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Housing and Regeneration Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 19 May 2008, in the House of Lords.
Housing and Regeneration Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clause 2 under consideration. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
701 c427-82GC 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Related items
Housing and Regeneration Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 47-EN also published.
Tuesday, 1 April 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Ford | 701 c466-7GC (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith. He is so surprised because I keep agreeing with him. I s...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c451GC (Link to this contribution) I add the support of these Benches to the points powerfully made by the noble Earl. It has often see...

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Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c472GC (Link to this contribution) The short answer to that, in the language in which the noble Lord has put it, is no. Anyway, I do no...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c477GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 26: 26: Clause 2, page 2, line 3, at end insert ““or different areas of Englan...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c476GC (Link to this contribution) I have no difficulty with what the noble Baroness said. The real difficulty is: projected to be livi...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 701 c482GC (Link to this contribution) It may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Tuesday 3 June at 3.30 pm.
Baroness Andrews | 701 c436GC (Link to this contribution) I will certainly do that. I would be happy for the noble Earl to meet Peter Roberts, who heads up th...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c436GC (Link to this contribution) As always, ministerial responsibility lies with the Ministers responsible, and there is no evasion o...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c433GC (Link to this contribution) There is an interesting thing about this. What happens if the objectives are not achieved? A duty is...
Baroness Ford | 701 c433-4GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may seek clarification. In terms of the agency’s contribution to house building, we are lo...
Viscount Eccles | 701 c433GC (Link to this contribution) I have just one other question. I may be misunderstanding things, but I thought that the agency was ...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c434GC (Link to this contribution) I am not in any way suggesting that it necessarily will fail. The noble Baroness was obviously a sup...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c428-9GC (Link to this contribution) I was going to invite the noble Lord to withdraw the amendment. I shall make my response very short...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c430GC (Link to this contribution) I said that there were no fewer powers, when the noble Viscount asked me a direct question. When we ...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c443GC (Link to this contribution) It is still a very long time just to take out your ruler and say that the door should be that much w...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c444-5GC (Link to this contribution) I appreciate what the noble Earl says and point him to the many conversations we have had with the h...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c443GC (Link to this contribution) Surely, if it is a question of doing sensible things such as widening doorways, not having slopes, a...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c440GC (Link to this contribution) I shall think of Don Corleone in a slightly different light after that. I shall speak about this sub...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c438-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 17: 17: Clause 2, page 1, line 11, after ““supply”” insert ““, accessibility””...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 701 c450GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, and I will confess my ignorance and say that I am no...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c449-50GC (Link to this contribution) There is one other thing from the Joint Committee on Human Rights. It became apparent that a disprop...
Baroness Meacher | 701 c448GC (Link to this contribution) I had not planned to speak in this debate, but I want to express my strong support for the amendment...
Earl of Listowel | 701 c446-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 20: 20: Clause 2, page 1, line 15, after ““well-being,”” insert— ““( ) to supp...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c445GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all those who have taken part in this debate. It has been an extremely useful and f...
Lord Greaves | 701 c464-5GC (Link to this contribution) Again, I am astonished by the debate that I set off quite a long time ago now, given our break for a...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 701 c470-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith, for moving the amendment, but I am sure he will n...
Baroness Byford | 701 c469-70GC (Link to this contribution) It is always a mistake to wait until the noble Baroness, Lady Dean, has spoken because she picked up...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 701 c472GC (Link to this contribution) I will clarify, if it helps. The expectation of the Homes and Communities Agency was to deliver 70,0...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c472GC (Link to this contribution) We had better not pursue this arithmetic question much further. I simply thought that I could not le...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c459-60GC (Link to this contribution) Rather pessimistically, I think that the problem we are discussing is almost insoluble. We all know ...
Baroness Ford | 701 c460-1GC (Link to this contribution) The agency is intended to carry over some of the ways of operating from the previous organisations. ...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 701 c479GC (Link to this contribution) The simple point I want to make is that the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. When everyon...
Baroness Byford | 701 c480GC (Link to this contribution) I have a question following on from the noble Baroness’s amendment regarding the financial implicati...
Lord Greaves | 701 c477-8GC (Link to this contribution) I will add one or two points. First, when we met last week, the Minister said that there would be re...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c481GC (Link to this contribution) The regional housing pot breaks down into an element for affordable housing, an element for the priv...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c481-2GC (Link to this contribution) This has been very helpful. Although I introduced the amendment briefly, I was aware of how central ...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 701 c472GC (Link to this contribution) Could the noble Lord assist me? My understanding is that a house is owned by a local community and r...
Baroness Fookes | 701 c482GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until Tuesday 3 June at 3.30 pm.
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c427GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: Clause 2, page 1, line 10, leave out ““objects”” and insert ““objectiv...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 701 c427GC (Link to this contribution) I believe that a Division will be called in the House shortly. The Committee will adjourn as soon as...
Earl of Listowel | 701 c432-3GC (Link to this contribution) I have a question about a detail in the noble Baroness’s helpful reply. She referred to the academy ...
Lord Greaves | 701 c430-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: 16: Clause 2, page 1, line 11, leave out ““improve the supply and”” and in...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c428GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that response; I had never thought of it as being a high level term. I hope that I...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c428GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15: 15: Clause 2, page 1, line 11, leave out ““improve”” and insert ““assist i...
Viscount Eccles | 701 c429GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister used the phrase ““no fewer powers”” than the previous legislation. Does that encompass ...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c429GC (Link to this contribution) No. There are modest expansions of the powers, because the objectives, or objects, of the HCA are sl...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c430GC (Link to this contribution) Is it actually right for Ministers to say ““fewer powers”” and later, when pressed, to say that they...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c430GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I am sorry for the earlier confusion; I should perhaps have che...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c440GC (Link to this contribution) It is incredibly important that accessibility is built into all new houses, and I strongly support t...
Lord Best | 701 c439-40GC (Link to this contribution) I have to rise to my feet whenever lifetime homes are mentioned. I declare my past interest as a god...
Earl of Listowel | 701 c436GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her helpful and encouraging answer with regard to the Academy for Sustainab...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c434-5GC (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to intervene, but we are raking over old coals, if one can put it that way, to a certain ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c450-1GC (Link to this contribution) It is very easy to follow my noble friend Lord Brooke. The figure that I have is that 27 per cent of...
Lord Best | 701 c449GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lord Listowel and thank him for and congratulate him on years of hard work...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c446GC (Link to this contribution) Quite so. This is the nature of politics and we all need to remember what goes on. One of the things...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c465-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23: 23: Clause 2, page 2, line 2, at end insert— ““( ) to support a proportion...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 701 c467-8GC (Link to this contribution) I take very much what has just been said about the decisions to operate the current provisions on so...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c451-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that we have had an opportunity to debate this issue. Like other noble Lords, I pay tr...
Lord Haskel | 701 c458GC (Link to this contribution) A Division has been called. The Committee stands adjourned for 10 minutes. [The Sitting was suspend...
Lord Mawson | 701 c455-8GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment No. 23A, which is in my name and is part of the group. It is a probing am...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c461-4GC (Link to this contribution) I have discovered the problem with the Bill: it is too interesting. Our debates are too interesting....
Baroness Andrews | 701 c480-1GC (Link to this contribution) This debate followed seamlessly from the previous one on community needs. I said at Second Reading t...
Lord Greaves | 701 c477GC (Link to this contribution) I thought that my noble friend was going to say Burnley.
Lord Greaves | 701 c481GC (Link to this contribution) I have one more question, which the Minister might want to incorporate in this treatise that we will...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c476GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 25: 25: Clause 2, page 2, line 3, after ““living”” insert ““or projected to be...
Lord Greaves | 701 c472-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24: 24: Clause 2, page 2, line 3, after ““needs”” insert ““and aspirations”” ...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c431-2GC (Link to this contribution) Those are important questions. I shall say a few words about the state of the housing market. Under ...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 701 c430GC (Link to this contribution) If Amendment No. 16 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No. 17, due to pre-emption.
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 701 c433GC (Link to this contribution) I should say immediately that my motivation is guided by semantics and not by mischief-making. The M...
Baroness Ford | 701 c434GC (Link to this contribution) I think that it is a reasonable question. I was merely saying that we on these Benches do not have m...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 701 c427-8GC (Link to this contribution) I think that we can dispose of this item fairly quickly. The noble Baroness is being picky with a po...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 701 c428GC (Link to this contribution) If this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No. 16.
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 701 c442GC (Link to this contribution) My question here will be just as simple as the one I asked on the previous occasion. One of the bonu...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c442-3GC (Link to this contribution) We have had a good debate on a very important subject that is dear to my heart for reasons that will...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 701 c441GC (Link to this contribution) I am glad that I am in a Committee with the noble Lord, Lord Best, and my noble friend Lady Dean. Co...
Lord Best | 701 c440GC (Link to this contribution) Thank you very much. Giving the Homes and Communities Agency a special role in this regard is a good...
Lord Greaves | 701 c436-7GC (Link to this contribution) This innocuous little amendment has led to more debate than I had expected—perhaps more than the Min...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c435-6GC (Link to this contribution) Members of the Committee raised some profound questions in that short debate. I start by answering t...
Earl of Onslow | 701 c436GC (Link to this contribution) There is one question unanswered. How does ministerial responsibility come into this? I understand e...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 701 c448-9GC (Link to this contribution) I was extremely interested in what the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, said. I happen to be a patron of a...
Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde | 701 c468-9GC (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to intervene, but I support the idea behind the amendment. When I was chairman of...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 701 c471-2GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that reply. I recognise where the noble Lord, Lord Graham, is comi...
Earl of Listowel | 701 c454GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her full, generous and encouraging reply. I also thank noble Lords who took...
Lord Greaves | 701 c454-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22: 22: Clause 2, page 2, line 2, at end insert— ““( ) to contribute to the re...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 701 c458-9GC (Link to this contribution) I will make a brief speech. It is born out of having represented a constituency which the European U...
Baroness Ford | 701 c478-9GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, has raised two fundamental issues. When we undertook the consultation ...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c477GC (Link to this contribution) All right, Burnley. Life is different in Tower Hamlets from how it is in Kingston. England is not ho...
Lord Greaves | 701 c476GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Baroness Andrews | 701 c474-5GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that I can respond swiftly to this. The noble Lord is right in many respects. We all aspire t...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c477GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that. I particularly mentioned immigration because this country should welcome it,...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c476-7GC (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the noble Baroness seeks clarification of the definition of future needs, and I ...
Baroness Hamwee | 701 c482GC (Link to this contribution) I therefore find it odd that that Clause 322 states that the, "““Act extends to England and Wales””,...
Baroness Andrews | 701 c482GC (Link to this contribution) Housing is devolved. Parts of Part 3 apply to Wales, so when we come to Part 3, we will have the deb...
Subjects
Access
Disability
Children
Children in care
Disadvantaged
Community development
Construction
Building regulations
Housing estates
Poverty
Older people
Prices
Owner occupation
Private rented housing
Standards
Young people
Social rented housing
Regeneration
Homes and Communities Agency
Legislation
Housing and Regeneration Bill 2007-08
Contains statistics
Yes
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