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Immigration (Bulgaria and Romania)

Backbench debate and e-petition debate on Monday, 22 April 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Mark Pritchard. The answering member was Mark Harper.
Unallotted backbench debate (half day). Motion that this House has considered the e-petition relating to immigration from Bulgaria and Romania in 2014. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
561 cc187-232WH 
Session
2012-13
Department
Home Office
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0749
Monday, 29 April 2013
Deposited papers
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Mark Pritchard | 561 cc187-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the e-petition relating to immigration from B...

Wayne David | 561 c188WH (Link to this contribution)

Before the hon. Gentleman moves on, will he acknowledge that there is a great deal of concern tha...


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Mark Pritchard | 561 c188WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s intervention, because he prematurely comes on to points th...

Chris Bryant | 561 c188WH (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that the hon. Gentleman understands the Liberal Democrat policy better than I do, becau...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c189WH (Link to this contribution)

We will have to wait and see the detail. In general, I do not support the policy, but in terms of...

Bob Stewart | 561 c189WH (Link to this contribution)

On that point, let us clarify that it is not Government policy to have any sort of bond at the mo...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c189WH (Link to this contribution)

That is right, but I take the Deputy Prime Minister’s words on bonds seriously. Clearly, I would ...

Chris Bryant | 561 c189WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman did not say, but I presume that he means non-EU nationals, because if he means...

Mark Pritchard | 561 cc189-190WH (Link to this contribution)

In my preamble, I said that I would be speaking about non-EU immigrants before coming on to the p...

Wayne David | 561 c190WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman share my view, then, on this matter? Would he like to see prosecutions br...

Mark Pritchard | 561 cc190-1WH (Link to this contribution)

Of course. I think that there would be consensus on that issue and I hope that there will be cons...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c191WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on his speech. I also praise him for his reference to the BBC “News...

Mark Pritchard | 561 cc191-2WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very helpful contribution to the debate, as he always does. I am grateful ...

Chris Bryant | 561 c192WH (Link to this contribution)

I sympathise with the hon. Gentleman’s point about people from other countries using the NHS, tho...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c192WH (Link to this contribution)

No, not at all, but the hon. Gentleman’s point is a bit of a red herring. He is right: 1.4 millio...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c192WH (Link to this contribution)

I shall move on to jobs after I give way to my hon. Friend.

Mark Field | 561 c192WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made a robust case. I represent this area, which has two big hospitals— St Mar...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c193WH (Link to this contribution)

I was not making a party political point; I was merely making a statement of fact. The Government...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c193WH (Link to this contribution)

I shall give way to my right hon. Friend after my hon. Friend the Member for Cities of London and...

Mark Field | 561 c193WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a fair case about trying to change attitudes in the NHS—among GP commissione...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c193WH (Link to this contribution)

I give way to my right hon. Friend the Member for Mid Sussex (Nicholas Soames).

Lord Soames of Fletching | 561 c193WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on his speech on this important matter. I endorse his point. There ...

Mark Pritchard | 561 cc193-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. and right hon. Friends for their interventions. My hon. Friend the Membe...

Chris Bryant | 561 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

All that would allow Britain to do would be to enforce the rules we currently have because we do ...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

I am not saying that there is a legal route, but as a politician I do not subscribe to the view t...

Chris Bryant | 561 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

Based on our existing treaty obligations, the only way in which the hon. Gentleman could do that ...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

No, not at all, but on the issue of leaving the EU, thank goodness that at last, because of the C...

Chris Bryant | 561 c195WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is being absolutely preposterous in his argument. He knows perfectly well that...

Mark Pritchard | 561 cc195-6WH (Link to this contribution)

We will wait and see—we do not know whether what I have said will happen in the short term—but, a...

Keith Vaz | 561 cc196-7WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Walker. I apologise to the hon. Member for ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 561 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not say this in a tongue in cheek way, but the right hon. Gentleman was the Minister for Eur...

Keith Vaz | 561 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will have to wait for my memoirs to get all the information, but he is right t...

Andrea Leadsom | 561 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman not recall whether, since other countries had transitional controls...

Keith Vaz | 561 c197WH (Link to this contribution)

At the end of the day, although one wants to big oneself up as Minister for Europe, the decision ...

Chris Bryant | 561 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

Only my mother calls me Christopher, Mr Walker. However, while reading recently, I was struck by ...

Keith Vaz | 561 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend was my successor as Minister for Europe, and I do not know whether he had the chan...

Steve Barclay | 561 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman seemed to say that the questions that should have been put were not put,...

Keith Vaz | 561 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

Not really, because I finished being Minister for Europe in 2001, and enlargement took place in 2...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c198WH (Link to this contribution)

May I gently correct the right hon. Gentleman? I am following his speech closely. The 50,000 peop...

Keith Vaz | 561 cc198-9WH (Link to this contribution)

That is extremely helpful. That is the figure I have.

Let me move on to the next report tha...

Wayne David | 561 c199WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend accept that one very real difficulty in estimating the numbers likely t...

Keith Vaz | 561 c199WH (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely right. In addition, of course, a number of other countries will also lift thei...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 561 c199WH (Link to this contribution)

We need to learn the lessons of the past properly. Three members of the Public Accounts Committee...

Keith Vaz | 561 cc199-201WH (Link to this contribution)

It is important that the matter should cross Departments. Yes, there was some work—I cannot remem...

Lord Soames of Fletching | 561 cc201-3WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship for the first time, Mr Walker. I hope that you ...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c203WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a huge pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Walker. I congratulate my hon. Friend ...

George Howarth | 561 c203WH (Link to this contribution)

Mr Hollobone had the floor, but before I bring him back, as it were, it might be worth mentioning...

Philip Hollobone | 561 cc203-4WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth. I think that a few Members thought...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 561 c204WH (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the excellent work that my hon. Friend has done on this issue over the past few ...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c205WH (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful for my hon. Friend’s helpful intervention. I praise the work that he does on b...

Andrew Turner | 561 c205WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is attacking this from the wrong end. It is no good saying, “What happened in 1066...

Philip Hollobone | 561 cc205-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that my hon. Friend and I disagree. I was trying to say that the British public ex...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c206WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. Will he set out the difference between a residency card...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c206WH (Link to this contribution)

A residency card is not an identity card in that sense, but there would be a requirement for EU n...

David Ward | 561 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

My wife’s job is to find schools for children from the new arrival community. The question is not...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes. The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, and I congratulate his wife on the work she does.

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David Ward | 561 c207WH (Link to this contribution)

I want to correct that point, because people do not receive full entitlement to all benefits as s...

Philip Hollobone | 561 cc207-8WH (Link to this contribution)

That is right, but my constituents would say, “Why should someone from another EU nation state ar...

Kris Hopkins | 561 cc208-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for The Wrekin (Mark Pritchard) on securing the debate. ...

George Howarth | 561 c209WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. If the hon. Gentleman is making a general speech about immigration, he needs to relate it ...

Kris Hopkins | 561 cc209-210WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Howarth. The next paragraph comes on to that very issue.

I am concerned that ...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 561 cc210-2WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth, and to speak in the debate. I cong...

Chris Bryant | 561 c211WH (Link to this contribution)

I think the biggest difference that matters legally in the EU is whether a benefit is contributor...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 561 c211WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the hon. Gentleman’s intervention, and I understand exactly what he is saying. I was co...

David Ward | 561 c211WH (Link to this contribution)

I want to add a note of balance. I came to the London marathon to watch my son run, and it was di...

Chris Heaton-Harris | 561 cc211-4WH (Link to this contribution)

When we talk to people on the doorstep, as I am sure the hon. Gentleman does regularly, they gene...

Steve Barclay | 561 cc214-5WH (Link to this contribution)

The petition that generated such a response focused on the desire to extend for a further five ye...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c215WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend raises an important point on the principle of always testing, because however expe...

Steve Barclay | 561 cc215-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. In terms of veterinary science, I was not aware of ...

George Howarth | 561 c217WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman is making a very interesting point and making it very fluently, but per...

Steve Barclay | 561 cc217-8WH (Link to this contribution)

Mr Howarth, you bring me on to the crux of the point. We already have a concentration of HMOs in ...

Philip Hollobone | 561 c218WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on raising that point. I think that actually it is a big point and ...

Steve Barclay | 561 c218WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. I have raised the point repeatedly with Ministers; ...

Keith Vaz | 561 c218WH (Link to this contribution)

I have not come across that point before and I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising...

Steve Barclay | 561 cc218-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for the opportunity to clarify my remarks. It is a wider point. ...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 561 cc219-220WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Howarth, for allowing me to speak. I apologise for not being present for the whole ...

David Ward | 561 c220WH (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Gentleman’s local authority suffered, as Bradford has, from the use of outdated cens...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 561 cc220-1WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a pertinent and sensible point—that is exactly the case. We have worked ...

Steve Barclay | 561 c221WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way and for the work that he is doing on behalf of not only Pet...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 561 cc221-2WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend tempts me down a path that might get me into trouble with the Chairman, but he has...

Chris Bryant | 561 cc222-3WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a great delight to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth. It is something I have never ...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 561 c223WH (Link to this contribution)

May I just set the record straight? I represent a constituency which has had, in no particular or...

George Howarth | 561 c223WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. All that is very interesting, but I am afraid it needs to lead towards Bulgaria and Romani...

Chris Bryant | 561 cc223-4WH (Link to this contribution)

Exactly, and Bulgarians and Romanians will be grateful to have heard precisely that point.

...

Mark Pritchard | 561 c224WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is usually well informed, and I am sure this was an oversight, but Germany, al...

Chris Bryant | 561 c224WH (Link to this contribution)

It is actively campaigning at the moment to encourage inward migration, and particularly skilled ...

George Howarth | 561 c224WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman is an experienced Member of the House, and he knows that he should not ...

Chris Bryant | 561 cc224-5WH (Link to this contribution)

My inexperience shows itself so frequently that it is a delight to have your experience in the Ch...

Keith Vaz | 561 c225WH (Link to this contribution)

I am listening to my hon. Friend’s arguments carefully. Would it be a good idea for the Governmen...

Chris Bryant | 561 cc225-6WH (Link to this contribution)

We tend to like opinion polls when we agree with them; if they do not quite agree with us, we dis...

Steve Barclay | 561 c226WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Chris Bryant | 561 c226WH (Link to this contribution)

I will not, if the hon. Gentleman does not mind, because we have to hear the Minister, and we do ...

Mark Harper | 561 cc226-231WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth, in the second half of the de...

Mark Pritchard | 561 cc231-2WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to conclude this debate under your chairmanship, Mr Howarth. I am grateful to a...

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