Draft SI on Payments into the Olympic Lottery Distribution Fund etc. Debate on motion to approve. Agreed to on division (357 to 9).
National Lottery
Legislative debate on Tuesday, 15 January 2008,
in the House of Commons,
led by James Purnell.
The answering
member was Jeremy Hunt.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
470 c809-38 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Payments into the Olympic Lottery Distribution Fund etc Order 2008
Thursday, 25 October 2007
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Thursday, 25 October 2007
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Adam Price | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
Liverpool is, of course, the unofficial capital of north Wales.
How can the Secretary of State just...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
I intervene on the Secretary of State merely to strengthen his hand. Should events not turn out as h...
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James Purnell | 470 c811 (Link to this contribution)
I shall make some progress and then answer the hon. Gentleman's question when I come to that point i...
James Purnell | 470 c810-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for Bath (Mr. Foster), who has also raised this complex issue—he did so at the previ...
James Purnell | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad the that hon. Gentleman thinks that Liverpool is the unofficial capital of north Wales—the...
John Grogan | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
Given this diversion of resources—I say this as a strong supporter of the Olympics—is there not a ca...
Anne Snelgrove | 470 c809-10 (Link to this contribution)
That is a diversion of funds from the national lottery to the Olympics, and while the Olympics is an...
James Purnell | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point, which has also been made by a number of stakeholders, inclu...
James Purnell | 470 c809 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That the draft Payments into the Olympic Lottery Distribution Fund etc. Order 2007, w...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
I did promise, so I will give way to the hon. Lady.
Anne Snelgrove | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman acknowledge that Members from across the House have grave concerns about goo...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
It is because we recognise the importance of the Olympics and good causes that we are trying to find...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my hon. Friend, but his will be the final intervention.
Mark Field | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend. Anyone who has listened to this debate for the past 20 minutes will have bee...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c822-3 (Link to this contribution)
As ever, my hon. Friend has made an excellent point. I think that he is really saying that if the lo...
Lord Foster of Bath | 470 c823 (Link to this contribution)
It has not been a good Olympic day for me; unfortunately, the British Olympic Association decided th...
Lord Foster of Bath | 470 c823 (Link to this contribution)
I happily give way to the hon. Gentleman.
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c820 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to trade statistics with the Secretary of State any time, and I am happy to confirm the f...
Lord Swire | 470 c820 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend will well remember when the former Minister for Sport, the right hon. Member for Shef...
James Purnell | 470 c820 (Link to this contribution)
Let me save the hon. Gentleman from having to correct the record himself. The combined grant in aid ...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c821-2 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point.
In conclusion,"““We don't believe it would be right to...
Mark Field | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c820-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his comments, which are extremely well put.
If the Secretary of...
Pete Wishart | 470 c821 (Link to this contribution)
It is worse than that for us in Scotland. We are holding the Commonwealth games in 2014, but SportSc...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
I shall make progress if I may; I am just drawing to a close.
Anne Snelgrove | 470 c822 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Diane Abbott | 470 c818 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c818 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to make a little more progress; I will give way later.
We fought hard for the concessi...
James Purnell | 470 c818 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to proceed on the basis of cross-party consensus. I am sorry for the tone that the hon. G...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c818 (Link to this contribution)
With respect, that is exactly what I want to do. I am just saying that if the Secretary of State was...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c817-8 (Link to this contribution)
They have been in the public domain for quite some time. The Mayor said that a month after the budge...
Anne Snelgrove | 470 c818 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c819 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to do so. We must have been speaking to different people at Camelot; my office had a ...
Lord Foster of Bath | 470 c819 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman could help me and the House by confirming what he has just said....
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c819-20 (Link to this contribution)
I suggest that the Secretary of State do the math, as they say in the United States. If one adds up ...
Michael Fabricant | 470 c816-7 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is quite right in what he has just said. He is also right to say that none of us shou...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c817 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an extremely important point—he is absolutely right. I shall talk later about t...
James Purnell | 470 c816 (Link to this contribution)
I can tell the hon. Gentleman that that information is available, and that my right hon. Friend the ...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c816 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful for that concession, as it will greatly improve our ability to scrutinise the pro...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c815-6 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point. I was about to say that the spirit of cross-party support h...
James Purnell | 470 c817 (Link to this contribution)
What I am saying is that there is nothing new about the Government information and the Mayor's infor...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c817 (Link to this contribution)
May I make a little more progress before giving way to the hon. Lady?
What the Secretary of State s...
Anne Snelgrove | 470 c817 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c817 (Link to this contribution)
We are saying, ““Enough is enough””, which is why we said that if there are further problems with th...
Mike Weir | 470 c817 (Link to this contribution)
Earlier, the hon. Gentleman rightly mentioned that the cost of the Olympics has already tripled. He ...
Speaker | 470 c813 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I remind the House that short interventions are good at all times, but especially when we...
Robert Key | 470 c813 (Link to this contribution)
While the Secretary of State is talking about existing commitments being cancelled, can I remind him...
Greg Clark | 470 c814 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State seems to be unaware that among the other good causes, including heritage orga...
James Purnell | 470 c813-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has been a resolute campaigner for Stonehenge, and he makes his point clearly and...
James Purnell | 470 c814 (Link to this contribution)
So is the hon. Gentleman saying that the Conservative party would not stick to the £2 billion guaran...
Mark Field | 470 c814 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State give way?
James Purnell | 470 c814-5 (Link to this contribution)
No, I know that time is limited and I want to wind up.
In the original funding package, the lottery...
Jeremy Hunt | 470 c815 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the best example of the Olympic spirit was shown by someone who never competed in the Olympi...
Baroness Hoey | 470 c811 (Link to this contribution)
The explanatory memorandum helpfully gives details of the net effect of the order on each distributo...
Lord Swire | 470 c811 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State clarify what he has just said? Has he said that as well as trying to ann...
James Purnell | 470 c812 (Link to this contribution)
We have the same goal, which is to repay the lottery from the increase in land values. The amount is...
Paul Farrelly | 470 c812 (Link to this contribution)
I share the concern about the additional raid on the national lottery money, but I recognise that th...
James Purnell | 470 c811-2 (Link to this contribution)
I shall come to that matter later in my speech. An impact assessment has been published to accompany...
Mark Field | 470 c812 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State suggests that the Olympic budget somehow remains intact, but the public at la...
James Purnell | 470 c813 (Link to this contribution)
The other lottery distributors will operate at arm's length and make their decisions. They do fund v...
James Purnell | 470 c812-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is a matter for the Mayor and the LDA. We have a high level of confidence in the LDA's ability,...
Greg Clark | 470 c813 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State has made a commitment on the Big Lottery Fund. Does that commitment extend to...
Hugh Robertson | 470 c832-4 (Link to this contribution)
I think it fair to say that the Olympics remain the world's greatest sporting event, and an importan...
Barry Gardiner | 470 c834 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend says that the SNP has been consistent, but does she recall that on 6 June 2005 ...
Baroness Jowell | 470 c834 (Link to this contribution)
This has been a good debate, with a frank airing of views from all parts of the Chamber. At least th...
Baroness Jowell | 470 c834-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend's excellent research has probably found a sotto voce endorsement by the SNP. However,...
Pete Wishart | 470 c830 (Link to this contribution)
Let me get started. I have a long way to go yet.
This project is in need of a performance-enhancing...
Pete Wishart | 470 c831-2 (Link to this contribution)
As always, my hon. Friend makes a very powerful point. There are many creative solutions. London is ...
Adam Price | 470 c831 (Link to this contribution)
I have an alternative funding proposal. Why not slap a windfall tax on the bonuses about to be sent ...
Pete Wishart | 470 c831 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that intervention because, as the hon. Gentleman knows, we have debated the issue ...
Andy Reed | 470 c831 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman knows, we spent many an hour in Westminster Hall and elsewhere debating this i...
Pete Wishart | 470 c830-1 (Link to this contribution)
I wish I had not bothered giving way to the hon. Gentleman, which is all I can say about that contri...
Barry Gardiner | 470 c830 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman talks about the monumental fiasco of the Olympics, but will he enlighten us about...
Pete Wishart | 470 c830 (Link to this contribution)
That is the kind of question that I, too, am asked. The Secretary of State sits there laughing as he...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 470 c830 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend aware that, in the Outer Hebrides, my constituency alone will lose about £1 millio...
Pete Wishart | 470 c829 (Link to this contribution)
If there were a gold medal for the mismanagement and botching of a large infrastructure project, it ...
Andy Reed | 470 c823 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. As the hon. Gentleman knows, if Aldershot had not been chosen, Loughborough would hav...
Lord Foster of Bath | 470 c825-7 (Link to this contribution)
In my contribution, which I hope to continue for a brief period, I shall make some proposals as to h...
Mike Weir | 470 c824 (Link to this contribution)
I pose to the hon. Gentleman the question that I posed to the Conservative Front-Bench spokesman. Gi...
John Whittingdale | 470 c827-9 (Link to this contribution)
I will do my best to keep my remarks brief. As so often, it is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member ...
Adam Price | 470 c824 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has eloquently demonstrated why the so-called major parties, as he dubs them, wer...
Lord Foster of Bath | 470 c823-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. I continue to be a keen supporter of the Olympics becau...
Lord Foster of Bath | 470 c824 (Link to this contribution)
The honest truth is that we have to take people at their word and look at as much evidence as possib...
James Purnell | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
Actually, that is not correct: we found £11.2 million, I think, which is more than we were required ...
James Purnell | 470 c819 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that that was said before a 170 per cent. increase in the Sport England budget, a sevenf...
Edward Leigh | 470 c815 (Link to this contribution)
How was it in the Olympic spirit—or even decent—for the Government to pull the wool over the public'...
James Purnell | 470 c811 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises the point of the tax regime for the lottery. Some people, including Camelo...
James Purnell | 470 c810 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure they are looking forward to it in Wales as well.
Speaker | 470 c827 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Hon. Members are making it difficult for the Chair because they did not notify Mr. Speaker th...
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