Parliamentary search - Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill [HL]

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707 c251-312GC

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2008-09

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Department for Communities and Local Government

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House of Lords Grand Committee

Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill (HL). Explanatory Notes HL Bill 2-EN also published.
Thursday, 4 December 2008
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Lord Greaves | 707 c309GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 172AB 172AB: Clause 66, page 45, line 33, at end insert— ““( ) Section 100 of the Local G...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c310-2GC (Link to this contribution) I know how strongly the noble Baroness feels about these amendments, and based on her experience, I ...

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Lord Hanningfield | 707 c295-6GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, thank the noble Baroness for that very full answer. I accept that any Government must have a...

Lord Greaves | 707 c298GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister’s last comments were to an amendment that I thought I was talking to about an hour and ...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c267GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 64 sets out—

Baroness Andrews | 707 c280GC (Link to this contribution) It is a contradiction in terms Those arrangements can be driven only by the regions and the sub-regi...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c278GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should ask a question first, because we are going to have a long discussion on regional st...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c251GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 63: Local authority economic assessment Amendment 160D 160D: Clause 63, page 42, line 8, le...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c309-10GC (Link to this contribution) As my noble friend said, Amendment 173B is grouped with Amendment 172AB. He said that he would say w...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c312GC (Link to this contribution) This may a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.

Lord Greaves | 707 c309GC (Link to this contribution) I am going to withdraw Amendment 168C, although I should like to be satisfied that leaders’ boards w...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c299-302GC (Link to this contribution) This is an important group of amendments. I know that noble Lords have raised these issues because t...

Lord Best | 707 c283-4GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments 166A, 175A and 176A are in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker. Unfortunately, ...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c287-94GC (Link to this contribution) The snow brought many blessings, but clearly it brought its downsides as well. I am sorry that the n...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c296GC (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. Obviously a huge amount of work has gone into the regional spatial strategies in determi...

Lord Best | 707 c296GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her comments on housing strategy. I was not entirely sure whether the inter...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c273GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 165ZC would insert a new clause that would amend the Sustainable Communities Act, albeit o...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c269-71GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord rightly points out that it is our intention to replace the LSC. Under our proposals, ...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c268-9GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 64 sets out a list of partner authorities in respect of the local authority economic assessme...

Lord Greaves | 707 c264-5GC (Link to this contribution) On my first amendment, the Minister said that we can leave it to the county and district councils to...

Lord Tope | 707 c262GC (Link to this contribution) I rise in support of Amendments Nos. 162 and 163. As the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, said, they a...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c278-9GC (Link to this contribution) Could the Minister think about how it will have to be different? The old county structure plan actua...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c279GC (Link to this contribution) Very briefly, certainly local government has evolved, but not even Essex is sufficient unto itself.

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c279GC (Link to this contribution) That is why I very much support MAAs. I hate taking Essex as an example all the time, but it must wo...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c279-80GC (Link to this contribution) I shall reply very briefly; we will have a debate that is far too long in a moment. On the Liberal B...

Lord Greaves | 707 c280GC (Link to this contribution) I am not challenging the need for sub-regional arrangements at all; I am challenging the top-down, a...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c277-8GC (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the confusion over groupings. We are handling some complex groupings in this part of th...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c277GC (Link to this contribution) I shall give the noble Lord the answer that I would have given. This is the proposition that the lea...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c251-2GC (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment 160D, I shall speak to my other amendments in this group. In presenting the amen...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c259GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to ask two questions, having drawn a number of conclusions; namely, that there is to b...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c261GC (Link to this contribution) Light-touch legislation as well as light-touch guidance.

Lord Greaves | 707 c309GC (Link to this contribution) The second amendment in this group is Amendment 173B. It is in the name of my noble friend Lady Hamw...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c312GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister used the phrases, ““open, inclusive and appropriate”” and ““inclusive and transparent””...

Lord Greaves | 707 c312GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 172AB withdrawn. Clause 66 agreed. Clause 67 : R...

Lord Tope | 707 c302-3GC (Link to this contribution) I am once again grateful to the Minister for her full reply, but she has not managed to reassure me ...

Lord Greaves | 707 c303GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 66: Leaders' Boards Amendment 168C 168C: Clause 66, page 45, line 7, leave out ““must”” and...

Lord Greaves | 707 c303-4GC (Link to this contribution) In this bumper bundle group I shall speak to Amendments 168E to 168G, 170A to 170E, 172AA, Clause 68...

Lord Greaves | 707 c304-5GC (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Leigh, is going to fund it out of his personal inc...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c305GC (Link to this contribution) I have several amendments in this group, including Amendments 169 to 171, 182A and 182B. I do not wa...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c305-6GC (Link to this contribution) We have two amendments in this group: Amendments 169ZA and 169B. The first follows on from points ma...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c283GC (Link to this contribution) We have Amendments 166ZA and 166ZB in this group. I agree with all that the noble Baroness, Lady Ham...

Lord Greaves | 707 c296-7GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that this group will take a bit less time. I shall also speak to Amendments 168B and 177C in ...

Lord Graham of Edmonton | 707 c298GC (Link to this contribution) Oh!

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c272GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 165ZC 165ZC: After Clause 64, insert the following new Clause— ““Sustainable Communities ...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c273GC (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Baroness, because I think that we all hoped for a lot from the Sustainable Commu...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c269GC (Link to this contribution) The LSC is about to be abolished.

Lord Tope | 707 c272GC (Link to this contribution) Following what my noble friend said about local strategic partners, if I remember rightly, when we c...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c266-7GC (Link to this contribution) I support those amendments. We have some amendments in this group, too. I endorse everything that th...

Lord Greaves | 707 c262-3GC (Link to this contribution) Amendments 163A and 163B are also in this group, referring to the involvement of district councils i...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c278GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Lord will forgive me if I answer his absolutely pertinent question in the cont...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c275-6GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendment 165B. We have talked a lot about consultation on economic strategy, ...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c275GC (Link to this contribution) I will not attempt to extend the discussion on this, but it will be useful for those outside the Com...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c277GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise. I was confused by the last-minute changes in groupings. However, what the noble Lord sa...

Lord Greaves | 707 c253-5GC (Link to this contribution) I very much go along with what the two previous speakers have said. I have tabled Amendment 160G in ...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c252-3GC (Link to this contribution) We on these Benches have three amendments in this group. I do not want to detain the Committee by ma...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c260-1GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord mentioned guidance far too much. Every other word was about guidance, which is what w...

Lord Greaves | 707 c260GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister referred to the policy statement, which, in my view, is full of top-down rules and regu...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c306-9GC (Link to this contribution) This is an important group of amendments to which I shall try to do justice. The amendments fall int...

Lord Greaves | 707 c284-7GC (Link to this contribution) This is a large and important group of amendments and is one of the two groups that are the meat of ...

Lord Greaves | 707 c294-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that long and detailed reply. We shall have to read carefully what...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c296GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, am grateful to the Minister for that long and detailed response. I have made quite a lot of ...

Lord Greaves | 707 c296GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 166ZC 166ZC: Clause 65, page 44, line 25, leave out subsection (3)

Lord Tope | 707 c298GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 166D, 167A and 167B, 168A, 175ZA, 177D, 179A, 180D and 180E. I shal...

Lord Tope | 707 c298GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 166C 166C: Clause 65, page 44, line 34, leave out ““so much of””

Baroness Andrews | 707 c297-8GC (Link to this contribution) In the interests of speed, perhaps the noble Lord will allow me to read Hansard in detail tomorrow. ...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c299GC (Link to this contribution) We have two amendments in this group: Amendments 167 and 168. They are on very similar lines to thos...

Lord Tope | 707 c298-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to disappoint the noble Lord, Lord Graham of Edmonton. If he wants me to, I shall be more...

Lord Greaves | 707 c271GC (Link to this contribution) I have one brief comment to make about LSPs. The Government need to sort out their status in a sensi...

Lord Greaves | 707 c267-8GC (Link to this contribution) Members of the Committee will excuse me for the fact that I was dreaming of better things than being...

Lord Tope | 707 c265-6GC (Link to this contribution) In moving this amendment I shall speak also to Amendments 162AA, 164A, 164B and 165ZA. This large gr...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c265GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. I tend to agree with much of what the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, ...

Lord Tope | 707 c265GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 162ZA 162ZA: Clause 63, page 42, line 22, leave out ““must”” and insert ““may””

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c263-4GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 162 would have the effect of making non-unitary district councils principal local authorit...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c261GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 162 162: Clause 63, page 42, line 17, leave out ““, other than a non-unitary district cou...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c261-2GC (Link to this contribution) This is a simple amendment which follows on from some of the previous discussion and which has been ...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c280-2GC (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment 165C, I shall speak also to Amendments 165E, 166B, 177F, 182ZA, 182ZB and 182ZC ...

Baroness Hamwee | 707 c280GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 165C 165C: Clause 65, page 44, line 22, at end insert— ““( ) policies in relation to the ...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c280GC (Link to this contribution) We had a bit of a debate there. As I said, I very much supported the government initiative for a sub...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c279GC (Link to this contribution) I know that this is a shocking thing to say; perhaps it should not even be reported. The point is th...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c275GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 65: Regional strategy Amendment 165A 165A: Clause 65, page 44, line 21, at end insert ““to ...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c273-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to do that and to answer both questions asked by the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, be...

Baroness Andrews | 707 c276GC (Link to this contribution) This is the first debate on the implications of the regional structures, but I will save my longer c...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c277GC (Link to this contribution) I would be grateful if you would speak to it.

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c255-9GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 160D, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Warsi, but introduced by the noble Lord,...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 707 c261GC (Link to this contribution) One of the key issues here was mentioned by the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee—namely, whether this pro...

Lord Hanningfield | 707 c261GC (Link to this contribution) This is the first of a series of debates on this issue. I hope that we can persuade the Government t...

Baroness Harris of Richmond | 707 c251GC (Link to this contribution) If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn as soon as th...

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