European Union (Amendment) Bill. Lords Committee stage first day. Part 2 of 2 records.
European Union (Amendment) Bill
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
and
Debate on bills on Tuesday, 22 April 2008,
in the House of Lords.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
700 c1471-96 
Session
2007-08
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
European Union (Amendment) Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 40-EN also published.
Wednesday, 12 March 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Wednesday, 12 March 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Kinnock | 700 c1483-4 (Link to this contribution)
Although the hour is late, I wish to say to the noble Lord that it would not be possible for 27 demo...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1483 (Link to this contribution)
I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. The noble Lord, Lord Jay, praised the c...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c1481-3 (Link to this contribution)
This is another interesting debate. I shall add my pennyworth to the issue of procedure. I am in the...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 700 c1480-1 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that that was what the noble Lord thought he was saying, but I made exactly those point...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 700 c1479-80 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not get involved in the substance of the amendment and shall not support it. I will keep my ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 700 c1479 (Link to this contribution)
I read all the newspapers. That is why I have such a broad mind. In any event, the article was proba...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
As a matter of fact, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Kinnock. If he had read the UK Independen...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Lord for that eloquent exposition of the problem. I must put it to h...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1476 (Link to this contribution)
I must respond to the point about prejudice. We are dealing not with prejudice but with reasoned opp...
Lord Tomlinson | 700 c1475 (Link to this contribution)
I think that my noble friend Lord Lea is too gentle on the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, in trying to ha...
Lord Dykes | 700 c1476-8 (Link to this contribution)
Inspired by the very sagacious, although brief, contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Jay, perhaps th...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 700 c1476 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that Members of the Committee will forgive me if I focus on the amendment before us. I oppose...
Lord Blackwell | 700 c1475 (Link to this contribution)
We really cannot have a sensible debate on the treaty if we take the view that any amendment that at...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 700 c1474 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, is confirming my contention that right through the next thr...
Lord Sewel | 700 c1478 (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble Lord accept that if gross national income or GDP increase in those regions that are l...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 700 c1478-9 (Link to this contribution)
If that were the case I would be happy, but unfortunately the deficit in trade in the past 35 years ...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 700 c1489 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I think that is the case. I stress that, while we may not always be satisfied with the way in w...
Lord Radice | 700 c1489 (Link to this contribution)
Does not the European Court of Justice also have to take account of that principle of subsidiarity a...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 700 c1488 (Link to this contribution)
More in sorrow than in anger, I come to this amendment. I am, frankly, surprised that the noble Lord...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1488 (Link to this contribution)
I was about to try to be nice to Mr Major. I simply say to my noble friend Lord Forsyth that I think...
Baroness Ludford | 700 c1490-1 (Link to this contribution)
I start by seconding what the noble Lord, Lord Tomlinson, said about John Major and Strasbourg, as s...
Lord Tomlinson | 700 c1489-90 (Link to this contribution)
I say more in sorrow than in anger to my noble friend the Leader of the House that if ever she sends...
Earl Ferrers | 700 c1489 (Link to this contribution)
Will the noble Lord be good enough to repeat that, because some of us Sassenachs do not quite unders...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 700 c1491-2 (Link to this contribution)
I state instantly that I rise purely out of self-interest. I did not speak at Second Reading. I list...
Lord Kinnock | 700 c1487-8 (Link to this contribution)
I will happily intervene to reflect upon the opt-out from the single currency. Witness the exchange ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 6:
6: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert—
““(i) Article 1, ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1485 (Link to this contribution)
By the time the noble Baroness comes back I will have finished. This amendment simply would remove t...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
Would the noble Lord like us to get them for him?
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1485-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful to the Government for producing my notes, but I am too far down the gangplan...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c1485 (Link to this contribution)
I rise just to tell the noble Lord that his notes have arrived.
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1487 (Link to this contribution)
I was not around at the time. All I can say is that the Prime Minister of the day wrote this letter,...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 700 c1487 (Link to this contribution)
Before he continues with his autobiography, does the noble Lord accept that the working time directi...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1487 (Link to this contribution)
I will do my best to be more generous. Does the noble Lord, Lord Kinnock, have something to say from...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 700 c1495 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister deal with one point made by the noble Lord, which is about the role of the European...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c1495-6 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot comment on the specifics of the working-time directive, because I do not have the details a...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1496 (Link to this contribution)
I think it is normal for the mover of an amendment to reply at the end of the Minister’s response, a...
Lord Bach | 700 c1496 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the challenge that has been laid down. Unfortunately, I cannot think of any litera...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
I thought that I had made it clear that I was not able to use them.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c1493-5 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not prolong this as the hour is late and noble Lords wish to go. I shall of course ensure th...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 700 c1492 (Link to this contribution)
I was interested in what the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford, and the noble Lord, Lord Williamson, said...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1471-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:
5: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert—
““(i) Article 1, ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1472 (Link to this contribution)
Well, we will see. It depends on what it says. But under the strict terms of this amendment—I know t...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 700 c1474 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord; I will just answer that point. He is not quite right. Our purpose i...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 700 c1472-3 (Link to this contribution)
I support my noble friend’s amendment. I shall read out one or two quotations but I am sure that the...
Lord Radice | 700 c1473 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord quoted accurately from our report. I am glad that he approved of it. However, it is a...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 700 c1473-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that intervention. It may be more complicated, but the real issue is whether it sh...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 700 c1474 (Link to this contribution)
In response to the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, this is the first of a number of amendments which propo...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 700 c1480 (Link to this contribution)
I shall return the compliment and say that, generally speaking, I admire the attitude of the noble L...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 700 c1487 (Link to this contribution)
I was around at the time and I was sent to the European Social Council meetings to delay implementat...
Lord Kinnock | 700 c1484 (Link to this contribution)
Is the noble Lord saying that he wants to replace determination by the Executive nationally and inte...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 700 c1478 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I can get a word in now. I tried to intervene on the dispute that arose about the way in whi...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 700 c1489 (Link to this contribution)
The phrase ““he has the mulligrubs”” means that he continues to grumble and grumble and grumble, whi...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 700 c1492-3 (Link to this contribution)
I oppose this amendment. Listening to the noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, I was reminded of the...
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