Parliamentary search - Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

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2008-09

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Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 42-EN also published.
Wednesday, 6 May 2009
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Baroness Garden of Frognal | 713 c35 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her very full reply. Yes, we were trying to find out exactly wher...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c57 (Link to this contribution) Clause 54: Complaints about transport arrangements etc for persons of sixth form age Amedment 136C ...

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Lord Ramsbotham | 713 c32 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may briefly follow what the noble Lord, Lord Baker, has just said. The East Pote...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 713 c31-2 (Link to this contribution) May I add to what the noble Baroness has said? The amendments attempt to pin down the responsibility...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the effectiveness of this kind of provision, which I wholeheartedly support—it would be wo...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 713 c31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am freshly back from a two-day visit to the Welsh Assembly, and apologise if there was a...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c33-5 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, I was not clear. There is existing funding for education within the juvenile estate. The...

Lord Elton | 713 c33 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that the existing funds would be transferred and ring-fenced. That makes the assum...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c33 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may respond quickly to the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, and the noble Baroness, L...

Lord De Mauley | 713 c32-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like my noble friend Lady Perry, I declare sympathy for the amendments raised by the noble...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c63 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 2: LEA functions: minor and consequential amendments Amendments 143A and 143B 143A: Sched...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 713 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 141, 142 and 142A. I speak also on behalf of my noble friend L...

Lord Low of Dalston | 713 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister said, I have my name against Amendments 137, 138 and 140, along with that of the nob...

Lord De Mauley | 713 c60-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these amendments all address transport provision, particularly as regards those with learn...

Lord Lucas | 713 c60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have no wish to rain on the parade of the noble Lord, Lord Low. He seems to have achieve...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall briefly pick up a couple of points as I do not want to repeat everything that I ha...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 713 c61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to say again how obviously successful the negotiations with the noble Lord, Lord Lo...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c62-3 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 140A and 140B 140A: Clause 55, page 41, line 1, leave out "certain young adults" and ins...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c62 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 136D and 136E 136D: Clause 54, page 39, line 20, after "local" insert "education" 136E...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to government Amendments 136D, 136E, 140A, 140B, 143A and 143B, as well...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c27-8 (Link to this contribution) Despite the change of gender involved, I shall endeavour to reply. As we have heard, Amendment 127 r...

Lord Elton | 713 c27 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 127, which would, at page 31, line 7, leave out new subsection (1)...

Lord Elton | 713 c27 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 127 127: Clause 49, page 31, leave out lines 7 to 9

Lord Elton | 713 c26-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will seek advice on what the noble Baroness has so far told us. Before we leave Amendmen...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c26 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the YPLA will have a key role in apportioning funds. I do not have details of the exact fl...

Lord Ramsbotham | 713 c26 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in response to the point of the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, about inspection, I inform the Com...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c26 (Link to this contribution) I would be very happy to write in detail to the noble Lord. As he has suggested, it would be a good ...

Lord Baker of Dorking | 713 c26 (Link to this contribution) Before the amendment is withdrawn, could I ask the Minister to remind the Committee about where the ...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c23-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would be helpful to do a note to the Committee on the role of the corporate parent in t...

Lord Lucas | 713 c25 (Link to this contribution) I thought at the beginning that we were wandering off course when the noble Baroness talked about st...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 713 c30-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 136B. The Minister sent a detailed response to concerns on...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 713 c30 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 136A 136A: Clause 49, page 34, line 44, at end insert— "562GA Responsibility for ensuring...

Lord Elton | 713 c31 (Link to this contribution) I am concerned again about Wales. I see that only the Secretary of State has the power to direct her...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c28-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much hope that I can offer the reassurances that the noble Lord, Lord Elton, is loo...

Lord Elton | 713 c30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me say just a word on the mechanism of that. The statutory guidance, whose initial dra...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will make my best endeavours and undertake to ensure that I can provide the noble Lord w...

Lord Elton | 713 c30 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that, as nobody seems to be particularly watching the interests of the Welsh at th...

Lord Elton | 713 c28 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful, and I shall table a similar amendment on Report unless the Government ...

Lord Elton | 713 c28 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 130 130: Clause 49, page 31, line 32, at end insert— "( ) If the home authority receive a...

Lord Elton | 713 c28 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 131 and 135. Amendment 135 requires the host authority to...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c18 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is correct. The priority factors for a person’s placement are their age, vulnerabilit...

Lord Elton | 713 c18 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister repeat the criteria because I did not hear educational criteria in that list?

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c18 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that I suggested I have a magic wand. I sometimes feel that I am not much b...

Lord Lucas | 713 c17 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that I recognise the prison system as the Minister portrays it. He seems to ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c18-9 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness makes a valid point and I shall address what we are doing to improve the situatio...

Lord Elton | 713 c15 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is a third monosyllable to be added: "who". Throughout the National Health Service, ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c16-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank all noble Lords who co-operated with us during the Recess in trying to ensu...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 713 c14 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches are grateful to the Ministers and the Bill team for the ongoing dialog...

Lord Ramsbotham | 713 c14-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also thank the noble Baroness, Lady Morgan, for the care that she has taken during the R...

Lord Elton | 713 c21-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 128, 133 and 134. The first amendment seeks simply to mak...

Lord Elton | 713 c21 (Link to this contribution) Clause 49: Persons detained in youth accommodation: further provision Amendment 126 126: Clause 49...

Earl of Listowel | 713 c22 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take the opportunity, given what my noble friend has just said, to thank the Minister fo...

Lord Ramsbotham | 713 c22 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I put my name to these amendments because, as with so much of the Bill, there is a read-ac...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 713 c22-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also take this opportunity to thank Ministers and, indeed, the team for the time that th...

Lord De Mauley | 713 c19 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and to the noble Baroness, Lady Garden, ...

Lord Elton | 713 c19 (Link to this contribution) Clause 48: Persons detained in youth accommodation: application of provisions Amendment 125 125: C...

Lord Elton | 713 c19-20 (Link to this contribution) This amendment seeks to leave out a sub-paragraph. In the third paragraph of the letter sent by the ...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to add to my noble friend’s comments about the gratitude we feel towards nob...

Lord Elton | 713 c21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I echo my thanks to her for the time that she has spe...

Lord De Mauley | 713 c13-4 (Link to this contribution) Education is of paramount importance, and those held in our youth detention centres are being let do...

Lord De Mauley | 713 c13 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may first wish all noble Lords involved in this Committee a warm welcome back after such a...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 713 c13 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, resumes his speech, I should inform the Committee that my nob...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c94-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. As the Minister will know, colleges have been much embarrassed by...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 713 c95-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise strongly to support my noble friend Lady Perry of Southwark and to say that I found...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c96-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 149A would require the Young People’s Learning Agency to put into place a commit...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c97 (Link to this contribution) The short answer is yes. I said that the YPLA will need to have arrangements for working with the Sk...

Viscount Eccles | 713 c98 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate, but I think that there is a more fundamental problem. All organisations need some focus....

Lord Lucas | 713 c98 (Link to this contribution) The YPLA has a rather difficult remit anyway. It is supposed to drive up participation without being...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c98 (Link to this contribution) In answer to the noble Viscount, Lord Eccles, I think he is right that we have to ensure that projec...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c99 (Link to this contribution) I thank all who have contributed to what has proved to be an important issue in the structure of the...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c100 (Link to this contribution) That was a very gracious speech by the Minister and I thank him for it. Certainly at this point I am...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c99-100 (Link to this contribution) We have not dismissed the importance of what the noble Baroness is saying; indeed, I stressed that I...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c101-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 153 would commit the YPLA to equalising the basic funding rate for a given progr...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) I could not quite understand whether the Minister was saying that for the next year the 8 per cent d...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c100 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 153 153: Clause 59, page 44, line 21, at end insert— "( ) The YPLA shall ensure that by 2...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c100-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 153 was debated in the Commons but we feel it is worth bringing forward here bec...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) In my answer, I pointed out that we also have to manage the question of raising the participation ag...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister could make it clear to me, because I am a little confused about this. I thought...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) You are committed to leaving it at 6 per cent, not reducing it by a further percentage?

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) I must apologise. I was slightly distracted, so I missed the point that the noble Baroness was makin...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c103 (Link to this contribution) The best thing that I can do is write on that specific point about deprived areas, because I do not ...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) I was asking whether the Minister could clarify the position for me. I had thought that although get...

Lord Addington | 713 c104 (Link to this contribution) Clause 61: Performance Assessments Amendment 153A 153A: Clause 61, page 45, line 19, at end insert...

Lord Addington | 713 c104-5 (Link to this contribution) In moving this amendment I shall also speak to Amendment 211A. The aim of these amendments is to exp...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 713 c105 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Addington, for raising these very important concerns. I am sure I speak...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c103 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Government on having reduced the differential during the past year. It is very go...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c103 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response, but it is not a very adequate one. I congratulate him on redu...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c103-4 (Link to this contribution) I want to examine some of the points made by the noble Baroness because I cannot give a comprehensiv...

Lord Addington | 713 c106 (Link to this contribution) It is late.

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c106 (Link to this contribution) I did not mean to refer to the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp. I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Addin...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c105-6 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 153A and 211A reflect the concerns of such organisations as the Alliance for Inclusive Ed...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c106 (Link to this contribution) It has been a long day. I hope that with the comprehensive range of assurances that we have given, n...

Lord Addington | 713 c106-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for that response and the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for his support. This is som...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) I shall pick up the question from the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp. The current high-level figures sho...

Lord Elton | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) Could the noble Baroness direct me to something which I ought to be able to put my finger on at once...

Lord Elton | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) Does that mean that this reorganisation applies to England only and does not touch Wales?

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c72-6 (Link to this contribution) I very much hope that I will be able to offer the reassurance that noble Lords are looking for. I am...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c72 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, have a question for the Minister. I know that the Government are genuinely committ...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c76-7 (Link to this contribution) I had not expected the Minister to respond as positively to all the amendments in this group and we ...

Viscount Eccles | 713 c76 (Link to this contribution) As a Back-Bench Member, I have been wondering, if the Motion that Clause 58 should stand part was mo...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 713 c63 (Link to this contribution) Clause 58: The Young People's Learning Agency for England Amendment 144 144: Clause 58, page 42, l...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c67-72 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is down with that of the noble Baroness, Lady Verma, and the noble Lord, Lord De M...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 713 c63-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we now move on to a very important group of amendments. I think that there are 18 altogeth...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c93 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 149A 149A: Clause 59, page 43, line 44, at end insert— "( ) The YPLA must also ensure tha...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 713 c78-9 (Link to this contribution) Everything else the Minister said would gladden the heart of Sir Humphrey because she defended the i...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c78 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord wholeheartedly for giving me the opportunity to clarify that for the record. ...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 713 c77-8 (Link to this contribution) First, I should like to say how much I enjoyed the speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp of Guild...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I cannot hear the noble Lord.

Lord Elton | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I have it correct in saying that everything we are discussing applies only to England, s...

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords. I see that there are lots of nods.

Lord Elton | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) Is it the case for the Skills Funding Agency as well?

Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 713 c77 (Link to this contribution) As I said, the YPLA and the SFA will be England bodies. I am sorry: the YPLA will be an England body...

Lord De Mauley | 713 c13 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 124C had been retabled as Amendment 124D Amendment 124D 124D: After Clause 47, insert th...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c97 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, there will be one capital programme for further education, which will be divided...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 713 c102 (Link to this contribution) It will be sustained and, unless my numeracy skills are wrong—I hope that they are not—we have said ...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 713 c104 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Minister. It would be good if he could take this away. The whole coll...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 713 c93-4 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that we are in love with the YPLA, at least not on this side of the Committee. Nevert...

Baroness Walmsley | 713 c18 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Elton, said, education is not mentioned in those criteria. Although I am sur...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 713 c95 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am rather attracted by this idea, not least because there is nothing in the Bill that re...

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