Debate on a motion that this House concurs with the Lords Message of 21 June, that it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to consider the draft Financial Services Bill presented to both Houses on 16 June (Cm 8083).
That a Select Committee of six Members be appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Lords to consider the draft Financial Services Bill presented to both Houses on 16 June (Cm 8083).
That the Committee should report on the draft Bill by 1 December 2011.
That the Committee shall have power—
(i) to send for persons, papers and records;
(ii) to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;
(iii) to report from time to time;
(iv) to appoint specialist advisers; and
(v) to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom.
That Mr Nicholas Brown, Mr David Laws, Mr Peter Lilley, David Mowat, Mr George Mudie and Mr David Ruffley be members of the Committee.
Debate stood adjourned for a division on a motion that, at this day's sitting, Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions) shall not apply to the Motion in the name of Sir George Young relating to Draft Financial Services Bill (Joint Committee). Agreed to on division (297 votes to 6).
Division on a motion that, at this day's sitting, Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions) shall not apply to the motion in the name of Sir George Young relating to Draft Financial Services Bill (Joint Committee). Agreed to on division (290 votes to 6).
Debate resumed.
Question put that an amendment be made. Amendment negatived. Main question put and agreed to.
Resolved,
That this House concurs with the Lords Message of 21 June, that it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to consider the draft Financial Services Bill presented to both Houses on 16 June (Cm 8083).
That a Select Committee of six Members be appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Lords to consider the draft Financial Services Bill presented to both Houses on 16 June (Cm 8083).
That the Committee should report on the draft Bill by 1 December 2011.
That the Committee shall have power—
(i) to send for persons, papers and records;
(ii) to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;
(iii) to report from time to time;
(iv) to appoint specialist advisers; and
(v) to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom.
That Mr Nicholas Brown, Mr David Laws, Mr Peter Lilley, David Mowat, Mr George Mudie and Mr David Ruffley be members of the Committee.
Draft Financial Services Bill (Joint Committee)
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
531 c719-45 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Draft Financial Services Bill. New approach to financial regulation: the blueprint for reform.
Thursday, 16 June 2011
Command papers
House of Commons
Thursday, 16 June 2011
Command papers
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 531 c735 (Link to this contribution)
The issue is whether there is an objection. There are matters that some people, including the right ...
Speaker | 531 c730 (Link to this contribution)
I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
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Simon Hughes | 531 c735 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Is it usual or in order for Front-Bench Members to both shout and o...
Lord Mann | 531 c730 (Link to this contribution)
There is nothing veiled or spiteful about it. I think that the hon. Lady should withdraw her allegat...
Andrea Leadsom | 531 c730 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will recognise that his party has just had the opportunity to appoint a new membe...
Lord Mann | 531 c729-30 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is not an hon. Friend of mine—to use the parliamentary language—so he is not priv...
Stewart Hosie | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
I am all in favour of gender balance on Committees, but the hon. Gentleman is a member of the Treasu...
Lord Mann | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is rather intemperate. Here we are having a good and important debate, and I anti...
Matt Hancock | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman started his very long speech by saying that all Members were equal, but all his p...
Lord Mann | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
I have only just begun on it, but I will give way.
Lord Mann | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point. There are other reasons why, when considering altering the...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
And the gender balance.
Lord Mann | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
I was just about to come to that point.
Matt Hancock | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
Thomas Docherty | 531 c728-9 (Link to this contribution)
It may assist my hon. Friend to learn that I have more than 2,000 people working in the banking indu...
Lord Mann | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Our colleagues from every corner of Scotland, not just Edinburgh, are always rightly happy to demons...
Gordon Birtwistle | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is obviously concerned by the lack of members from Scotland. There are two Labour...
Lord Mann | 531 c729 (Link to this contribution)
I put it to my hon. Friend that it would be an own goal by this Parliament, not least considering th...
Lord Beamish | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that many financial services jobs are based in Edinburgh?
Kelvin Hopkins | 531 c740 (Link to this contribution)
I am rather disappointed that my hon. Friend seems to be coming to the end of his speech, which I am...
Speaker | 531 c740 (Link to this contribution)
Order. That is a most interesting intervention, but sadly it has absolutely nothing to do with the e...
Bernard Jenkin | 531 c739 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Mr Speaker. May I put it to you that the question of the allocation of powers t...
Lord Mann | 531 c738-9 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. and learned Gentleman, from a sedentary position, says that that is inconsistent, but...
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 531 c738 (Link to this contribution)
That is inconsistent.
Thomas Docherty | 531 c738 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps my hon. Friend does not recall the exchange between me and the hon. Member for Portsmouth So...
Lord Mann | 531 c740 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Speaker, for that helpful guidance.
The final point that I wish to make in relation t...
Speaker | 531 c740 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman should proceed with his speech according to his own lights. It is not the normal ...
Speaker | 531 c739 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. I was listening intently and I was about to say, ...
Lord Mann | 531 c736-7 (Link to this contribution)
No, I disagree with my hon. Friend. Others were arguing in interventions—they are welcome to make th...
Peter Bottomley | 531 c737 (Link to this contribution)
Unless the number of members is increased, changing the balance by one person from 4:2 to 3:3 brings...
Lord Mann | 531 c737 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but there is no suggestion of any name being added—...
Speaker | 531 c735 (Link to this contribution)
It is not, but I strongly deprecate the suggestion that the hon. Gentleman has been around for longe...
Bob Stewart | 531 c736 (Link to this contribution)
Based on this argument, I am surprised that two male Members have tabled this amendment. Surely 50% ...
Lord Mann | 531 c735-6 (Link to this contribution)
As I was saying, equality is a fundamental issue in respect of Treasury matters. The make-up of this...
Harriett Baldwin | 531 c736 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman be moving on to the next point, which is the disproportionate number of peop...
Lord Mann | 531 c736 (Link to this contribution)
It is good that serious interventions are being made. On Treasury matters, there is a historical bia...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c736 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making a compelling argument. Has he considered the idea that in the future it mig...
Lord Mann | 531 c736 (Link to this contribution)
I will not be making frivolous points about the forename or surname of any of the Members put forwar...
Mike Hancock | 531 c725 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman can explain what he would have accepted from the Treasury Bench.
Thomas Docherty | 531 c724-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful, as ever, Mr Speaker, for your counsel. Of course, that is a debate for another t...
Speaker | 531 c724 (Link to this contribution)
Order. That is not a matter for debate in this Chamber tonight.
Lord Spellar | 531 c724 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is focusing largely on the Commons composition of the Committee. Does he believe that...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c724 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman asks a valid question. As a new Member who unseated a former Member who had to pa...
Robert Halfon | 531 c724 (Link to this contribution)
Members of both parties were implicated in various expenses issues. Is the hon. Gentleman saying tha...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c724 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously, Mr Speaker, the hon. Member for Cambridge (Dr Huppert) led me down a very tempting path, ...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c723 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman thinks back over the past 12 months, he will recall that my hon. Friends the M...
Speaker | 531 c724 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman must not be led astray into a spontaneous panegyric to his hon. Friends. H...
Julian Huppert | 531 c723 (Link to this contribution)
It has been said several times that the past week has seen Parliament at its best. How would the hon...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c723 (Link to this contribution)
I always have great respect for your counsel, Mr Speaker, and obviously do not seek a time when you ...
Speaker | 531 c723 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I say to the hon. Gentleman that, whatever senior counsel he sought and obtained, he can on t...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c723 (Link to this contribution)
I obviously look forward to my hon. Friend's contribution in due course.
I must say that I thought ...
Lord Mann | 531 c723 (Link to this contribution)
If I could hear myself speak, I would ask my hon. Friend whether he would care to comment on the fac...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c722 (Link to this contribution)
I will shortly move on to the thrust of my argument and come to the issue of the complications or ot...
David Mowat | 531 c722 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his generosity in referring to me. He is going through the list of pe...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c722 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful, Mr Speaker. Obviously I took some very senior counsel this afternoon from Officers of...
Speaker | 531 c722 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman will resume his seat. I must emphasise to him and to the House that this i...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c721-2 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is correct. I am baffled and I would happily take clarification from the Leader of th...
Speaker | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Order. This is not the occasion for the hon. Gentleman either to dilate or to rhapsodise about the m...
Lord Mann | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
I shall give way in a minute.
There is an important point about who should be a Back Bencher and wh...
Claire O'Neill | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Mann | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
I am attempting simply to put across a few views that I believe would appropriately reflect the view...
Kelvin Hopkins | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for Devizes (Claire Perry) accused my hon. Friend of taking a high moral tone, but d...
Lord Mann | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Mr Speaker, I do think that it would be appropriate to respond directly to the inaccuracies in the c...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c727 (Link to this contribution)
I did not get a chance to notice this while I was speaking—following the rules, I was looking at you...
Lord Mann | 531 c727 (Link to this contribution)
We take the view that all Members of the House are equal, which is an important principle, so the ab...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c726 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is entirely right. He will know that I am a member of the Procedure Committee, which ...
Lord Mann | 531 c725-6 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is getting to the nub of one of the key issues. Is not the dilemma that, when wishing...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c726 (Link to this contribution)
I think that you will correct me, Mr Speaker, if in my youthful naivety I have misunderstood the sys...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c726 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps over a glass of mulled wine, Mr Speaker. I was simply answering the question asked by the ho...
Speaker | 531 c726 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I simply say to the hon. Gentleman that I do not think the House requires a disquisition on h...
Lord Mann | 531 c726-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is with pleasure that I address such a packed House. Having sat through and participated in a sig...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c725 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very good question. I am looking at the many Liberal Democrats who are here tonight. I see...
Mike Hancock | 531 c725 (Link to this contribution)
As that is the case and the hon. Gentleman wants to have the last word on who serves on the Committe...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c725 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that question. Obviously, I will not have the last word. Indeed, I imagine that yo...
Lord Beamish | 531 c743 (Link to this contribution)
Without wanting to be diverted by my right hon. Friend, I certainly do agree with the hon. Gentleman...
Lord Beamish | 531 c742 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is being a bit petulant—[Interruption.] Pedantic, even. I do not understand why. ...
Lord Spellar | 531 c742 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend agrees with the hon. Gentleman about his Front Benchers' defence policy.
Lord Beamish | 531 c741-2 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. To be honest, my answer to the question of the second Chamber is ultimately to vote to abol...
Bernard Jenkin | 531 c742 (Link to this contribution)
If the date is so important, why did not the hon. Gentleman table his own amendment? Why does he thi...
Lord Beamish | 531 c741 (Link to this contribution)
It is an honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Bassetlaw (John Mann). As he knows, I was bo...
Kelvin Hopkins | 531 c741 (Link to this contribution)
I very much agree with what my hon. Friend is saying. Does he not agree that more pre-legislative sc...
Lord Mann | 531 c740 (Link to this contribution)
I shall therefore humbly ignore my hon. Friend's intervention and conclude my remarks. As guardians ...
Speaker | 531 c719 (Link to this contribution)
I remind the House that the amendment has been selected.
Hilary Benn | 531 c720 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak briefly to the motion. I agree with the Leader of the House that the Bill is extreme...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c720 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, amendment (a), in line 14, leave out 'Mr David Laws'. [Hon. Members: ““Shame!””] I he...
Lord Beamish | 531 c720 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend says that regulation failed, and there were loud cheers from the Government Benches, ...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c721 (Link to this contribution)
Once again, my hon. Friend anticipates my next sentence. I was about to remind the hon. Member for D...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c721 (Link to this contribution)
But I refer the hon. Lady to the speeches that she used to pen for the Chancellor of the Exchequer b...
Speaker | 531 c721 (Link to this contribution)
Order. As hon. Members know, the debate is quite tight and we are stretching it beyond where we need...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c721 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful, Mr Deputy Speaker. That allows me to pose a question to the Leader of the House. My u...
Lord Mann | 531 c721 (Link to this contribution)
Would my hon. Friend like to take the opportunity to correct the record and the rather uncharitable ...
Thomas Docherty | 531 c719 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Leader of the House recall that on four occasions last week Members objected to the motion?...
Lord Young of Cookham | 531 c719 (Link to this contribution)
No, there is a convention that the nomination of Members to Joint Committees such as this are made b...
Lord Young of Cookham | 531 c719 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That this House concurs with the Lords Message of 21 June, that it is expedient that ...
Lord Mann | 531 c728 (Link to this contribution)
I thank you, Mr Speaker, for redirecting me following my aberration after that intervention.
Claire O'Neill | 531 c727 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman seems to be taking a very high moral tone, but as a person who has been serially ...
Mike Hancock | 531 c726 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested to know how the hon. Gentleman managed to achieve a place on that Committee.
Peter Bottomley | 531 c735 (Link to this contribution)
Further to that point of order, Mr Speaker. Going one stage further as one of those Members who have...
Lord Mann | 531 c739 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Speaker, for your advice. I seek your clarification on one important matter. It was my...
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