Pensions Bill. Lords Committee stage sixth day. Clauses 90-92, 95, 97-99, 101-103 and 105 agreed to. Clauses 89, 93-94, 96, 100, 104 and 106 agreed to as amended. New Clauses (Amendments 130ZZN, 130ZC, 130EM and 130ET) agreed to. Schedule 2 agreed to. Schedules 3-7 agreed to as amended. New Schedule (Amendment 130ZZM) agreed to.
Pensions Bill
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Monday, 14 July 2008,
in the House of Lords.
Type
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Reference
703 c977-86,1003-49,1059-90 
Session
2007-08
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Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Pensions Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes HL Bill 50-EN also published.
Wednesday, 23 April 2008
Bills
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Wednesday, 23 April 2008
Bills
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Financial Assistance Scheme (Halting Annuitisation) Regulations 2007
Tuesday, 4 September 2007
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House of Commons
Tuesday, 4 September 2007
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Financial Assistance Scheme (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2008
Wednesday, 18 June 2008
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House of Commons
Wednesday, 18 June 2008
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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
It might be helpful if I explained that the individuals who wish to relate back part of the money th...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister, and I am sure that the Pensions Action Group will be partially gratef...
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Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
That must be true, but in his additional remarks the Minister has just said that the individuals ““c...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution)
The amendment would introduce a power to make regulations so that any financial assistance scheme pa...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EVA:
130EVA: After Clause 106, insert the following new Clause—
““Tax payab...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
I am relieved by that last answer, and I am sure that the Pensions Action Group will be too. I beg l...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
The answer is yes, they will. I see nods from the Box in confirmation of what I have said. The syste...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1084-5 (Link to this contribution)
It may help the Committee if, like the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, I set out briefly our general at...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1082-4 (Link to this contribution)
As my noble friend has said, Amendment No. 130EW is immensely wide. It does not have within it any g...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1080-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 130EW, Amendment No. 130EX:
130EX: Before Clause 107, line...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1077-80 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EW:
130EW: Before Clause 107, insert the following new Clause—
““Power to a...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1077 (Link to this contribution)
There will come a time when I will have to read the Minister’s words with great care and with a cold...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1076-7 (Link to this contribution)
The financial assistance scheme has to use annuity rates in a number of different circumstances wher...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1076 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot be more emphatic than that—even me, with my extensive use of the English language. It is a ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the noble Lord. I think that I understand the point he is making, but there is no int...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1087-8 (Link to this contribution)
That is, with respect, not the time limit that I was referring to. The fact is that the amendment co...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1085-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. It has been a useful opportunity to discuss genuin...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1090 (Link to this contribution)
In view of the time, I shall not make such extensive remarks as I had intended, for example, in rela...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1090 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry but in their amendment the Government are trying to take a power that would allow them to...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I did not make my position clear. I do not think that going away over the summer and working...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the noble Lord’s position and realise where he was coming from. Perhaps I may deal with...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
Would the Minister accept an amendment to Amendment No. 130EW to reflect what he has just said? At p...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1088-9 (Link to this contribution)
I shall certainly take that comment away and consider whether I need to speak to officials about the...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1089-90 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister very much for that explanation. As the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, said, it is ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1090 (Link to this contribution)
I have listened carefully to what the noble Lord says. I am not in a position to withdraw the govern...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1044 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my noble friend Lady Hollis for her support and welcome for the provisions. I thank her for ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I have tried to pursue this question already and have not received very satisfactory answers in meet...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
If the question was whether these powers give us authority in relation to FAS, my answer is that I d...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
Surely 90 per cent of FAS is operated by regulation. Therefore, I suspect that the answer that the M...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1046 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZD:
130ZD: Clause 94, page 46, line 30, after ““compensation”” insert ““tha...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZC:
130ZC: After Clause 93, insert the following new Clause—
““Activation o...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
Or any other primary legislation? That is the question.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I can confirm that we were not planning to amend this Bill to take that issue forward.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
I shall write on that issue and share that correspondence with noble Lords. It is turning out quite ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1045 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, is exactly right. It is not so much whether we need to amend prim...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1039-40 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZZN:
130ZZN: After Clause 90, insert the following new Clause—
““Contractin...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1040-1 (Link to this contribution)
I understand where my noble friend is coming from; obviously we all wish to see this simplification,...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1035-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZZM:
130ZZM: After Schedule 3, insert the following new Schedule—
““Additio...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1044 (Link to this contribution)
I look forward to hearing a Minister reply. I do not want to be told what is happening by someone el...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1044 (Link to this contribution)
I have had the benefit of meetings with the officials and Maggie Rae to discuss the amendments. It i...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1044 (Link to this contribution)
Like the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, I have only one question: if officials have worked for so long...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1043-4 (Link to this contribution)
Like the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, we on these Benches have no problem with the Government’s poli...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1043 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister and to the officials of both departments who have work...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1041 (Link to this contribution)
I acknowledge the issue that my noble friend has raised concerning vulnerable survivors. The best wa...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130DL:
130DL: Schedule 4, page 72, line 38, after ““payment),”” insert—
““para...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
I have a very quick question for the noble Lord about the prognosis for terminal illness, which I as...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
If the noble Lord will give me a moment, I shall try to identify which one it is.
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps while the Minister is looking, he will accept our support for the amendments.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
I can deal with that point: I am most grateful to the noble Lord for his support. Any minute now, I ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1060 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed it is, and I am extremely grateful.
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130DS:
130DS: Clause 100, page 48, line 38, at end insert—
““( ) provision ena...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1060-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130DM to 130DR:
130DM: Schedule 4, page 73, line 9, leave out ““or widower””...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1063 (Link to this contribution)
It seems to me that Amendment No. 130EM is the substantive amendment in the group. It is a new claus...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1046-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130A:
130A: Clause 94, page 46, line 31, leave out ““debit”” and insert ““redu...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1047-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is with disappointment that I rise to speak for the Government on this clause, not being an accou...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1048 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that response. It was not unexpected, but I have made my point. The Ministe...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
Is this amendment not in fact defective? Should we not also amend the clause heading, ““Creation of ...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1047 (Link to this contribution)
We are never allowed to change the titles. I was always told that it is an administrative consequenc...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1049 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130DC to 130DK:
130DC: Schedule 4, page 71, line 14, leave out ““widower, wi...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130DA and 130DB:
130DA: Clause 96, page 47, line 7, after ““Where”” insert “...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1048 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130BZA to 130BZC:
130BZA: Clause 94, page 46, line 34, leave out from ““mean...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1049 (Link to this contribution)
I suggest that we break and do not reconvene before 8.29 pm. I beg to move that the House do now res...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1071-2 (Link to this contribution)
As the Minister said, my Amendment No. 130EU has been put very naturally into this group, as indeed ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EQ:
130EQ: Clause 106, page 50, line 25, after ““scheme”””” insert ““, in p...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1072 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lords, Lord Skelmersdale and Lord Oakeshott, for their kind support for the amendm...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1072 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Government on behalf of the Desmond and Sons pension scheme for what they have done. Sea...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1067 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EL:
130EL: Transpose Clause 104 to after Clause 105
On Question, amendment...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1068 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EN:
130EN: Schedule 7, page 93, line 6, at end insert—
““ In paragraph 11(8...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1072 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130ER and 130ES:
130ER: Clause 106, page 50, line 28, at end insert—
““(3B) ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1072-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ET:
130ET: After Clause 106, insert the following new Clause—
““Restriction...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1065-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130E:
130E: Schedule 5, page 84 leave out lines 26 to 32 and insert—
““( ) For...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1065 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130DT to 130DZ:
130DT: Schedule 5, page 78, line 2, after first ““compensati...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1064-5 (Link to this contribution)
I have allowed one Minister to get off the hook on this occasion, and I am now going to let another ...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1064 (Link to this contribution)
While the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, considers his position, the Minister might like to know tha...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1064 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry, but the amendment allows the PPF to recover the costs of pension sharing that have been ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1064 (Link to this contribution)
We have had this before—not on the previous day in Committee but, I think, the day before—when the n...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1063-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry that I cannot give a blow-by-blow retort to that. It seems to me entirely reasonable that...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1066-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130EJ and 130EK:
130EJ: Clause 104, page 50, line 11, at end insert—
““(b) i...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1066 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EH:
130EH: Clause 104, page 50, line 9, leave out from beginning to ““after...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution)
What we are not yet happy about is the model which suggests that open schemes with ongoing liabiliti...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1029 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response. He said that the PPF is trying to build confidence. What the ...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1027 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I can assist the Committee. In his enthusiasm for his project, I think that my noble friend ...
Lord James of Blackheath | 703 c1027 (Link to this contribution)
I support those comments and I am grateful to my noble friend. I am concerned here with the benefits...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1027-8 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may start by acknowledging that in my view the noble Baroness was not in any way seeking t...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1028 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister explain why the Government are happy with insured closed schemes, but are drawing t...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1029 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister for Pensions, Mike O’Brien, is on the record as saying that he welcomes innovation in t...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1026 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to come in on that. If one is promoting a fundraising, one is not going to make any mo...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1035 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZZF:
130ZZF: After Clause 89, insert the following new Clause—
““Additional...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1035 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130ZZG to 130ZZL:
130ZZG: Schedule 3, page 69, line 32, leave out from ““dat...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1034 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130ZZB to 130ZZD:
130ZZB: Clause 89, page 44, line 2, leave out from first “...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1034-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZZE:
130ZZE: After Clause 89, insert the following new Clause—
““Entitlemen...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1033 (Link to this contribution)
I will pass on that last question, if I may.
The noble Baroness’s amendments would make it a requir...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1034 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted. I look forward to seeing the amendment that the Minister produces on Report.
On Que...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1031-3 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 130ZZEA and 130ZZEB, which are amendments to government Amendment N...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1033 (Link to this contribution)
It would be churlish of me not to support these amendments, particularly as the noble Baroness has s...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1029 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister reassures me. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
We need to look at the whole picture.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1016-8 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed; I am with the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, on this. Perhaps I may recap the situation. First,...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1019 (Link to this contribution)
I am more than happy to set up a meeting with officials from the Treasury or HMRC. I do so, in all h...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1019 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot let the noble Lord get away with that. The great clunking fist came down when the Commons d...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1019 (Link to this contribution)
In your hour of need.
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1020-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 129A:
129A: After Clause 88, insert the following new Clause—
““Override of sc...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1021 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness for tabling this amendment. I realise this is of great importance for a n...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1022 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that response, which at least confirms that the Government will proceed wit...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1022-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 129B:
129B: After Clause 88, insert the following new Clause—
““Ineligibility
...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1022 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister help me with the meaning of ““in due course””?
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1022 (Link to this contribution)
I repeat what I said. We are committed to introducing these new arrangements in regulations in due c...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1024-5 (Link to this contribution)
I had a good discussion with the people at BrightonRock, who were kind enough to explain things. The...
Lord James of Blackheath | 703 c1025-6 (Link to this contribution)
Before making my only intervention in this debate, I declare, first, my interest as chairman designa...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1024 (Link to this contribution)
I found the noble Baroness’s speech very interesting. In talking over the proposals of Con Keating o...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1024 (Link to this contribution)
There are two answers to that. The Financial Services Authority or an equivalent EU supervisory body...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1026 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the noble Lord will not take this the wrong way, but is he quite sure that his speech an...
Lord James of Blackheath | 703 c1026 (Link to this contribution)
I shall seek direction on that, but my concern is the challenge to whether this would be useful in t...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c978-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 126:
126: After Clause 88, insert the following new Clause—
““Equality of annu...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c977-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Mov...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c979-81 (Link to this contribution)
I support very much the amendment moved so ably by the noble Baroness, Lady Howe. Most of us know th...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1015 (Link to this contribution)
And growth. I hang on to the point that the range of tax benefits going into pension savings—deducti...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1015 (Link to this contribution)
There is a big ““if”” about whether you could effectively describe the sort of regime that would cov...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1015 (Link to this contribution)
With all this talk of tax, I cannot resist getting up to the Dispatch Box.
Does the Minister accept...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
Because of its tax impact, I do not see the merits of building on this proposal. With the exception ...
Lord Fowler | 703 c1015 (Link to this contribution)
I was looking askance because I was wondering, while I listened to the Minister’s defence, whether t...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
It depends on which taxpayer is involved and whether he is getting tax relief on contributions at th...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may help my noble friend. When I was in the department, I argued for changes in this area ...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may say a brief word as one of those who the noble Lord said had been silent on this issue...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
At that time, they were almost entirely higher-rate taxpayers because they were the only ones who po...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1016 (Link to this contribution)
If someone had a pot of a couple of million pounds and was seeking not to annuitise it, the tax elem...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1012-3 (Link to this contribution)
If the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, tabled a subsequent set of amendments to cover the point about tax pri...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1012 (Link to this contribution)
In answer to the first point, I do not believe that the amendment will do what the noble Lord descri...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c1012 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is moving into rather technical issues that demonstrate what I said previously: he and ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, ISAs have tax relief, but not the same as provided through pension saving. That is an absolu...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
So why did the Government invoke the issue of privilege last year when we won the vote in this House...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
It is not my job to investigate the tax effects of these propositions. The noble Lord said that we a...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1014 (Link to this contribution)
What matters is not 3 per cent of the total but what the percentage is of those who have to annuitis...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1013-4 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think so. The nature of the regime that would have to be established, particularly given th...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution)
Precisely for that reason—taxation, as noble Lords know, is an issue not for this House but for the ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 703 c1007-8 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know whether the noble Lord will press the amendment to a vote, but I would not support him...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1006-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is true; I first observed it then. Since then the issue has arisen from time to time, not least i...
Lord Fowler | 703 c1009-10 (Link to this contribution)
As I understand it, the noble Lord is not in favour of the measure because he does not like the idea...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution)
It may be that we are all eating our own words tonight. The noble Baroness gave an interesting speec...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c1003-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 127:
127: After Clause 88, insert the following new Clause—
““Minimum retireme...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1006 (Link to this contribution)
My name is coupled with that of my noble friend Lord Hunt of Wirral on these amendments. I congratul...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 703 c1010 (Link to this contribution)
I have been listening to the debate with great interest, and of course support everything said about...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1011 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord is worried about drawdown of tax relief savings. Do not ISAs, for example, have incre...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c983-4 (Link to this contribution)
Even smoking, of which I am guilty, and of which a noble Lord on the Front Bench opposite has been g...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c983 (Link to this contribution)
I find this amendment, introduced so ably by the noble Baroness, Lady Howe of Idlicote, a little str...
Lord Wright of Richmond | 703 c983 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to add to the tributes to the noble Baroness, Lady Howe of Idlicote, for her persevera...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 703 c982-3 (Link to this contribution)
I rise with the words of my noble friend Lady Thomas ringing in my ears: ““Say something nice, won’t...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c981-2 (Link to this contribution)
I declare my interest, which is in the register of interests, as a partner in the national commercia...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c986 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to noble Lords who have supported my attempt to have the whole issue looked at on...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c986 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 703 c984 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment and commend the noble Baroness for introducing it. I have listened carefully...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c984-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, for the amendment. Like others, I pay tribute to her persiste...
Lord Skelmersdale | 703 c1075-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EV:
130EV: After Clause 106, insert the following new Clause—
““Calculation...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1067-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EM:
130EM: Before Clause 105, insert the following new Clause—
““Charges in...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1066 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 130EA to 130EG:
130EA: Schedule 6, page 89, line 38, leave out from ““which”...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1029-31 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZZA:
130ZZA: Clause 89, page 43, line 36, leave out ““uprated”” and insert ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c1018-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the Minister for taking so long to explain the Government’s position. He said ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c1019 (Link to this contribution)
I have no wish to make a comment on the voiceless clunking fist, except to say: what more could I as...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that the issue has a long history in your Lordships’ House, certainly longer than I hav...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1041-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130ZB:
130ZB: Clause 93, page 46, line 23, leave out subsection (2)
The noble...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1048 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130BAA:
130BAA: Clause 94, page 46, line 43, after ““section”” insert ““—
““th...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 703 c1068-70 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130EP:
130EP: Schedule 7, page 94, line 12, at end insert—
““ After paragraph ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 703 c1019-20 (Link to this contribution)
In our hour of need, as the noble Baroness says. I sense that the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis of Hei...
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