Draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 2010. Debate on a motion to approve. Division deferred until 3 March.
Social Security
Debates on delegated legislation on Monday, 1 March 2010,
in the House of Commons,
led by Angela Eagle.
The answering
member was Nigel Waterson.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
506 c750-68 
Session
2009-10
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 2010
Wednesday, 27 January 2010
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Wednesday, 27 January 2010
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
John Mason | 506 c765 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that is obviously the latest in a long line of promises that we have come to expect the Governm...
Mike Weir | 506 c765 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend mentions the deferred pensions, but there is an issue of fairness, because a constitu...
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John Mason | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
I was trying to finish, but I shall.
John Mason | 506 c765 (Link to this contribution)
I should have answered the first intervention before I took the second one, but the point remains th...
Steve Webb | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Steve Webb | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful. The hon. Gentleman is such good value that I want him to keep going. The hon. Me...
John Mason | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I completely agree that it is inconsistent, and, as my hon. Friend says to me from a sedentary ...
Justine Greening | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
I had not planned to contribute to the debate, but, having listened to contributions from both sides...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
Speaking of cynicism, I wonder whether my hon. Friend can help me on this point: does she understand...
Justine Greening | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. It would be deeply irresponsible for the Lib Dems to play politic...
Dan Rogerson | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased that the hon. Lady has had the opportunity to come into the Chamber to contribute to th...
Justine Greening | 506 c766 (Link to this contribution)
There is a time to debate the reduction in pensions that might happen in the next financial year, an...
Angela Eagle | 506 c767 (Link to this contribution)
With the leave of the House, Mr. Speaker, I am happy to reply to the debate.
We have had an interes...
Mike Weir | 506 c767 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the Minister's point, but my constituent's point was that when she deferred her pension...
Angela Eagle | 506 c767-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to have a look at the documentation that the hon. Gentleman has, but it is important to r...
Lord Robathan | 506 c768 (Link to this contribution)
Expert advice.
Speaker | 506 c768 (Link to this contribution)
We come now to motion 7—[Interruption.] Order. I recognise that the deferral of the Division will co...
Steve Webb | 506 c751 (Link to this contribution)
But is it not the case that that is not quite accurate? The order that we are debating this evening ...
Angela Eagle | 506 c750-1 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That the draft Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 2010, which was laid before t...
Angela Eagle | 506 c756 (Link to this contribution)
In respect of the 2009 pre-Budget report, it was stated:""The 2009 Pre-Budget Report announces furth...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c755 (Link to this contribution)
I have to tell the Minister that, in the real world out there, people will see it as a cut. Having r...
Angela Eagle | 506 c755 (Link to this contribution)
I fail to understand why the Opposition think that bringing an increase—or half of it, say—forward f...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c754-5 (Link to this contribution)
Conservative Members naturally welcome any benefits' uprating so far as it goes and no matter how un...
Lynne Jones | 506 c753 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister says that JSA is not the only benefit. Has she any idea what proportion of people on JS...
Angela Eagle | 506 c753 (Link to this contribution)
It is true that our benefits systems do not replace a high percentage of earnings once one gets off ...
Lynne Jones | 506 c753 (Link to this contribution)
It is understandable that hon. Members should speak out on behalf of pensioners, but may I highlight...
Angela Eagle | 506 c752 (Link to this contribution)
I do not believe the figures that the hon. Gentleman has come up with. The retail prices index for S...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c752 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister accept that the intended consequence of these measures is that hundreds of thousan...
Angela Eagle | 506 c753 (Link to this contribution)
At a time of very great difficulty, we have put £1 billion extra into pensioners' pockets with the i...
David Drew | 506 c752 (Link to this contribution)
The problem with the additional pension is that people always feel that the Government manipulate it...
Angela Eagle | 506 c751 (Link to this contribution)
The uprating process applies in most cases to most benefits. However, the hon. Gentleman is well ver...
Angela Eagle | 506 c751-2 (Link to this contribution)
Queen's side or king's side?
Traditionally, the basic state pension is uprated in line with the ret...
David Heath | 506 c751 (Link to this contribution)
That was a castling move.
John Mason | 506 c764-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for Northavon (Steve Webb) for leaving me time to make a few comments. I thi...
Steve Webb | 506 c764 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend puts it admirably. I apologise for going too soft on the official Opposition, but he ...
David Heath | 506 c764 (Link to this contribution)
We cannot conclude without referring to the feckless position of the so-called official Opposition, ...
Alan Reid | 506 c760 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is perfectly right. Let me give an example. This morning I received a letter from a p...
Steve Webb | 506 c761-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am only just warming up.
One of the key things the voting public will want to know is where we go...
Angela Eagle | 506 c761 (Link to this contribution)
As the shadow shadow Chancellor has just wandered into the Chamber, perhaps he should be made aware ...
Angela Eagle | 506 c758 (Link to this contribution)
Liberal Democrats!
David Heath | 506 c759 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman. Does he recognise the fact that the last time we voted aga...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c756 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady obviously missed her vocation; she should have been a lawyer. [Interruption.] I am sor...
Steve Webb | 506 c756 (Link to this contribution)
The Leader of the Opposition said in his speech at the weekend that the Conservatives would pay for ...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c756-8 (Link to this contribution)
Well, that is an interesting intervention on two levels, is it not? First, it is an Alice in Wonderl...
Angela Eagle | 506 c756 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman at least admit that we have actually increased the basic state pension and p...
Angela Eagle | 506 c755 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman would explain why he thinks that making a 1.5 per cent. payment available...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c759 (Link to this contribution)
So, we are clear—the hon. Gentleman is making a point. The Liberal Democrats, knowing that they are ...
Angela Eagle | 506 c765 (Link to this contribution)
Before the hon. Gentleman gets himself too worked up, will he at least admit that the legal underpin...
Speaker | 506 c768 (Link to this contribution)
They are procedural experts. I am grateful to the hon. and gallant Member for Blaby (Mr. Robathan) f...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c755 (Link to this contribution)
It constitutes a cut because, according to the Government's own figures in the pre-Budget report, th...
Steve Webb | 506 c759-60 (Link to this contribution)
It is good to have the opportunity to debate these important matters, albeit just for 90 minutes. It...
Steve Webb | 506 c760-1 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. My hon. Friend highlights one of the strongest examples of this issue—the case of someon...
Nigel Waterson | 506 c758-9 (Link to this contribution)
Got it in one. Apparently, the Liberal Democrats intend to do just that. They issued a press release...
Angela Eagle | 506 c753-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to write to my hon. Friend to answer her question, as I confess I do not have the exact f...
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