Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill
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I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
Mr Speaker, you and I know that eve...
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Will the right hon. Lady give the House a cast-iron guarantee that, if the Bill becomes law, no r...
The right hon. Gentleman pre-empts some of the later parts of my contribution. I can tell him tha...
Is my right hon. Friend aware of the letter that was written to hon. Members by Lord Carey of Cli...
My hon. Friend will know that there is already no legal requirement for consummation. Our provisi...
Will the Minister take this early opportunity to confirm that the opponents of the Bill, includin...
My hon. Friend makes his point very well.
I very much support the Bill, but I regret that it is being programmed. Consideration should be o...
My hon. Friend knows that I take these matters very seriously indeed. We have to ensure that ther...
I should like to make a little more progress. I will take some more interventions in a moment.
Will the Minister bear in mind the fact that there was a great deal of opposition to the decrimin...
I am sure the hon. Gentleman is right in what he says. What we have to do is not just legislate f...
I am going to support the Bill tonight because I think the principle is right: I am not sure why ...
The hon. Gentleman will know that many religious organisations have expressed an interest in bein...
If hon. Members will allow me to make a little more progress, I shall take more interventions lat...
I will vote for the Bill’s Second Reading because I support the principle that the Minister has j...
My right hon. Friend is right to raise this issue. What I can do is reassure him that we have bee...
On religious organisations, the Minister will know that 5% of the UK population is Muslim. What p...
My hon. Friend will know that this issue is not about numbers; it is about working together and p...
I very much welcome the Bill, but does the Minister understand the disappointment of those who be...
I can give the hon. Lady complete reassurance today that this Bill is not in any way trying to tr...
If hon. Members will allow me to make a little more progress, we can have further interventions l...
Will the right hon. Lady assure us that, if at any time in the future the European Court of Human...
My hon. Friend will find the sort of detail and the assurances he is looking for in a later part ...
The right hon. Lady is absolutely right about the importance of faith. I as a Christian have no w...
The hon. Gentleman makes a powerful point, which shows that views on this matter do not follow pa...
Let me make a tiny bit of progress before taking further interventions.
I shall now deal wi...
Will the Minister explain why the Government are bringing this Bill forward now when it was not i...
The right hon. Gentleman and I will have to disagree on that. What we are doing is clearly an imp...
The Minister has referred to the protections in the Bill, but we have already seen the case of Mr...
My hon. Friend, who I know takes a deep interest in these matters, is entirely right to raise tha...
The Minister has spoken about protections for religious ministers. Can she offer the same protect...
As my hon. Friend will know, civil registrars are public servants. Recent court rulings have made...
Roman Catholic Spain legalised same-sex marriage in 2005. Does my right hon. Friend know whether ...
None that I am aware of.
My right hon. Friend failed to answer the question put by the right hon. Member for Belfast North...
My fellow Hampshire Member and I know that we disagree on this matter, but we do so in a very fai...
I think that I should make a little more progress. I will take further interventions in a moment....
Our sexuality is fundamental to who we are. Surely the crux of the debate is the question of whet...
My hon. Friend has made her point very powerfully. We need to ensure that, as a society, we treat...
My right hon. Friend is making a powerful case for religious freedom. Did she observe the Church ...
I am glad that my hon. Friend was able to make that point, because I do not want anyone to leave ...
I hope that Members will forgive me if I make a little more progress. As you have said, Mr. Speak...
Can my right hon. Friend think of anything in the Bill that would harm or disadvantage any hetero...
No, I believe that strengthening marriage in the way we are talking about will be of benefit to a...
My right hon. Friend has made it clear that she would not introduce a Bill to this House if it in...
The Church of England itself has made clear the importance of keeping the protections that we hav...
One key issue that has been raised with me is how schools, particularly faith schools, will handl...
The hon. Gentleman is right to bring that out in more detail. He will, of course, have read the E...
I cannot say no to my hon. Friend, but then I must wind up my remarks.
I am most grateful to my right hon. Friend, who has taken a lot of interventions. She says that n...
My hon. Friend will know that clear provisions are already in place for faith groups and faith sc...
If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I will conclude in order to give individuals the time to m...
I welcome the speech by the Minister for Women and Equalities and commend her on the manner in wh...
During the passage of the Civil Partnership Bill in 2004, my hon. Friend the Member for Gainsboro...
My hon. Friend the Member for Rhondda has since celebrated his own civil partnership as a result ...
The right hon. Lady talks about equality, so why are Labour Members not arguing in favour of hete...
That is a separate issue, on which there was no consultation. I am sure that there will be a deba...
Is not the essential point that what was once the love that dared not speak its name will now hav...
My hon. Friend is completely right to say that this Parliament should have pride in giving people...
Does my right hon. Friend agree that the institution of marriage can only be strengthened if in f...
My hon. Friend is right. Couples who love each other should be able to get married, regardless of...
Does the right hon. Lady agree that, in this wonderful, tolerant and free society we live in, rea...
We should certainly celebrate the chance for people to get married. We should celebrate the fact ...
The right hon. Lady is asking us to accept her party’s bona fides in respecting religious freedom...
I do not think it is right for individual views within individual faiths to all be protected char...
Does the right hon. Lady not agree that she is confusing marriage with weddings? They are differe...
I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman is so gloomy about the fun of a wedding, which most of us thin...
Does my right hon. Friend recognise that many of the people who argued strongly and passionately ...
My hon. Friend is right. Members of this House who opposed civil partnerships now strongly suppor...
I shall give way to the hon. Gentleman, but then I want to make a little progress.
I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for giving way, but the facts paint a very different picture...
If the hon. Gentleman looks at the long-term trends in marriage across a series of different coun...
I am delighted to support the debate and that I will be voting for the Bill, partly because I hav...
My hon. Friend is right. One poll showed that two thirds of people overall supported same-sex mar...
There has been a lot of talk about equality and fairness from Members on both sides of the House....
The hon. Gentleman obviously has some detail in mind. The fundamental principle behind the Bill i...
Does my right hon. Friend, like me, hope that the House will approach this matter with a sense of...
My right hon. Friend is right that there has been immense discrimination over many years, includi...
I want to make some progress, as I am conscious that many hon. Members want to speak and that the...
I will give way to the hon. Gentleman later, as I promised to do so to other Members first.
I should like to draw out the central issue, which is the understanding of marriage. The right ho...
I understand the point that the hon. Gentleman is making. I will deal specifically with whether e...
In 2004, I voted enthusiastically for the Civil Partnership Bill. The right hon. Lady did not at ...
I have addressed that point before. I have always strongly supported civil partnerships: I think ...
I need to make progress, as other hon. Members wish to make a contribution. However, I shall give...
Something that I have detected in correspondence is a fear that, contrary to the assurances that ...
I think that freedom of religion—an issue about which many hon. Members have expressed concern—is...
Does the right hon. Lady accept that there is a kind of inevitability about what many of us are h...
The right hon. and learned Gentleman is right that this is the next step on a journey, and it is ...
We have discriminated for too long. Until the 1960s people were locked up or punished for loving ...
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Labour in government equalised the age of consent, ended the ban on LGBT people serving in our ar...
On that point, will my right hon. Friend give way?
I give way, one final time, to my hon. Friend.
Would it not be appropriate on this day, when we are debating this subject, to bear in mind, amon...
My hon. Friend is right. As a society we should feel deeply ashamed of what happened to Alan Turi...
Will the right hon. Lady give way?
On a point of order, Mr Speaker.
I hope it is not a point of frustration from the hon. Gentleman.
The right hon. Lady has taken an intervention from her hon. Friend. When will she take an interve...
I note the point. It is not a point of order but the hon. Gentleman has put it on the record.
...May I say to the hon. Member for Monmouth (David T. C. Davies) that I have taken interventions fr...
Order. The Second Church Estates Commissioner, who has designated responsibilities in the House, ...
I am confident that we are all created in the image of God, whether we be straight, gay, bisexual...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I shall not give way because I am conscious that a large number of colleagues wish to speak in th...
I am deeply saddened by the divisions and upset that this issue has caused to people on both side...
As an atheist, I enjoyed the right to get married outside the Church. Surely those who do believe...
I will come to that in a moment.
Perhaps the parts of society that do not view civil partne...
Does my hon. Friend accept that the state has intervened in marriage for several reasons, one of ...
I fully accept that the state has changed some aspects of marriage, but not its intrinsic, fundam...
It is a pleasure to follow such a wise speech by the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent South (Robert...
Today is a significant day for Britain as an equal nation. Today is about equality, but it is als...
My hon. Friend is making a brilliant speech. Does he agree that this is about equal respect for e...
Absolutely. I have never said this in political terms before, but at the end of her life my mothe...
Does my hon. Friend agree that there are many strands to the views of the religious community? On...
Indeed. That is an incredibly important point. This whole debate reminds me of a colleague on Che...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Chesterfield (Toby Perkins), who has articulated w...
I congratulate the hon. Member for St Austell and Newquay (Stephen Gilbert) on his honest and ope...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Heywood and Middleton (Jim Dobbin), with whose spe...
May I suggest very gently to the hon. Gentleman that what he has just suggested is profoundly off...
The argument is not mine, but that of an eminent lawyer in this House. Its merit is that it would...
indicated dissent.
The hon. Gentleman may seek to bat my argument away, but I promise him that in this House and out...
A man called Mr Proctor came to my surgery two weeks ago. He had never been to see an MP before, ...
Marriage is one of the most important institutions in our society. It concerns many of us that it...
My right hon. Friend says that that attitude is in decline, but does he agree that although achie...
I strongly agree with my hon. Friend.
I believe that many who do not share that view nevert...
I would like to praise the right hon. Gentleman’s advocacy of the cause of equal marriage—and giv...
I agree with the hon. Gentleman that this is an institution that should now be open to all.
May I say what a privilege it is to follow that excellent speech.
Given the time constraint...
Four minutes are not enough to lay out an argument about this matter, so let me set out some grou...
As always, I am listening carefully to my hon. Friend. In so much as the Bill is an answer to any...
My hon. Friend makes a good point, which returns to a point raised earlier. This should be about ...
I rise strongly to support this Bill as a practising Christian who now worships in the Church in ...
We should indeed treat one another with tolerance and treat everybody’s sexuality with understand...
I am happy to give way to the hon. Gentleman who gave those assurances to me.
Assurances from me do not necessarily determine what happens in Parliament in future. Several hon...
The worry some of us have is that the world, in the hon. Gentleman’s mind, could move on again, a...
In respect of Parliament being sovereign, it matters not what anybody says in any debate, because...
That is precisely what I want to talk about —the nature of marriage.
The catechism of the R...
All hon. Members have had many letters from constituents about the Bill. One I received came from...
The hon. Gentleman is making a powerful case against discrimination. Does he agree that one group...
The hon. Lady makes an excellent point that I am happy to agree with. I hope that changes will be...
It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Croydon North (Steve Reed). I feel a certain distre...
Has the hon. Lady, like me, been particularly angered and frustrated by the tactics of the campai...
The hon. Lady makes the point far better than I could have done. The Coalition for Marriage and s...
The hon. Lady is making a powerful speech. Does she agree that many European countries that are m...
The hon. Lady is absolutely right. In fact, there was a case from Austria in 2010, Schalk and Kop...
It is a great privilege to stand here today in the greatest seat of democracy in the world. I am ...
Does the hon. Gentleman share my puzzlement that this proposal was in nobody’s manifesto? Indeed,...
I understand exactly how the hon. Lady feels. I would feel the same if I were a Tory.
The q...
I am grateful for the tone of the debate so far, including from the Minister for Women and Equali...
Will the right hon. Gentleman therefore be voting against the timetable and carry-over motions th...
I will be voting against the timetable motion for just that reason, but I shall support the Bill....
I am pleased to hear about the right hon. Gentleman’s conversion. Will he take this opportunity t...
I have apologised to him both publicly and privately. I was on a platform with him the other day,...
I, too, welcome the tenor of this debate, as Members clearly have different opinions about same-s...
Order. Time is up. I call Craig Whittaker.
3.13 pm
Throughout all the debates and controversies surrounding the same-sex marriage proposals, recogni...
It is a huge privilege to be called to speak in this historic debate.
When I was a first-ti...
The level of interest in this subject, and the respect that has been shown by Members on both sid...
I want to set out misgivings about the Bill. I am not going to vote against it, because I do not ...
May I point out that the Church of England has never been the custodian of marriage in Scotland?<...
My hon. Friend is absolutely right.
The 1662 version of the Church of England service, whic...
My right hon. Friend was at my wedding. I was not young when I got married, and unless I had been...
No, I am certainly not. I was delighted to attend my hon. Friend’s wedding. The reason that I hav...
I am following my right hon. Friend’s argument about the importance of marriage for children. Is ...
I am not saying either of those things; I am simply making the point that it remains the ideal fo...
It is quite obvious from the tenor of this debate that this proposed legislation presents many pr...
Does my right hon. Friend share my puzzlement at why the Prime Minister referred specifically to ...
There have been many conflicting messages coming out of the Government, and my hon. Friend has ju...
Does my right hon. Friend accept that some of us may find ourselves having to abstain, even thoug...
I am glad I allowed my hon. Friend to intervene, because I think she has spoken for many people o...
Having listened carefully to the representations I have received from constituents on both sides ...
Does not the way in which the Bill is drafted protect the Church’s view of marriage, and, indeed,...
I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We have neighbouring constituents, and the representations ...
Last Saturday I went to the opening of an exhibition at M Shed, a museum in Bristol, entitled Out...
Does my hon. Friend agree with the gay people who have approached me, who feel that the vows of c...
I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. The introduction of civil partnerships was an import...
It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bristol West (Stephen Williams), who spoke p...
I thought long and hard about seeking to speak in the debate. I feared the tone of it and how col...
Will my hon. Friend give way?
No, I will not.
Such colleagues need to remember that this involves peoples’ lives and we s...
I well remember the days when same-sex couples were denied basic rights: next of kin and relation...
Does the hon. Gentleman know of any case in any EU country where same-sex marriage is allowed in ...
I am grateful for that intervention, because I am going to deal with that point right now.
...
If we project forward into the future, is it not also the case that some Churches may change thei...
That may very well be the case, but my proposition, which separates a recognition of unions and p...
It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow (Mr...
Would my hon. Friend sum up the conundrum by saying that it is the tyranny of the usual channels ...
The suggestion that I could ever criticise the Whips is outrageous. Our problem is that Parliamen...
Does my hon. Friend agree that there has been a breach of precedent? A Bill dealing with an issue...
I am grateful for my hon. Friend’s intervention. I hope, if I have time, to deal with that import...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, I am sorry—I want other Members to have a chance to speak.
I have a simple solution to ...
I apologise for missing part of the debate. I have been in a Public Bill Committee.
I want ...
I was a primary teacher when section 28 came into force. The class I taught in Peckham had childr...
I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We have a chance to extend the rights that we enjoy to othe...
I first put on record my appreciation of the Coalition for Marriage, which has done a fantastic j...
Does my hon. Friend agree that we should have had, at the very least, a draft Bill and pre-legisl...
Absolutely. This goes to the heart of the point that, as Conservatives, we are traditionally caut...
The majority of the population do not seem to care very much about what we are talking about toda...
Yes, I do agree with my hon. and gallant Friend. Overwhelmingly, the letters and e-mails that I h...
I hope that one day, we will live in a truly equal society in which there is little or no discrim...
My hon. Friend is making a powerful point and one that we should hear more of. Does she agree tha...
I would love to have more time and my hon. Friend has given me a little extra.
It is also i...
My hon. Friend is making a good speech. Let me take her back to the point about homophobia and ho...
Today is indeed an opportunity to celebrate the progress that we have made, but as I said at the ...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
No, I will not—I will not get any more time, so it is not in my interests.
Many European co...
I shall be voting against this Bill because I am a Conservative, and also because an overwhelming...
My hon. Friend raises a good point about the constituency postbag that many of us have received. ...
Order. We must have shorter interventions on the grounds that everybody wants to contribute. It i...
I cannot answer for my hon. Friend’s constituents but I know that my constituency has the highest...
Does my hon. Friend also think it is outrageous that the Committee stage is not being taken on th...
Absolutely, and we should have had two days for the Second Reading debate. I am at odds with the ...
I agree with the hon. Member for Christchurch (Mr Chope) on the principle of equality for civil p...
I am very disappointed to have to rise to oppose the Bill. I never imagined that I would be put i...
I am sure that, like me, my hon. Friend will be saddened to hear that many colleagues in this Hou...
I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. That is most regrettable.
The assumption of th...
I want to say to the Minister for Women and Equalities that I was the Minister who took through t...
Does my right hon. Friend agree that the introduction of section 28 set back the debate, and that...
My hon. Friend is right. It was a moment—a great stain on the House—when we turned on an importan...
It is a privilege to be listening to my right hon. Friend’s extraordinary and impassioned perorat...
I totally accept the manner in which my hon. Friend has put his remarks, and it saddens me that I...
My views on marriage stem from my Christian faith, and I want to thank Members for the respect I ...
On religious freedoms, is the hon. Lady aware that after Denmark changed its laws, churches there...
I note that with interest, and hope to comment on it later.
What of the church youth leader...
I am sure the hon. Lady will know that the Book of Common Prayer says that one of the three reaso...
It is ironic that, although the Government say that they want to promote commitment and equality,...
I hope that I shall be able to prove to the hon. Member for Braintree (Mr Newmark) that one does ...
Order. I think he is a right hon. Member.
I want to pay a special tribute to the right hon. Member for Rutland and Melton (Mr Duncan) becau...
I will be generous and give the Government credit for the title of the Bill. It is about marriage...
I thank my hon. Friend for the sincere way in which he is putting, and has put, his arguments. Do...
I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Let us be clear about this, because different things have been s...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way.
I will not.
The position was well summed up by Ben Summerskill, the chief executive of Ston...
I am on a different side of the argument from my hon. Friend, but I have known him for many years...
I do not have a monopoly on victimhood. The homosexual community has been subject to abuse which,...
I rise to oppose the legislation presented by Her Majesty’s Government involving the redefinition...
Does my hon. Friend agree that thousands of teachers across this country could find themselves on...
I thank my hon. Friend for that timely intervention. In recent times, I have witnessed intoleranc...
Is my hon. Friend aware that the minister of Holy Trinity church, Brompton approached the Governm...
I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention, and I will deal with that point in a moment.
Let me preface my comments by saying that although I have a lot of respect for the right hon. Mem...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
No, because I do not have time.
This is a major issue of civil liberties and the orthodox C...
It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Peterborough (Mr Jackson). I certainly agree with...
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak. There is no doubt that this has been a vigorous debat...
I support the Second Reading of the Bill on the basis that it is the fundamental right of all peo...
There is a Bill before the other House to pardon Alan Turing. We probably would not be here debat...
Whether Members care to admit it or not, there is a natural, a biological and indeed a scriptural...
Is not love the fundamental concept of marriage?
I appreciate the hon. Lady making that point, because it echoes one made by those on the Governme...
I do not think that homosexuals are looking for the law to provide love for any of us. The hon. G...
The hon. Gentleman makes my exact point. Both the Government and the Opposition have claimed, as ...
It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to make a brief contribution to this debate.
To re...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Battersea (Jane Ellison).
Today’s debate is ...
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that there is massive support for the legislation in Scotl...
I am grateful for that intervention, but I urge the hon. Gentleman to check clause 10, parts 2 an...
This afternoon hundreds of Members of Parliament have come into the Chamber to discuss marriage. ...
We have heard many claims that the Government are introducing this legislation to make marriage f...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
No, I will not because I would like to get through my speech.
This legislation would create...
I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman. He talks about the unchanging nature of marriage o...
Order. We are grateful to the hon. Gentleman but interventions must be brief.
I am grateful for that intervention, particularly as it gives me an extra minute, but I will come...
The primary commandment is to love the Lord my God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. I ...
Three days before.
Three days before, as my hon. Friend says. Those who say that there was not a codicil, at least, ...
I will try, in this shortened time, to vary my comments. I have a deep respect for so many hon. M...
Some people say that the Bill is just about semantics, but semantics matter and words express the...
I am a Catholic and religious freedoms are very important to me, as is my religion, but so too ar...
I am delighted to hear that intervention from my hon. Friend. I advocate that Members support the...
In supporting that point, I am sure my hon. Friend is aware of the book “Animal Farm”, in which a...
I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We need to distinguish between civil marriage in the eyes o...
Like most hon. Members, I have thought long and hard about this issue. I am a keen proponent of e...
Many Members have already spoken powerfully and I have nothing to add to that expression of feeli...
In some ways, this is the most difficult issue that I have faced in my two and a half years as an...
I support the Bill, and I would like to compliment Members on the tone of the debate and on some ...
If a majority of Conservative Members go through the No Lobby tonight or abstain, does that not s...
I do not agree with that. What it demonstrates is that a modern Conservative Prime Minister has p...
Sorry, Eric.
We need to respect those of religious faith, but I believe that this is right....
It is a privilege to take part in the debate. Speeches of high quality have been made by Members ...
The debate goes to the heart of our 21st-century dilemma. In Parliament we rightly advocate equal...
I am grateful for having caught your eye, Mr Speaker. You know, Sir, that although it caused the ...
I was pleased and proud early on in the discussions, when the consultation document was launched,...
It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman). I pay tribut...
I shall carry on, because other colleagues wish to speak.
I do not agree that this is about...
I welcome the opportunity and the privilege of taking part in this important debate. I often reca...
This is one of the finest debates that I have ever had the privilege of listening to, with outsta...
I think you said at the beginning of the debate, Mr Speaker, that 71 Back Benchers were going to ...
Order. I know it has been a long debate, but the hon. Gentleman must be heard, and with courtesy,...
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
The democratic process should protect those with deeply felt and sin...
We have heard many deeply felt speeches representing a very wide range of views. Given that we ha...
By our calculations, there have been more than 70 speeches this afternoon. This has been a lively...
My hon. Friend says that this has been a lively and passionate debate. Would the Government consi...
I entirely understand my hon. Friend’s point. There is a procedural issue, which is that many of ...
No, I am afraid that I will not be able to take any more interventions.
At the heart of thi...
On a point of order, Mr Speaker. On the Floor of the House today, we heard many times that the Bi...
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her attempted point of order. Her point might be interesting, ...