contribution)

The discrepancy between the Minister’s figures and mine may rest on the fact that mine deal with ...

Jenny Willott | 576 c35WH (Link to this contribution)

That may well be the case, but it does not undermine the argument that we must ensure that parent...

Tobias Ellwood | 576 c35WH (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that she agrees with that proposal? I gave the example of Kent, Yorkshire ...

Jenny Willott | 576 c35WH (Link to this contribution)

The staggering of school holiday periods may well lengthen the period of peak demand and help to ...

Justin Tomlinson | 576 c36WH (Link to this contribution)

I raised that point. I accept that schools can lead locally, but the reason why the system works ...

Jenny Willott | 576 c36WH (Link to this contribution)

It is clear that such a decision will have to be made across a local authority area, or more broa...

Tobias Ellwood | 576 c36WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to press the matter, but I think it is an important takeaway from the debate. As my ho...

Jenny Willott | 576 c36WH (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, free schools, academies and some church schools can set their own dates. There is...

John Hemming | 576 c36WH (Link to this contribution)

On that point, schedule 14 to the Deregulation Bill will give schools the power to set term and h...

Jenny Willott | 576 c36WH (Link to this contribution)

I cannot really comment on what the Education Committee should or should not look at, but I am su...

Therese Coffey | 576 c37WH (Link to this contribution)

I just want to make the Minister aware that not everyone present wants Parliament, the Education ...

Jenny Willott | 576 c37WH (Link to this contribution)

I must confess that as an MP representing a Welsh constituency, I benefited significantly last we...

Steve Brine | 576 c37WH (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with the Minister, but although we know that school attendance is important, w...

Jenny Willott | 576 c38WH (Link to this contribution)

I completely disagree with the hon. Gentleman. The Government are actually ensuring that head tea...

John Hemming | 576 c38WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank you, Dr McCrea, for your chairmanship, Mr Turner for his able work, and all the contribut...

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