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Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 5 February 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Maria Miller.
Second reading debate agreed on division (400 to 175). Programme motion agreed on division (499 to 55). Money resolution agreed on division (481 to 34). Carry over motion agreed on division (464 to 38). Bill committed to a Public Bill Committee.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
558 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill 2012-13
Thursday, 24 January 2013
Bills
House of Commons
Marriage
Tuesday, 12 February 2013
Written questions
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
John Bercow | 558 c125 (Link to this contribution)

There is a four-minute limit on Back-Bench speeches, and 71 Members want to speak. We will do our...

Maria Miller | 558 c125 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Mr Speaker, you and I know that eve...


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Gerald Kaufman | 558 c125 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give the House a cast-iron guarantee that, if the Bill becomes law, no r...

Maria Miller | 558 c125 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman pre-empts some of the later parts of my contribution. I can tell him tha...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 558 c125 (Link to this contribution)

Is my right hon. Friend aware of the letter that was written to hon. Members by Lord Carey of Cli...

Maria Miller | 558 cc125-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that there is already no legal requirement for consummation. Our provisi...

Matthew Offord | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister take this early opportunity to confirm that the opponents of the Bill, includin...

Maria Miller | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes his point very well.

Charles Walker | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

I very much support the Bill, but I regret that it is being programmed. Consideration should be o...

Maria Miller | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend knows that I take these matters very seriously indeed. We have to ensure that ther...

Maria Miller | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

I should like to make a little more progress. I will take some more interventions in a moment.

David Winnick | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister bear in mind the fact that there was a great deal of opposition to the decrimin...

Maria Miller | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the hon. Gentleman is right in what he says. What we have to do is not just legislate f...

Steve McCabe | 558 c126 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to support the Bill tonight because I think the principle is right: I am not sure why ...

Maria Miller | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will know that many religious organisations have expressed an interest in bein...

Maria Miller | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

If hon. Members will allow me to make a little more progress, I shall take more interventions lat...

Simon Hughes | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

I will vote for the Bill’s Second Reading because I support the principle that the Minister has j...

Maria Miller | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right to raise this issue. What I can do is reassure him that we have bee...

Rehman Chishti | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

On religious organisations, the Minister will know that 5% of the UK population is Muslim. What p...

Maria Miller | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that this issue is not about numbers; it is about working together and p...

Caroline Lucas | 558 c127 (Link to this contribution)

I very much welcome the Bill, but does the Minister understand the disappointment of those who be...

Maria Miller | 558 c128 (Link to this contribution)

I can give the hon. Lady complete reassurance today that this Bill is not in any way trying to tr...

Maria Miller | 558 c128 (Link to this contribution)

If hon. Members will allow me to make a little more progress, we can have further interventions l...

David TC Davies | 558 c128 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady assure us that, if at any time in the future the European Court of Human...

Maria Miller | 558 c128 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will find the sort of detail and the assurances he is looking for in a later part ...

Toby Perkins | 558 c128 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is absolutely right about the importance of faith. I as a Christian have no w...

Maria Miller | 558 c128 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a powerful point, which shows that views on this matter do not follow pa...

Maria Miller | 558 c129 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make a tiny bit of progress before taking further interventions.

I shall now deal wi...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 558 c129 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister explain why the Government are bringing this Bill forward now when it was not i...

Maria Miller | 558 c129 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman and I will have to disagree on that. What we are doing is clearly an imp...

Andrew Selous | 558 c129 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has referred to the protections in the Bill, but we have already seen the case of Mr...

Maria Miller | 558 c129 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, who I know takes a deep interest in these matters, is entirely right to raise tha...

Duncan Hames | 558 c129 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has spoken about protections for religious ministers. Can she offer the same protect...

Maria Miller | 558 c130 (Link to this contribution)

As my hon. Friend will know, civil registrars are public servants. Recent court rulings have made...

Mike Freer | 558 c130 (Link to this contribution)

Roman Catholic Spain legalised same-sex marriage in 2005. Does my right hon. Friend know whether ...

Gerald Howarth | 558 c130 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend failed to answer the question put by the right hon. Member for Belfast North...

Maria Miller | 558 c130 (Link to this contribution)

My fellow Hampshire Member and I know that we disagree on this matter, but we do so in a very fai...

Maria Miller | 558 cc130-1 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I should make a little more progress. I will take further interventions in a moment....

Sarah Wollaston | 558 c131 (Link to this contribution)

Our sexuality is fundamental to who we are. Surely the crux of the debate is the question of whet...

Maria Miller | 558 c131 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made her point very powerfully. We need to ensure that, as a society, we treat...

Margot James | 558 c131 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a powerful case for religious freedom. Did she observe the Church ...

Maria Miller | 558 c131 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that my hon. Friend was able to make that point, because I do not want anyone to leave ...

Maria Miller | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that Members will forgive me if I make a little more progress. As you have said, Mr. Speak...

Angela Watkinson | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

Can my right hon. Friend think of anything in the Bill that would harm or disadvantage any hetero...

Maria Miller | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

No, I believe that strengthening marriage in the way we are talking about will be of benefit to a...

David Burrowes | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has made it clear that she would not introduce a Bill to this House if it in...

Maria Miller | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

The Church of England itself has made clear the importance of keeping the protections that we hav...

David Wright | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

One key issue that has been raised with me is how schools, particularly faith schools, will handl...

Maria Miller | 558 c132 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right to bring that out in more detail. He will, of course, have read the E...

Maria Miller | 558 c133 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot say no to my hon. Friend, but then I must wind up my remarks.

Julian Brazier | 558 c133 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my right hon. Friend, who has taken a lot of interventions. She says that n...

Maria Miller | 558 c133 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that clear provisions are already in place for faith groups and faith sc...

Maria Miller | 558 c133 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I will conclude in order to give individuals the time to m...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c133 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the speech by the Minister for Women and Equalities and commend her on the manner in wh...

Philip Davies | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

During the passage of the Civil Partnership Bill in 2004, my hon. Friend the Member for Gainsboro...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend the Member for Rhondda has since celebrated his own civil partnership as a result ...

Christopher Chope | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady talks about equality, so why are Labour Members not arguing in favour of hete...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

That is a separate issue, on which there was no consultation. I am sure that there will be a deba...

Kevin Brennan | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the essential point that what was once the love that dared not speak its name will now hav...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is completely right to say that this Parliament should have pride in giving people...

Jack Dromey | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that the institution of marriage can only be strengthened if in f...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c134 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. Couples who love each other should be able to get married, regardless of...

Nadine Dorries | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Lady agree that, in this wonderful, tolerant and free society we live in, rea...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

We should certainly celebrate the chance for people to get married. We should celebrate the fact ...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady is asking us to accept her party’s bona fides in respecting religious freedom...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think it is right for individual views within individual faiths to all be protected char...

Mark Pawsey | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Lady not agree that she is confusing marriage with weddings? They are differe...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman is so gloomy about the fun of a wedding, which most of us thin...

Toby Perkins | 558 c135 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend recognise that many of the people who argued strongly and passionately ...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c136 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. Members of this House who opposed civil partnerships now strongly suppor...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c136 (Link to this contribution)

I shall give way to the hon. Gentleman, but then I want to make a little progress.

Ian Jnr Paisley | 558 c136 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for giving way, but the facts paint a very different picture...

Yvette Cooper | 558 cc136-7 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman looks at the long-term trends in marriage across a series of different coun...

Lucy Powell | 558 c137 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to support the debate and that I will be voting for the Bill, partly because I hav...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c137 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. One poll showed that two thirds of people overall supported same-sex mar...

Craig Whittaker | 558 c137 (Link to this contribution)

There has been a lot of talk about equality and fairness from Members on both sides of the House....

Yvette Cooper | 558 c137 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman obviously has some detail in mind. The fundamental principle behind the Bill i...

David Lammy | 558 c137 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend, like me, hope that the House will approach this matter with a sense of...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c137 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right that there has been immense discrimination over many years, includi...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make some progress, as I am conscious that many hon. Members want to speak and that the...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Gentleman later, as I promised to do so to other Members first.

David Burrowes | 558 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I should like to draw out the central issue, which is the understanding of marriage. The right ho...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c139 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the point that the hon. Gentleman is making. I will deal specifically with whether e...

Tim Loughton | 558 c139 (Link to this contribution)

In 2004, I voted enthusiastically for the Civil Partnership Bill. The right hon. Lady did not at ...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c139 (Link to this contribution)

I have addressed that point before. I have always strongly supported civil partnerships: I think ...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c139 (Link to this contribution)

I need to make progress, as other hon. Members wish to make a contribution. However, I shall give...

Jim Cunningham | 558 c139 (Link to this contribution)

Something that I have detected in correspondence is a fear that, contrary to the assurances that ...

Yvette Cooper | 558 cc139-141 (Link to this contribution)

I think that freedom of religion—an issue about which many hon. Members have expressed concern—is...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 558 c141 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Lady accept that there is a kind of inevitability about what many of us are h...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c141 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. and learned Gentleman is right that this is the next step on a journey, and it is ...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c141 (Link to this contribution)

We have discriminated for too long. Until the 1960s people were locked up or punished for loving ...

David Winnick | 558 c141 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Yvette Cooper | 558 c141 (Link to this contribution)

Labour in government equalised the age of consent, ended the ban on LGBT people serving in our ar...

David Winnick | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will my right hon. Friend give way?

Yvette Cooper | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I give way, one final time, to my hon. Friend.

David Winnick | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

Would it not be appropriate on this day, when we are debating this subject, to bear in mind, amon...

Yvette Cooper | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. As a society we should feel deeply ashamed of what happened to Alan Turi...

David TC Davies | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

John Bercow | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I hope it is not a point of frustration from the hon. Gentleman.

David TC Davies | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady has taken an intervention from her hon. Friend. When will she take an interve...

John Bercow | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

I note the point. It is not a point of order but the hon. Gentleman has put it on the record.

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Yvette Cooper | 558 c142 (Link to this contribution)

May I say to the hon. Member for Monmouth (David T. C. Davies) that I have taken interventions fr...

John Bercow | 558 c143 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The Second Church Estates Commissioner, who has designated responsibilities in the House, ...

Tony Baldry | 558 cc143-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am confident that we are all created in the image of God, whether we be straight, gay, bisexual...

Roger Williams | 558 c144 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Tony Baldry | 558 cc144-5 (Link to this contribution)

I shall not give way because I am conscious that a large number of colleagues wish to speak in th...

Robert Flello | 558 c145 (Link to this contribution)

I am deeply saddened by the divisions and upset that this issue has caused to people on both side...

Angela C Smith | 558 c145 (Link to this contribution)

As an atheist, I enjoyed the right to get married outside the Church. Surely those who do believe...

Robert Flello | 558 cc145-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that in a moment.

Perhaps the parts of society that do not view civil partne...

Sandra Osborne | 558 c146 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend accept that the state has intervened in marriage for several reasons, one of ...

Robert Flello | 558 cc146-7 (Link to this contribution)

I fully accept that the state has changed some aspects of marriage, but not its intrinsic, fundam...

Nadine Dorries | 558 cc147-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow such a wise speech by the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent South (Robert...

Toby Perkins | 558 c148 (Link to this contribution)

Today is a significant day for Britain as an equal nation. Today is about equality, but it is als...

Alison McGovern | 558 c148 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a brilliant speech. Does he agree that this is about equal respect for e...

Toby Perkins | 558 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I have never said this in political terms before, but at the end of her life my mothe...

Gloria De Piero | 558 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that there are many strands to the views of the religious community? On...

Toby Perkins | 558 c149 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. That is an incredibly important point. This whole debate reminds me of a colleague on Che...

Stephen Gilbert | 558 cc149-150 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Chesterfield (Toby Perkins), who has articulated w...

Jim Dobbin | 558 cc150-2 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for St Austell and Newquay (Stephen Gilbert) on his honest and ope...

Roger Gale | 558 c152 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Heywood and Middleton (Jim Dobbin), with whose spe...

Chris Bryant | 558 c152 (Link to this contribution)

May I suggest very gently to the hon. Gentleman that what he has just suggested is profoundly off...

Roger Gale | 558 c152 (Link to this contribution)

The argument is not mine, but that of an eminent lawyer in this House. Its merit is that it would...

Roger Gale | 558 c153 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman may seek to bat my argument away, but I promise him that in this House and out...

Natascha Engel | 558 cc153-4 (Link to this contribution)

A man called Mr Proctor came to my surgery two weeks ago. He had never been to see an MP before, ...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 558 cc154-5 (Link to this contribution)

Marriage is one of the most important institutions in our society. It concerns many of us that it...

Crispin Blunt | 558 c155 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend says that that attitude is in decline, but does he agree that although achie...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 558 c155 (Link to this contribution)

I strongly agree with my hon. Friend.

I believe that many who do not share that view nevert...

Andy Sawford | 558 c155 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to praise the right hon. Gentleman’s advocacy of the cause of equal marriage—and giv...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 558 c155 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman that this is an institution that should now be open to all.

Ben Bradshaw | 558 cc155-7 (Link to this contribution)

May I say what a privilege it is to follow that excellent speech.

Given the time constraint...

Tim Loughton | 558 c157 (Link to this contribution)

Four minutes are not enough to lay out an argument about this matter, so let me set out some grou...

Steve Brine | 558 c157 (Link to this contribution)

As always, I am listening carefully to my hon. Friend. In so much as the Bill is an answer to any...

Tim Loughton | 558 cc157-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point, which returns to a point raised earlier. This should be about ...

Stephen Doughty | 558 cc158-160 (Link to this contribution)

I rise strongly to support this Bill as a practising Christian who now worships in the Church in ...

Edward Leigh | 558 c160 (Link to this contribution)

We should indeed treat one another with tolerance and treat everybody’s sexuality with understand...

Edward Leigh | 558 c160 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give way to the hon. Gentleman who gave those assurances to me.

Chris Bryant | 558 c160 (Link to this contribution)

Assurances from me do not necessarily determine what happens in Parliament in future. Several hon...

Edward Leigh | 558 c160 (Link to this contribution)

The worry some of us have is that the world, in the hon. Gentleman’s mind, could move on again, a...

Bernard Jenkin | 558 c160 (Link to this contribution)

In respect of Parliament being sovereign, it matters not what anybody says in any debate, because...

Edward Leigh | 558 cc160-2 (Link to this contribution)

That is precisely what I want to talk about —the nature of marriage.

The catechism of the R...

Steve Reed | 558 c162 (Link to this contribution)

All hon. Members have had many letters from constituents about the Bill. One I received came from...

Caroline Lucas | 558 c162 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a powerful case against discrimination. Does he agree that one group...

Steve Reed | 558 cc162-3 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an excellent point that I am happy to agree with. I hope that changes will be...

Margot James | 558 c163 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Croydon North (Steve Reed). I feel a certain distre...

Madeleine Moon | 558 c163 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Lady, like me, been particularly angered and frustrated by the tactics of the campai...

Margot James | 558 c163 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes the point far better than I could have done. The Coalition for Marriage and s...

Emma Reynolds | 558 c163 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a powerful speech. Does she agree that many European countries that are m...

Margot James | 558 c164 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is absolutely right. In fact, there was a case from Austria in 2010, Schalk and Kop...

Jim Shannon | 558 cc164-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great privilege to stand here today in the greatest seat of democracy in the world. I am ...

Anne Main | 558 c165 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman share my puzzlement that this proposal was in nobody’s manifesto? Indeed,...

Jim Shannon | 558 cc165-6 (Link to this contribution)

I understand exactly how the hon. Lady feels. I would feel the same if I were a Tory.

The q...

Simon Hughes | 558 c166 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the tone of the debate so far, including from the Minister for Women and Equali...

Christopher Chope | 558 c166 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman therefore be voting against the timetable and carry-over motions th...

Simon Hughes | 558 c166 (Link to this contribution)

I will be voting against the timetable motion for just that reason, but I shall support the Bill....

Matthew Offord | 558 c167 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to hear about the right hon. Gentleman’s conversion. Will he take this opportunity t...

Simon Hughes | 558 cc167-8 (Link to this contribution)

I have apologised to him both publicly and privately. I was on a platform with him the other day,...

Sandra Osborne | 558 cc168-9 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, welcome the tenor of this debate, as Members clearly have different opinions about same-s...

Nigel Evans | 558 c169 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Time is up. I call Craig Whittaker.

3.13 pm

Craig Whittaker | 558 cc169-170 (Link to this contribution)

Throughout all the debates and controversies surrounding the same-sex marriage proposals, recogni...

Susan Elan Jones | 558 cc170-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a huge privilege to be called to speak in this historic debate.

When I was a first-ti...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 558 cc171-2 (Link to this contribution)

The level of interest in this subject, and the respect that has been shown by Members on both sid...

Stephen Timms | 558 c172 (Link to this contribution)

I want to set out misgivings about the Bill. I am not going to vote against it, because I do not ...

Thomas Docherty | 558 c172 (Link to this contribution)

May I point out that the Church of England has never been the custodian of marriage in Scotland?<...

Stephen Timms | 558 c172 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right.

The 1662 version of the Church of England service, whic...

Lyn Brown | 558 c172 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend was at my wedding. I was not young when I got married, and unless I had been...

Stephen Timms | 558 cc172-3 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am certainly not. I was delighted to attend my hon. Friend’s wedding. The reason that I hav...

Madeleine Moon | 558 c173 (Link to this contribution)

I am following my right hon. Friend’s argument about the importance of marriage for children. Is ...

Stephen Timms | 558 c173 (Link to this contribution)

I am not saying either of those things; I am simply making the point that it remains the ideal fo...

Cheryl Gillan | 558 cc173-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is quite obvious from the tenor of this debate that this proposed legislation presents many pr...

Anne Main | 558 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend share my puzzlement at why the Prime Minister referred specifically to ...

Cheryl Gillan | 558 c174 (Link to this contribution)

There have been many conflicting messages coming out of the Government, and my hon. Friend has ju...

Baroness Bray of Coln | 558 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend accept that some of us may find ourselves having to abstain, even thoug...

Cheryl Gillan | 558 c174 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad I allowed my hon. Friend to intervene, because I think she has spoken for many people o...

Jonathan Reynolds | 558 cc174-5 (Link to this contribution)

Having listened carefully to the representations I have received from constituents on both sides ...

Andrew Gwynne | 558 c175 (Link to this contribution)

Does not the way in which the Bill is drafted protect the Church’s view of marriage, and, indeed,...

Jonathan Reynolds | 558 c176 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We have neighbouring constituents, and the representations ...

Stephen Williams | 558 c176 (Link to this contribution)

Last Saturday I went to the opening of an exhibition at M Shed, a museum in Bristol, entitled Out...

Angela Watkinson | 558 c176 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree with the gay people who have approached me, who feel that the vows of c...

Stephen Williams | 558 cc176-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. The introduction of civil partnerships was an import...

Helen Goodman | 558 cc177-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bristol West (Stephen Williams), who spoke p...

Mike Freer | 558 c178 (Link to this contribution)

I thought long and hard about seeking to speak in the debate. I feared the tone of it and how col...

Mike Freer | 558 cc178-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not.

Such colleagues need to remember that this involves peoples’ lives and we s...

Michael McCann | 558 cc179-180 (Link to this contribution)

I well remember the days when same-sex couples were denied basic rights: next of kin and relation...

Richard Graham | 558 c180 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman know of any case in any EU country where same-sex marriage is allowed in ...

Michael McCann | 558 c180 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention, because I am going to deal with that point right now.

...

Jane Ellison | 558 c180 (Link to this contribution)

If we project forward into the future, is it not also the case that some Churches may change thei...

Michael McCann | 558 cc180-1 (Link to this contribution)

That may very well be the case, but my proposition, which separates a recognition of unions and p...

Peter Bone | 558 c181 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow (Mr...

Christopher Chope | 558 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Would my hon. Friend sum up the conundrum by saying that it is the tyranny of the usual channels ...

Peter Bone | 558 c181 (Link to this contribution)

The suggestion that I could ever criticise the Whips is outrageous. Our problem is that Parliamen...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 558 c181 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that there has been a breach of precedent? A Bill dealing with an issue...

Peter Bone | 558 cc181-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for my hon. Friend’s intervention. I hope, if I have time, to deal with that import...

Stephen Pound | 558 c182 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Peter Bone | 558 c182 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am sorry—I want other Members to have a chance to speak.

I have a simple solution to ...

Steve McCabe | 558 cc182-3 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for missing part of the debate. I have been in a Public Bill Committee.

I want ...

Fiona Mactaggart | 558 c183 (Link to this contribution)

I was a primary teacher when section 28 came into force. The class I taught in Peckham had childr...

Steve McCabe | 558 c183 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We have a chance to extend the rights that we enjoy to othe...

Gerald Howarth | 558 cc183-4 (Link to this contribution)

I first put on record my appreciation of the Coalition for Marriage, which has done a fantastic j...

Christopher Chope | 558 c184 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that we should have had, at the very least, a draft Bill and pre-legisl...

Gerald Howarth | 558 c184 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. This goes to the heart of the point that, as Conservatives, we are traditionally caut...

Bob Stewart | 558 c184 (Link to this contribution)

The majority of the population do not seem to care very much about what we are talking about toda...

Gerald Howarth | 558 cc184-5 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I do agree with my hon. and gallant Friend. Overwhelmingly, the letters and e-mails that I h...

Emma Reynolds | 558 c185 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that one day, we will live in a truly equal society in which there is little or no discrim...

Stephen Pound | 558 c185 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a powerful point and one that we should hear more of. Does she agree tha...

Emma Reynolds | 558 c186 (Link to this contribution)

I would love to have more time and my hon. Friend has given me a little extra.

It is also i...

Baroness Keeley | 558 c186 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a good speech. Let me take her back to the point about homophobia and ho...

Emma Reynolds | 558 c186 (Link to this contribution)

Today is indeed an opportunity to celebrate the progress that we have made, but as I said at the ...

Emma Reynolds | 558 cc186-7 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not—I will not get any more time, so it is not in my interests.

Many European co...

Christopher Chope | 558 c187 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be voting against this Bill because I am a Conservative, and also because an overwhelming...

Brooks Newmark | 558 c187 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend raises a good point about the constituency postbag that many of us have received. ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 558 c187 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We must have shorter interventions on the grounds that everybody wants to contribute. It i...

Christopher Chope | 558 c188 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot answer for my hon. Friend’s constituents but I know that my constituency has the highest...

Gerald Howarth | 558 c188 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend also think it is outrageous that the Committee stage is not being taken on th...

Christopher Chope | 558 cc188-9 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely, and we should have had two days for the Second Reading debate. I am at odds with the ...

Mark Durkan | 558 cc189-190 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Member for Christchurch (Mr Chope) on the principle of equality for civil p...

John Glen | 558 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I am very disappointed to have to rise to oppose the Bill. I never imagined that I would be put i...

Anne Main | 558 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that, like me, my hon. Friend will be saddened to hear that many colleagues in this Hou...

John Glen | 558 cc190-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. That is most regrettable.

The assumption of th...

David Lammy | 558 c191 (Link to this contribution)

I want to say to the Minister for Women and Equalities that I was the Minister who took through t...

Emma Reynolds | 558 c191 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that the introduction of section 28 set back the debate, and that...

David Lammy | 558 cc191-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right. It was a moment—a great stain on the House—when we turned on an importan...

Stephen Pound | 558 c192 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to be listening to my right hon. Friend’s extraordinary and impassioned perorat...

David Lammy | 558 c193 (Link to this contribution)

I totally accept the manner in which my hon. Friend has put his remarks, and it saddens me that I...

Fiona Bruce | 558 c193 (Link to this contribution)

My views on marriage stem from my Christian faith, and I want to thank Members for the respect I ...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 558 c193 (Link to this contribution)

On religious freedoms, is the hon. Lady aware that after Denmark changed its laws, churches there...

Fiona Bruce | 558 cc193-4 (Link to this contribution)

I note that with interest, and hope to comment on it later.

What of the church youth leader...

Chris Bryant | 558 c194 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the hon. Lady will know that the Book of Common Prayer says that one of the three reaso...

Fiona Bruce | 558 cc194-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is ironic that, although the Government say that they want to promote commitment and equality,...

Anne McGuire | 558 c195 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that I shall be able to prove to the hon. Member for Braintree (Mr Newmark) that one does ...

Lindsay Hoyle | 558 c195 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I think he is a right hon. Member.

Anne McGuire | 558 cc195-6 (Link to this contribution)

I want to pay a special tribute to the right hon. Member for Rutland and Melton (Mr Duncan) becau...

David Burrowes | 558 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I will be generous and give the Government credit for the title of the Bill. It is about marriage...

Neil Parish | 558 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for the sincere way in which he is putting, and has put, his arguments. Do...

David Burrowes | 558 c196 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Let us be clear about this, because different things have been s...

Chris Bryant | 558 c196 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way.

David Burrowes | 558 cc196-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will not.

The position was well summed up by Ben Summerskill, the chief executive of Ston...

Charles Walker | 558 c197 (Link to this contribution)

I am on a different side of the argument from my hon. Friend, but I have known him for many years...

David Burrowes | 558 cc197-8 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have a monopoly on victimhood. The homosexual community has been subject to abuse which,...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 558 cc198-9 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to oppose the legislation presented by Her Majesty’s Government involving the redefinition...

Sammy Wilson | 558 c199 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that thousands of teachers across this country could find themselves on...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 558 c199 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that timely intervention. In recent times, I have witnessed intoleranc...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 558 c199 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that the minister of Holy Trinity church, Brompton approached the Governm...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 558 cc199-200 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention, and I will deal with that point in a moment.

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 558 cc200-1 (Link to this contribution)

Let me preface my comments by saying that although I have a lot of respect for the right hon. Mem...

Lord Beamish | 558 c201 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 558 c201 (Link to this contribution)

No, because I do not have time.

This is a major issue of civil liberties and the orthodox C...

David Simpson | 558 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Peterborough (Mr Jackson). I certainly agree with...

Stuart Andrew | 558 cc202-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak. There is no doubt that this has been a vigorous debat...

Geraint Davies | 558 cc203-4 (Link to this contribution)

I support the Second Reading of the Bill on the basis that it is the fundamental right of all peo...

Sarah Wollaston | 558 c204 (Link to this contribution)

There is a Bill before the other House to pardon Alan Turing. We probably would not be here debat...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 558 cc204-5 (Link to this contribution)

Whether Members care to admit it or not, there is a natural, a biological and indeed a scriptural...

Debbie Abrahams | 558 c205 (Link to this contribution)

Is not love the fundamental concept of marriage?

Ian Jnr Paisley | 558 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate the hon. Lady making that point, because it echoes one made by those on the Governme...

Chris Bryant | 558 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that homosexuals are looking for the law to provide love for any of us. The hon. G...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 558 cc205-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes my exact point. Both the Government and the Opposition have claimed, as ...

Jane Ellison | 558 cc206-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to have the opportunity to make a brief contribution to this debate.

To re...

William Bain | 558 cc207-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Battersea (Jane Ellison).

Today’s debate is ...

Pete Wishart | 558 c208 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that there is massive support for the legislation in Scotl...

William Bain | 558 cc208-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention, but I urge the hon. Gentleman to check clause 10, parts 2 an...

Andrew Selous | 558 cc209-210 (Link to this contribution)

This afternoon hundreds of Members of Parliament have come into the Chamber to discuss marriage. ...

Matthew Offord | 558 c210 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard many claims that the Government are introducing this legislation to make marriage f...

Tom Harris | 558 c210 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?

Matthew Offord | 558 c210 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not because I would like to get through my speech.

This legislation would create...

Tom Harris | 558 c210 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman. He talks about the unchanging nature of marriage o...

John Bercow | 558 c210 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We are grateful to the hon. Gentleman but interventions must be brief.

Matthew Offord | 558 cc210-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention, particularly as it gives me an extra minute, but I will come...

Peter Bottomley | 558 cc212-3 (Link to this contribution)

The primary commandment is to love the Lord my God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. I ...

Peter Bottomley | 558 c213 (Link to this contribution)

Three days before, as my hon. Friend says. Those who say that there was not a codicil, at least, ...

Eric Ollerenshaw | 558 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will try, in this shortened time, to vary my comments. I have a deep respect for so many hon. M...

Crispin Blunt | 558 cc214-5 (Link to this contribution)

Some people say that the Bill is just about semantics, but semantics matter and words express the...

Mark Menzies | 558 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I am a Catholic and religious freedoms are very important to me, as is my religion, but so too ar...

Crispin Blunt | 558 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear that intervention from my hon. Friend. I advocate that Members support the...

Brooks Newmark | 558 c215 (Link to this contribution)

In supporting that point, I am sure my hon. Friend is aware of the book “Animal Farm”, in which a...

Crispin Blunt | 558 cc215-6 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. We need to distinguish between civil marriage in the eyes o...

John Howell | 558 cc216-7 (Link to this contribution)

Like most hon. Members, I have thought long and hard about this issue. I am a keen proponent of e...

Ben Gummer | 558 c217 (Link to this contribution)

Many Members have already spoken powerfully and I have nothing to add to that expression of feeli...

Lord Barwell | 558 cc217-9 (Link to this contribution)

In some ways, this is the most difficult issue that I have faced in my two and a half years as an...

Kris Hopkins | 558 c219 (Link to this contribution)

I support the Bill, and I would like to compliment Members on the tone of the debate and on some ...

Lord Beamish | 558 c219 (Link to this contribution)

If a majority of Conservative Members go through the No Lobby tonight or abstain, does that not s...

Kris Hopkins | 558 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

I do not agree with that. What it demonstrates is that a modern Conservative Prime Minister has p...

Kris Hopkins | 558 c220 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, Eric.

We need to respect those of religious faith, but I believe that this is right....

Therese Coffey | 558 cc220-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to take part in the debate. Speeches of high quality have been made by Members ...

Andrea Leadsom | 558 cc221-2 (Link to this contribution)

The debate goes to the heart of our 21st-century dilemma. In Parliament we rightly advocate equal...

Richard Fuller | 558 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for having caught your eye, Mr Speaker. You know, Sir, that although it caused the ...

Bob Blackman | 558 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

I was pleased and proud early on in the discussions, when the consultation document was launched,...

Richard Drax | 558 c224 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman). I pay tribut...

Richard Drax | 558 cc224-5 (Link to this contribution)

I shall carry on, because other colleagues wish to speak.

I do not agree that this is about...

Iain Stewart | 558 c225 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity and the privilege of taking part in this important debate. I often reca...

Guy Opperman | 558 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)

This is one of the finest debates that I have ever had the privilege of listening to, with outsta...

Martin Vickers | 558 cc226-7 (Link to this contribution)

I think you said at the beginning of the debate, Mr Speaker, that 71 Back Benchers were going to ...

John Bercow | 558 c227 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I know it has been a long debate, but the hon. Gentleman must be heard, and with courtesy,...

Martin Vickers | 558 cc227-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker.

The democratic process should protect those with deeply felt and sin...

Kate Green | 558 cc228-9 (Link to this contribution)

We have heard many deeply felt speeches representing a very wide range of views. Given that we ha...

Hugh Robertson | 558 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)

By our calculations, there have been more than 70 speeches this afternoon. This has been a lively...

Gerald Howarth | 558 c230 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend says that this has been a lively and passionate debate. Would the Government consi...

Hugh Robertson | 558 c230 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely understand my hon. Friend’s point. There is a procedural issue, which is that many of ...

Hugh Robertson | 558 cc230-1 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am afraid that I will not be able to take any more interventions.

At the heart of thi...

Anne Main | 558 c231 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. On the Floor of the House today, we heard many times that the Bi...

John Bercow | 558 c231 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her attempted point of order. Her point might be interesting, ...

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