Parliamentary search - Crime and Security Bill (Ways and Means)

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Parliamentary proceeding

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505 c480-90

Session

2009-10

Department

Ministry of Justice

Procedure

Ways and means resolutions

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House of Commons chamber

Crime and Security Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 3-EN also published.
Thursday, 19 November 2009
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Proceeding contributions

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c481 (Link to this contribution) I will certainly endeavour to do so, but the points I am making have implications for the costs at l...

Speaker | 505 c481 (Link to this contribution) Let me remind the hon. Member of the purpose of the motion. I am sure that he is aware of it. We und...

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Andrew Rosindell | 505 c481 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend emphasises the point. I have no doubt that when I have concluded my remarks—I have ma...

Speaker | 505 c481 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Member may be straying rather wide of the motion, which is quite a narrow one. Will ...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c482 (Link to this contribution) I think my hon. Friend makes a valid point. I hope that the Minister has got the message at this sta...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c482 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that it is very important to have clarification of the payment of fees? Wi...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c481-2 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. The motion on the Order Paper seeks to authorise "the imposition of...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c482 (Link to this contribution) I think it is important to establish at this early stage whether the Minister intends to come back t...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for that clarification, Madam Deputy Speaker. I think we are all looking forward to the Mi...

Speaker | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) Order. I apologise for interrupting the hon. Member again, but I repeat that he is going wide of the...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c482-3 (Link to this contribution) Once again, my hon. Friend makes extremely valid points about how this whole system will work, what ...

Speaker | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid that the hon. Member has gone wide of the remit once again.

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I think that anyone watching this debate will wonder why it is that...

Speaker | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) Order. All I have to say to the hon. Member is that although people listening to the debate may not ...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) Thank you. I give way to my hon. Friend.

Shailesh Vara | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) I fully appreciate the narrowness of the motion, Madam Deputy Speaker, but I trust that the House wi...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) We are still waiting with bated breath to hear what the Minister will have to say. I am baffled—we a...

Peter Bone | 505 c483 (Link to this contribution) I think my hon. Friend is about to end his speech, but I should say at this point that I am in a dil...

David Heath | 505 c484-5 (Link to this contribution) What a meal the hon. Member for Romford (Andrew Rosindell) has made of the Ways and Means motion. Ha...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c484 (Link to this contribution) That is a good question. We shall have to see what the Minister's explanation is before the House de...

David Heath | 505 c485 (Link to this contribution) She does not know. We have not made the law yet.

Peter Bone | 505 c485 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Somerton and Frome (Mr. Heath). I entirely agre...

Peter Bone | 505 c485-6 (Link to this contribution) I disagree. I think that Ways and Means motions should always be debated in full. The spending of mo...

Peter Bone | 505 c485 (Link to this contribution) Briefly.

Shailesh Vara | 505 c485 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful. Given the financial state of the country, does my hon. Friend agree that it is partic...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c485 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?

Shailesh Vara | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?

Claire Ward | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker, I should like to respond to the ingenuity of the ...

Speaker | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid that I must rule the hon. Gentleman out of order. This is a Ways and Means motion...

John Pugh | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) The point that I wish to raise is slightly procedural, and is also concerned with Government inconsi...

Speaker | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman has been in the Chamber when I have drawn attention to the narrowness of t...

Claire Ward | 505 c487 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should know that the Government always take into account the views expressed in c...

Claire Ward | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) I am well aware that the hon. Gentleman is seeking to ensure that there are opportunities to do othe...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for giving way. She said the motion has little to do with cost, b...

Claire Ward | 505 c487 (Link to this contribution) It is not to do with costs; it is about charges and payments in relation to the Consolidated Fund. ...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c487 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has said there will be a consultation. Can she assure the House that it will not be the...

Claire Ward | 505 c487-8 (Link to this contribution) Well, the hon. Gentleman must decide whether he wishes to call a Division, and thereby take a step t...

Peter Bone | 505 c487 (Link to this contribution) The excellent Minister is being most helpful, but I must be being extremely thick today. If this is ...

Claire Ward | 505 c488 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way again, but perhaps the hon. Gentleman will then allow me to answer one or two of th...

Claire Ward | 505 c487 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is straying into rather more substantive issues to do with the Bill more generall...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c487 (Link to this contribution) I fully appreciate that the Bill does not apply to local authorities and their land, but does the Mi...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c480 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for outlining the purpose of today's brief Ways and Means debate ...

Claire Ward | 505 c480 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members will recall that the House agreed a money resolution in respect of the Crime and Securi...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c480 (Link to this contribution) Yes, that was rather surprising, and I hope that she will come back at the end of the debate and add...

Peter Bone | 505 c480 (Link to this contribution) Was not my hon. Friend amazed by the speed with which the Minister introduced this resolution, witho...

Lee Scott | 505 c480 (Link to this contribution) This is a well-meaning law that will, without question, benefit people. I want to see an end to thes...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c480-1 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an extremely valid point. Having served on a local authority myself, I know how...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c481 (Link to this contribution) I share my colleague's concern at the paucity of the Minister's comments. This is an important issue...

Speaker | 505 c490 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid I must intervene ahead of the Minister and say that that is wide of the motion.

Claire Ward | 505 c490 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for your guidance. I am not sure there was much more I could have a...

Claire Ward | 505 c490 (Link to this contribution) But clearly not extensive enough, and as there is still time left that the hon. Gentleman wishes to ...

Peter Bone | 505 c490 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister, who is being extremely generous in giving way. She is winning me...

Andrew Rosindell | 505 c488 (Link to this contribution) I certainly will. The Minister is doing an excellent job in trying to persuade the House not to call...

Claire Ward | 505 c488-90 (Link to this contribution) The full details of the costs of the scheme will be considered in Committee. Let me simply say today...

Shailesh Vara | 505 c488 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that the costs are being paid "largely" by one body. Which other bodies or groups ...

John Pugh | 505 c486 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to speak either. The other day, however, I received a letter from the Minister ab...

Peter Bone | 505 c485 (Link to this contribution) That is one of the reasons why I am a little concerned about the timing.

Claire Ward | 505 c488 (Link to this contribution) I can assure the hon. Gentleman that these are important matters, which is why the Government are re...

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Compensation

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Crime

Costs

Fees and charges

Immobilisation of vehicles

Private sector

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Terrorism

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Legislation

Crime and Security Bill 2009-10

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